(11-21-2014 09:52 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:40 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:37 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Basketball might keep us out.

Basketball is childs play to these people

Yep. Basketball doesn't count. Ask Kansas.

I imagine basketball counts about 15%. As for football, attendance and travel reputation probably count as much as winning. That's where WE come in! Very important for our fans to understand that and act accordingly.

That is where WE come in but the Big XII must know their brand well enough to know that if OK, TX, Baylor, TCU are coming into the Liberty Bowl for conference games that the crowds are going to be significantly better than now. They have to have that confidence in themselves.

Recruiting is fluid.

(11-21-2014 02:07 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I find it odd that I live in Dallas Metro, listen to talk shows, read the papers and blogs and the only place I ever hear Memphis mentioned as a possible addition to the Big XII is from Memphis.

I have neighbors that are TCU, Baylor, Texas and Tech fans. We gather to watch ball games, parties etc....they are oblivious to any news that Memphis is even being discussed, by anyone anywhere as a possible future member. It has become my running joke with them.

I do hope it is true, it would be awesome to be able to make four or five "road" games a year in the Big XII.

Baylor message board, discussing Memphis to the B12. A good bit of it is positive:

http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthr...p?t=284211

NBCSports article, citing T. Boone Pickens saying he is being told the B12 needs to add two teams, and saying Memphis wants in:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-cowboys/

There are at least a couple others from the B12 or from the media outside Memphis, that I have read recently.

(11-21-2014 10:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 07:42 PM)83msu Wrote:  in the possible expansion of the B12 ...Cen. F, So.F, BYU, even Marshall got a mention in columns. If we don't move, it will be done for the athletic dept. and our school. I hate what has and is happening to college sports from the constant shifting to the incredible cheating.

And Triple A called me out in another thread saying there was no recent mention of USF & UCF....

All of these blogs and stories are based on opinions and not actually who has been talked to by the league. Geography matters.

(11-21-2014 04:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Baylor message board, discussing Memphis to the B12. A good bit of it is positive:

http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthr...p?t=284211

NBCSports article, citing T. Boone Pickens saying he is being told the B12 needs to add two teams, and saying Memphis wants in:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-cowboys/

There are at least a couple others from the B12 or from the media outside Memphis, that I have read recently.

That's great news--Memphis got a pretty good response on that board. I don't really understand the knocks though on the Liberty Bowl stadium--I guess most there don't know it's been renovated, but even then most didn't think that was much of a big deal.

Yeah, I know it's only a message board, but still nice.

(11-21-2014 04:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:07 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I find it odd that I live in Dallas Metro, listen to talk shows, read the papers and blogs and the only place I ever hear Memphis mentioned as a possible addition to the Big XII is from Memphis.

I have neighbors that are TCU, Baylor, Texas and Tech fans. We gather to watch ball games, parties etc....they are oblivious to any news that Memphis is even being discussed, by anyone anywhere as a possible future member. It has become my running joke with them.

I do hope it is true, it would be awesome to be able to make four or five "road" games a year in the Big XII.

Baylor message board, discussing Memphis to the B12. A good bit of it is positive:

http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthr...p?t=284211

NBCSports article, citing T. Boone Pickens saying he is being told the B12 needs to add two teams, and saying Memphis wants in:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-cowboys/

There are at least a couple others from the B12 or from the media outside Memphis, that I have read recently.

Interesting, thanks for the link.

(11-21-2014 04:54 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 04:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Baylor message board, discussing Memphis to the B12. A good bit of it is positive:

http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthr...p?t=284211

NBCSports article, citing T. Boone Pickens saying he is being told the B12 needs to add two teams, and saying Memphis wants in:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-cowboys/

There are at least a couple others from the B12 or from the media outside Memphis, that I have read recently.

That's great news--Memphis got a pretty good response on that board. I don't really understand the knocks though on the Liberty Bowl stadium--I guess most there don't know it's been renovated, but even then most didn't think that was much of a big deal.

Yeah, I know it's only a message board, but still nice.

Those knocks about the LB are a little strange coming from someone who wouldn't have to buy tickets there. But it seems like everyone is looking for club seating, loges and more suites than the current Liberty Bowl configuration offers, for Memphis to have credibility

TCU basically reconfigured their stadium a few years ago and it really looks good now, and they did it without really changing the original architecture of the stadium.

I'm pretty sure most of those Baylor fans have never been to the LB and have just seen pics, probably when the barns were still there. Or they heard stories. I'd say that's typical. But in any formal talks, you can bet that isn't an issue.

I thought they were pretty positive about the possibility of Memphis. Surprising, actually. It's amazing what one good football season does for outside perceptions.

(11-21-2014 10:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 07:42 PM)83msu Wrote:  in the possible expansion of the B12 ...Cen. F, So.F, BYU, even Marshall got a mention in columns. If we don't move, it will be done for the athletic dept. and our school. I hate what has and is happening to college sports from the constant shifting to the incredible cheating.

And Triple A called me out in another thread saying there was no recent mention of USF & UCF....

I honestly don't recall that exchange. I post a lot on 4 boards, so it's hard to recall every detail. There have been PLENTY of mentions of USF and UCF to the B12, all over message boards and in newspaper articles. They are practically non-stop. If I said that, it was a mistake.

Maybe I had a senior moment. Maybe you misunderstood my post. Or perhaps, it was when I was discussing earlier talks with the B12 that happened about a year ago. I do recall saying that in those talks, there was no mention of USF or UCF, as far as anybody at Memphis was told. But I was talking about those talks specifically, not the media or message boards.

The schools talking then were Memphis, UC, UH and SMU. No USF, UCF, UConn or ECU. No BYU, either.

The Big12 is going to expand, their current debacle with TCU and Baylor will force their hand. Imagine if it were UT and OU in this situation. Being left out of the playoff(as it stands today) reinforces the need for a championship game.

Fitz says it's a "moneygrabber"

(11-21-2014 06:57 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  I heard Memphis was going to the Sunbelt, but I bet you won't find that in any "column" either... Call me a liar if you must, but you can't prove I'm wrong either.

Nope we will just call You an idiot

(11-21-2014 06:57 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  I heard Memphis was going to the Sunbelt, but I bet you won't find that in any "column" either... Call me a liar if you must, but you can't prove I'm wrong either.

Damn, I should have used that one on you a few months ago

(11-21-2014 06:31 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  The Big12 is going to expand, their current debacle with TCU and Baylor will force their hand. Imagine if it were UT and OU in this situation. Being left out of the playoff(as it stands today) reinforces the need for a championship game.

They don't need to expand for a championship game.

Why would the SEC, Big Ten, and Pac-12 pass that rule?....ACC wants it and so does 12...Big 12 so they wouldn't have to expand and ACC for insurance in case when the day could come when Big Ten and SEC come after a few more teams for their Networks....They want Big 12 to get to 12 at least as does the Networks....Only way USF and UCF would get in is if they went to 14 which they mightbut again highly unlikely.....Cincy would be 1 with the other still between Memphis/Houston/SMU....SMU and Houston would be out and Memphis would be looking more likely to be the other....Good Basketball for now, Football has arrived and as well as other great things....Geography matters to them somewhat as well...Cincy and Memphis also bring a rivarly built in and both aren't bad travels for WVU, and others could still get to Cincy and Memphis easily....WVU already feels like an outsider, and adding USF and UCF makes it even further....Unless it FSU and Clemson i can't see them going that far....If they expand soon, and i feel they will, and will be fast and swift it will be Cincy and Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....

(11-20-2014 08:44 PM)83msu Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:36 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:28 PM)83msu Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 07:59 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 07:42 PM)83msu Wrote:  in the possible expansion of the B12 ...Cen. F, So.F, BYU, even Marshall got a mention in columns. If we don't move, it will be done for the athletic dept. and our school. I hate what has and is happening to college sports from the constant shifting to the incredible cheating.

The columns? Would that be a newspaper, magazine, blog or a building? Pretty vague reference.

My husband came home and told me he looked at different sites..mentioned Fox sports, went to other schools sites..told me Cincy is recruiting in FB as if they are in. sorry I can't remember where else he told me he looked.

Likely true about Cincinnati. Marshall no way. Probably only going to be 2 schools. Florida is nice but who do you take and who are they close to? BYU is going to stay independent. Boise State isn't the direction (west) that they want to go. Who else is there? Pretty sure the Texas schools are out. We have improved quite a bit in football and facilities. We are also centrally located, in SEC country and be a little closer to WVU. Doesn't mean much but if the Big 12 gets left out of the CFB then the value of having 2 more teams would be there.

I said the same thing about Marshal..but here's the deal. W. Vir has to travel 900 miles at the shortest to play in the conf. Marshall would give them someone closer and 2 teams to play in that area. Fl schools would be about recruiting. http://www.deseretnews.com/.../Teeples-T...y-cant-...
Deseret News
Jul 30, 2014 - Fans and media want the Big 12 to add BYU. But it can't without giving up significant revenue for each school. ( so who knows about that. )

WVU will never allow Marshall to share a conference with them.

(11-21-2014 02:07 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I find it odd that I live in Dallas Metro, listen to talk shows, read the papers and blogs and the only place I ever hear Memphis mentioned as a possible addition to the Big XII is from Memphis.

I have neighbors that are TCU, Baylor, Texas and Tech fans. We gather to watch ball games, parties etc....they are oblivious to any news that Memphis is even being discussed, by anyone anywhere as a possible future member. It has become my running joke with them.

I do hope it is true, it would be awesome to be able to make four or five "road" games a year in the Big XII.

Unfortunately, I'm here in Houston and I have to agree with you. I do occasionally see/read words from some fan forums (Landthieves, BaylorFans, or ShaggyBevo), but, nothing official. I think we're not too much on the radar, which only winning will solve.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a total Memphis homer, and I want us in the Big 12. I think we are just beginning to raise awareness of our program, and need to keep winning. CJF is doing that, and his recruiting in TX is helping, along with his lean towards the spread/fast offense, which is the Big 12 signature. We'll see.

Anyway, Go Tigers Go. I think our team is awesome this year and I totally support them.

(11-21-2014 09:39 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:31 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  The Big12 is going to expand, their current debacle with TCU and Baylor will force their hand. Imagine if it were UT and OU in this situation. Being left out of the playoff(as it stands today) reinforces the need for a championship game.

They don't need to expand for a championship game.

If the conference gets left out of the playoff, the lack of a championship game will be a key factor.

They will need one.

(11-22-2014 01:08 AM)Tiger-n-Bear Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:07 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I find it odd that I live in Dallas Metro, listen to talk shows, read the papers and blogs and the only place I ever hear Memphis mentioned as a possible addition to the Big XII is from Memphis.

I have neighbors that are TCU, Baylor, Texas and Tech fans. We gather to watch ball games, parties etc....they are oblivious to any news that Memphis is even being discussed, by anyone anywhere as a possible future member. It has become my running joke with them.

I do hope it is true, it would be awesome to be able to make four or five "road" games a year in the Big XII.

Unfortunately, I'm here in Houston and I have to agree with you. I do occasionally see/read words from some fan forums (Landthieves, BaylorFans, or ShaggyBevo), but, nothing official. I think we're not too much on the radar, which only winning will solve.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a total Memphis homer, and I want us in the Big 12. I think we are just beginning to raise awareness of our program, and need to keep winning. CJF is doing that, and his recruiting in TX is helping, along with his lean towards the spread/fast offense, which is the Big 12 signature. We'll see.

Anyway, Go Tigers Go. I think our team is awesome this year and I totally support them.

Unfortunately the same for me. Spend most of my time in Texas and Memphis is never thought of as an expansion candidate.

It seems to me that if our athletic department is seriously aiming for Big 12 membership that we would start scheduling a football and basketball game with a Big 12 school every year in order to establish some familiarity and relationships. As of now, we suffer from the "out of sight, out of mind" effect. Would doing so make a huge difference in our chances? Probably not, but every little bit helps and the goal is far too important to leave any stone unturned. Same thing applies to paying attention to details (such as color consistency) which affect brand strength.