(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Yes, Liberty and 5 others.

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I completely understand your reasoning and those are all good reasons to not invite LU. But I do believe those are more your hangups about LU's than most peoples. The real issue with LU is LU is a nobody in FB and Basketball. If I name drop LU in Austin I am pretty sure I'll get blank looks. On the east coast folks know of LU but that's pretty much it. Past that people just assume it's a D2 school or don't realize it exists. LU needs to make the FCS playoffs and beat some more FBS teams. Even then it would take a few seasons of back to back playoff appearances and winning to really get noticed. The last thing I want is for LU to completely strip away who it is and be some sort of Generic Univeristy. Could it mod some of it's more controversial rules and fire a few key people, sure it could and I fully support that. I'm just a fan and don't have the inside scoop to anything this is just my opinion.

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

(09-20-2014 11:52 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

When will some of you get it through your thick skulls. You have every right to believe in what you want. The line is drawn when ACTIVE participation in marginalizing groups of people and condemning them to the fringes of society by students, teachers and especially administration is conducted. The founder as well as several administrative personnel have publicly slandered groups they disagree with as well as help push legislation to marginalize their lives. That is disgraceful and is not in keeping with the New Testament. This should be very evident to any Christian.

That being said, Liberty is basically a nobody in the athletic landscape. You took a good step in playing UNC. You need to have more name recognition and develop a winning tradition that stands out. Making the FCS playoffs goes a long way in helping to establish that.

Your biggest drawback is your history and current participation in making life difficult for those you disagree with. I have no answer for that solution. Frankly, because of your overt bigotry, I have little sympathy for your FBS situation. Also, keep this in mind: being kept out of the SBC is not the same as humiliating and condemning someone publicly because they don't fit your mold.

(09-20-2014 12:37 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:52 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

When will some of you get it through your thick skulls. You have every right to believe in what you want. The line is drawn when ACTIVE participation in marginalizing groups of people and condemning them to the fringes of society by students, teachers and especially administration is conducted.

I disagree with you and Tom. I think Baylor has every right to their religious freedom and core beliefs.

Quote:It is thus expected that Baylor students will not participate in advocacy groups which promote understandings of sexuality that are contrary to biblical teaching.

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

(09-20-2014 11:52 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

ODU BLUE, you make valid points and observations about those whose intense agendas do not allow them to be objective towards Liberty. Tom, Rev and others always turn and hijack all post towards their righteous moral and world views. You likely attended the ODU/LU game last year. LU played Richmond last year and again this year. LU has played JMU and App State in the past and again this year. To those that know, it's just football between teams. None of this constant rhetoric promoted by a select few on this board.

There are gay members on this board, who have publicly stated they are gay, who resent with a passion any mention of LU. There is no middle or acceptance ground. It's their judgmental, righteous, self-proclaimed position that it's either view that is right.

I also hope that LU will at some time in the future become a CUSA member. To those narrow minded posters, who have never attended a LU game, or been on campus, who draw all their beliefs and conclusions from media reports, let them be. I have tried on numerous occasions to dialogue with those anti LU posters. To have a civil dialogue. It simply cannot happen because they are equal extremists in their prejudicial statements.

Monitor the LU/Richmond game Oct. 4th and the LU/App State game Oct. 11th. Notice that it will be football reports that are the news. Not the fabrication and extremists views of those on this board, who will only accept their belief as the truth that demonizes LU.

If the anti LU posters on this board are representative of the SB school Prez, then I would rather LU wait as long as it takes, to join a conference more in alignment with it's philosophy of success and well being. Fact is the SB is the entry level FBS conference. Who has recently left a FBS conference to join the SB? SB posters here voice their concern here of the financial clout of LU (fear). Posts have even been made to allow LU to join buying their way into the conference and then departing after a pre-determined period.

This prejudicial, LU loathing is small minded thinking. It is simply a reflection of a reality that makes them quake that LU could succeed in the SB. The fear that LU has a greater upside than any current SB team and the LU will eventually dominate and be the best team representing the conference is simply inconceivable and fearful to them. Yes, LU must win conference and FCS playoff games and continue to improve to be a valid FBS member. That formula is in place now.

ODU BLUE, now watch the scathing attacks and personal justifications that will ensue. The LU haters cannot contain themselves.

(09-20-2014 01:07 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  ODU BLUE, you make valid points and observations about those whose intense agendas do not allow them to be objective towards Liberty. Tom, Rev and others always turn and hijack all post towards their righteous moral and world views. You likely attended the ODU/LU game last year. LU played Richmond last year and again this year. LU has played JMU and App State in the past and again this year. To those that know, it's just football between teams. None of this constant rhetoric promoted by a select few on this board.

Your ignorance is astounding. But from what I have seen of Liberty posters, that's nothing new.

(09-20-2014 11:52 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 08:17 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I hope Liberty ends up in C-USA with us.

Tom, why don't you go over to the Big 12 board and harass Baylor?

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

You are welcome to sponsor Liberty for inclusion into Conference USA. In fact, I would enjoy that discussion. How do you think Rice would react to being a peer of LU?

You are also welcome to support Baylor athletics.

(09-20-2014 12:54 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 12:37 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:52 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

When will some of you get it through your thick skulls. You have every right to believe in what you want. The line is drawn when ACTIVE participation in marginalizing groups of people and condemning them to the fringes of society by students, teachers and especially administration is conducted.

I disagree with you and Tom. I think Baylor has every right to their religious freedom and core beliefs.

Quote:It is thus expected that Baylor students will not participate in advocacy groups which promote understandings of sexuality that are contrary to biblical teaching.

http://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/i...p?id=32295

We are not in disagreement with the right of beliefs and abstaining from participation in activities adverse to your beliefs. Nobody is saying you have to change those. What I am saying is they have no right to slander them publicly, promote adverse treatment that you yourself would not accept and advocate passage of laws that limit their adversary's lifestyle to become less than equal to their own. God NEVER gave the power of judgement to man. John 8:15 and Matt 7:1. Way too many Christians seem to forget.

(09-20-2014 01:07 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:52 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 10:10 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 09:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Am I happy with Baylor's policies? No.

So what you are saying is when it comes to politics and religion it's "Your Way or The Highway". Gotcha! A lot of us disagree with you though?

Actually, unlike Liberty, I've never supported a ban on political or religious speech or advocacy on college campuses, in admissions, and for employees. Evangelicals can and do enrich every Sun Belt institution as coaches, athletes, staff, students, administrators, alumni, fans, and professors. There's no discrimination. We just expect that non-evangelicals continue to have access to all opportunities at all Sun Belt member institutions. Liberty openly discriminates in its hiring on the basis of RELIGION, sexual orientation, and marital status. No Sun Belt institution does that. Not a fit.

I don't see much if any difference in Baylor and Liberty. I'm sure you would have both booted if you could. The gay agenda trump religious rights in your mind. Doesn't the NCAA consist of both public and private institutions? One or two Christian Universities are welcome in my world, I would love to have either of them in C-USA! I'm sitting here watching us play Rice in an empty stadium. A packed house in Waco would be a lot more exciting. You are turning me into a Baylor fan Tom.

Carry on with your agenda.

ODU BLUE, you make valid points and observations about those whose intense agendas do not allow them to be objective towards Liberty. Tom, Rev and others always turn and hijack all post towards their righteous moral and world views. You likely attended the ODU/LU game last year. LU played Richmond last year and again this year. LU has played JMU and App State in the past and again this year. To those that know, it's just football between teams. None of this constant rhetoric promoted by a select few on this board.

There are gay members on this board, who have publicly stated they are gay, who resent with a passion any mention of LU. There is no middle or acceptance ground. It's their judgmental, righteous, self-proclaimed position that it's either view that is right.

I also hope that LU will at some time in the future become a CUSA member. To those narrow minded posters, who have never attended a LU game, or been on campus, who draw all their beliefs and conclusions from media reports, let them be. I have tried on numerous occasions to dialogue with those anti LU posters. To have a civil dialogue. It simply cannot happen because they are equal extremists in their prejudicial statements.

Monitor the LU/Richmond game Oct. 4th and the LU/App State game Oct. 11th. Notice that it will be football reports that are the news. Not the fabrication and extremists views of those on this board, who will only accept their belief as the truth that demonizes LU.

If the anti LU posters on this board are representative of the SB school Prez, then I would rather LU wait as long as it takes, to join a conference more in alignment with it's philosophy of success and well being. Fact is the SB is the entry level FBS conference. Who has recently left a FBS conference to join the SB? SB posters here voice their concern here of the financial clout of LU (fear). Posts have even been made to allow LU to join buying their way into the conference and then departing after a pre-determined period.

This prejudicial, LU loathing is small minded thinking. It is simply a reflection of a reality that makes them quake that LU could succeed in the SB. The fear that LU has a greater upside than any current SB team and the LU will eventually dominate and be the best team representing the conference is simply inconceivable and fearful to them. Yes, LU must win conference and FCS playoff games and continue to improve to be a valid FBS member. That formula is in place now.

ODU BLUE, now watch the scathing attacks and personal justifications that will ensue. The LU haters cannot contain themselves.

Pot, meet kettle.

It's the typical response of those that can't support their argument: Insult the opposition, then cry about them persecuting you.

It really just demonstrates how they cannot stand the truth.

(09-20-2014 02:05 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 01:07 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  ODU BLUE, you make valid points and observations about those whose intense agendas do not allow them to be objective towards Liberty. Tom, Rev and others always turn and hijack all post towards their righteous moral and world views. You likely attended the ODU/LU game last year. LU played Richmond last year and again this year. LU has played JMU and App State in the past and again this year. To those that know, it's just football between teams. None of this constant rhetoric promoted by a select few on this board.

Your ignorance is astounding. But from what I have seen of Liberty posters, that's nothing new.

You make my point very clear with your reply. Your lack of ability to be objective and have civil discourse seems to be beyond your emotional and logical ability.

(09-17-2014 09:40 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(09-17-2014 08:48 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(09-17-2014 08:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-17-2014 07:26 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  I can't wait till Oct 11th! But we have some big business the next 3 weeks leading up to it as well.

There is NO mandatory attendance. The students left early because it was Brevard. Should be better this week vs #24 Bryant and will be better for Richmond on 10/4. Yes we gave up too many yards.

No other school realistically on the table brings that crowd, atmosphere, tv production / package. By the way, I think LFSN may be televising the game from Boone as well. Not sure, but I heard they may.

We do have some work to do on the winning tradition. This year is setting up well for a good chance to right that ship. We shall see.

Gonna take 10 to 15 years of winning and washing away public perception.

Do you really think the General Public has any idea about Liberty and it's history? Other than the PC crowd, most football fans could care less. Actually, with the thuggery being put on display lately, it would be refreshing to see a school and athletes with some scruples and morals.

Falwell was a thug looooong before Liberty ever demanded to be allowed into FBS and received the well-deserved backlash. You cannot have it BOTH WAYS!!!!!!

A "thug lune"? Falwell said some stupid things in his day, but he probably also did more good in a year of his life than you'll do in your lifetime. When you create a home for alcoholic men and women that's free of charge to come to or build a home for teenager girls that get pregnant and need extra support and help. How about feed hundreds of thousands of starving kids in Africa and around the world. All most of you know of Falwell are a few comments that he made. Now, back to the debate.
Please note that these new Liberty threads are not being made by Liberty posters and only a couple Liberty posters have commented. At this point there's no reason to debate the issue. No moves will be made for several more months. In the mean time Liberty is having a solid season. Ranked 24th and beat a 25th ranked Bryant team soundly tonight. Looking forward to the App State game. Good luck the rest of the way Sun Belt schools. I pull for every school except Ga State. Panama has made that almost impossible. :)

To be continued here http://csnbbs.com/forum-182.html

(09-20-2014 04:35 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  You make my point very clear with your reply. Your lack of ability to be objective and have civil discourse seems to be beyond your emotional and logical ability.

And you make my point when you insult and attack people, then play the "now watch as they come in and persecute me."

Simply put: You're a hypocrite who refuses to take any ownership for your own shortcomings, and are fully baffled as to why other conferences do not want you.

I'd dare say that is Liberty's biggest problem, trumping even the numerous other issues.

(09-23-2014 06:12 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 04:35 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  You make my point very clear with your reply. Your lack of ability to be objective and have civil discourse seems to be beyond your emotional and logical ability.

And you make my point when you insult and attack people, then play the "now watch as they come in and persecute me."

Simply put: You're a hypocrite who refuses to take any ownership for your own shortcomings, and are fully baffled as to why other conferences do not want you.

I'd dare say that is Liberty's biggest problem, trumping even the numerous other issues.

Rev, I feel your confusion and lack of understanding and know it must be frustrating when one holds the mirror up and is uncomfortable with what one sees. The many posters that disagree with you here, who are non LU fans, attempt like me, to present a valid case of LU as an FBS team. You are incapable to present an objective position always spewing the same rhetoric against LU.

Take a hard look in the mirror when you shave. Maybe that will unloosen some of that hardened, bitter energy you possess that will allow you to be objective rather than cynical and condescending. I've yet to leave a post without you leaving extreme comments. It's like you present yourself as the moral police for the board. I don't think so. Not with absurd, judgmental comments. I knew you would reply as you have every time. That's every time Rev. Every time.

(09-23-2014 06:18 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  Rev, I feel your confusion and lack of understanding and know it must be frustrating when one holds the mirror up and is uncomfortable with what one sees. The many posters that disagree with you here, who are non LU fans, attempt like me, to present a valid case of LU as an FBS team. You are incapable to present an objective position always spewing the same rhetoric against LU.

You can't possibly be this simple, can you? No one has argued against Liberty as FBS. No one. Nary a soul on this board has tried to stop your university from becoming an FBS team.

It's just that many (including the AD's of this fine conference) don't want to be associated with your university.

(09-23-2014 06:18 PM)Newetimes Wrote:  Take a hard look in the mirror when you shave. Maybe that will unloosen some of that hardened, bitter energy you possess that will allow you to be objective rather than cynical and condescending. I've yet to leave a post without you leaving extreme comments. It's like you present yourself as the moral police for the board. I don't think so. Not with absurd, judgmental comments. I knew you would reply as you have every time. That's every time Rev. Every time.

Physician: heal thyself.

Liberty is nothing but a haven for white evangelicals and a degree mill.

92% of their students on campus are white (I assume the 2% that aren't are probably mostly athletes)
89% are republican
9% have no stance on politics

That leaves 2% that may be democratic or independent

Liberty has over 100K online students that take classes that may or may not have the requirements to actually be a college student but they can get a degree online with no problem. Liberty is willing to take their money that way.

Like I said ODU BLUE, if you want your school associated with Liberty then tell your admin to apply to the Big South. There is a reason Liberty has been in the Big South since 1991 and there is a reason Liberty will be in the Big South in 2020. And it has nothing to do with athletics.

The founder of Liberty is one of the most controversial people in my lifetime. And so is his son.

(09-23-2014 09:57 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Liberty is nothing but a haven for white evangelicals and a degree mill.

92% of their students on campus are white (I assume the 2% that aren't are probably mostly athletes)
89% are republican
9% have no stance on politics

That leaves 2% that may be democratic or independent

Liberty has over 100K online students that take classes that may or may not have the requirements to actually be a college student but they can get a degree online with no problem. Liberty is willing to take their money that way.

Like I said ODU BLUE, if you want your school associated with Liberty then tell your admin to apply to the Big South. There is a reason Liberty has been in the Big South since 1991 and there is a reason Liberty will be in the Big South in 2020. And it has nothing to do with athletics.

The founder of Liberty is one of the most controversial people in my lifetime. And so is his son.

Where are you getting your LU demographic numbers? LU is 65% white. I don't know where you even find how many students are GOP. Below is the link to the actual demographic stats. If you can provide a link to your sources I would love to read it.

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/mu...?PID=17156