(08-03-2014 07:26 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:25 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  If F_U fans didn't have such major insecurity issues this whole thing would have died down and pointing out how those schools are pathetic would have ended already.

The fact that a thread like this one exists is a testament to the insecurity found in many of you here on the SB board.

I guess F_U is lucky to have folks like you to defend their honour on this board huh?

Thin skin

I'm sorry but you're not making any sense. I suggest you read a little more before responding. Your thought process and arguments are all over the place.

(08-03-2014 07:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:17 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 06:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 05:24 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 05:13 PM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  This. I just don't understand the hate. In the end we are all in the same boat and none of us will be in a power 5 conference. I continue to root for the SBC!

It's the looking down your collective nose at the place you come from, as conferences not named SBC have before you. That air of superiority..."we have arrived"...like you're in an AQ conference, a year removed from this conference. There is not one team in cusa that cannot be beaten by TROY. The only way we'll get a shot closer to the ones at the top of the league is during bowl season and I pray to the Lord above we can get to one of them...

The only one's looking down their nose is SBC fans towards FAU and FIU

I know I pissed a lot of you off but I really didn't make a judgement on the SBC. And I sure didn't say anything about CUSA. I tend to piss people off like that ...

not with what I say but by the numbers I post

What I did was list the collective records of each SBC schools and compared them with FAU and FIU.

What they showed was FAU was not any worse than the top schools in this conference and FIU would be a small step below that..

when you look at their 8 to 9 years in the SBC

Some of you took exception to those numbers and went with the but but but but

So I went with the last 3 years and what it showed was very similar numbers to Troy and ULM and better than the 2 new FBS additions .

Yet FAU and FIU suck

So no one was "looking down their nose at the SBC...

What a few of you did was to take acceptation to seeing your own numbers and how bad they are if you look at them in your body of work.

Not one have I put the SBC down as a matter of fact I've took the SBC side in many post on the CUSA board....CajunFanatico can tell you that.

I'm not anti SBC and not once have I said Western was better...just because we switched conferences. Well other than basketball. I do think CUSA has more room to grow in football but just like the new comers to the SBC that's something that won't show for a few years.

Some of you (you know who you are) have the "little brother" complex and anything said is taken in that context.

The funny thing is that these attacks towards FIU and FAU weren't provoked. They just came out of left field for no apparent reason.

We were told that because teams have left the Sun Belt for CUSA, and no teams have left CUSA for the Sun Belt, that CUSA is better than the Sun Belt. FIU and FAU leaving were a blessing for the Sun Belt, and that has only made the Sun Belt stronger.

That isn't really an attack, just a rebuttal.

If you believe that FIU and FAU leaving was a blessing, what do you call the arrival of Idaho and NMSU?

Crap schools in Florida are crap schools in Florida.

That pretty much settles it.

Moving along...

(08-03-2014 07:38 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Crap schools in Florida are crap schools in Florida.

That pretty much settles it.

Moving along...

Behave or I'll call your parents. You know what that means right? No more video games or internet for you buddy.

(08-03-2014 07:37 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:17 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 06:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 05:24 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  It's the looking down your collective nose at the place you come from, as conferences not named SBC have before you. That air of superiority..."we have arrived"...like you're in an AQ conference, a year removed from this conference. There is not one team in cusa that cannot be beaten by TROY. The only way we'll get a shot closer to the ones at the top of the league is during bowl season and I pray to the Lord above we can get to one of them...

The only one's looking down their nose is SBC fans towards FAU and FIU

I know I pissed a lot of you off but I really didn't make a judgement on the SBC. And I sure didn't say anything about CUSA. I tend to piss people off like that ...

not with what I say but by the numbers I post

What I did was list the collective records of each SBC schools and compared them with FAU and FIU.

What they showed was FAU was not any worse than the top schools in this conference and FIU would be a small step below that..

when you look at their 8 to 9 years in the SBC

Some of you took exception to those numbers and went with the but but but but

So I went with the last 3 years and what it showed was very similar numbers to Troy and ULM and better than the 2 new FBS additions .

Yet FAU and FIU suck

So no one was "looking down their nose at the SBC...

What a few of you did was to take acceptation to seeing your own numbers and how bad they are if you look at them in your body of work.

Not one have I put the SBC down as a matter of fact I've took the SBC side in many post on the CUSA board....CajunFanatico can tell you that.

I'm not anti SBC and not once have I said Western was better...just because we switched conferences. Well other than basketball. I do think CUSA has more room to grow in football but just like the new comers to the SBC that's something that won't show for a few years.

Some of you (you know who you are) have the "little brother" complex and anything said is taken in that context.

The funny thing is that these attacks towards FIU and FAU weren't provoked. They just came out of left field for no apparent reason.

We were told that because teams have left the Sun Belt for CUSA, and no teams have left CUSA for the Sun Belt, that CUSA is better than the Sun Belt. FIU and FAU leaving were a blessing for the Sun Belt, and that has only made the Sun Belt stronger.

That isn't really an attack, just a rebuttal.

If you believe that FIU and FAU leaving was a blessing, what do you call the arrival of Idaho and NMSU?

Adjunct members for now. Georgia Southern and Appalachian State are the clear improvements over for F_U from the eastern U.S.

Idaho and NMSU have a lot of potential.

I still wish at least ONE of the Florida schools was in the Sun Belt. Would have been nice to have a natural in for recruiting, and well... That was an away game I was looking forward to.

If I had my choice (and no offense to anyone), WKU, MTSU, and one of the Florida schools would have stayed. Add in App & Georgia Southern, gives us 12, and a really solid lineup.

If we had to lose one of my "keepers", I'd have taken UNT to give us another Texas school. No Idaho, no NMSU. No need for anyone else. Good lineup top to bottom.

But it didn't happen. I wish them all well, except when they play other Sun Belt teams.

(08-03-2014 07:41 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:37 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:17 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 06:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The only one's looking down their nose is SBC fans towards FAU and FIU

I know I pissed a lot of you off but I really didn't make a judgement on the SBC. And I sure didn't say anything about CUSA. I tend to piss people off like that ...

not with what I say but by the numbers I post

What I did was list the collective records of each SBC schools and compared them with FAU and FIU.

What they showed was FAU was not any worse than the top schools in this conference and FIU would be a small step below that..

when you look at their 8 to 9 years in the SBC

Some of you took exception to those numbers and went with the but but but but

So I went with the last 3 years and what it showed was very similar numbers to Troy and ULM and better than the 2 new FBS additions .

Yet FAU and FIU suck

So no one was "looking down their nose at the SBC...

What a few of you did was to take acceptation to seeing your own numbers and how bad they are if you look at them in your body of work.

Not one have I put the SBC down as a matter of fact I've took the SBC side in many post on the CUSA board....CajunFanatico can tell you that.

I'm not anti SBC and not once have I said Western was better...just because we switched conferences. Well other than basketball. I do think CUSA has more room to grow in football but just like the new comers to the SBC that's something that won't show for a few years.

Some of you (you know who you are) have the "little brother" complex and anything said is taken in that context.

The funny thing is that these attacks towards FIU and FAU weren't provoked. They just came out of left field for no apparent reason.

We were told that because teams have left the Sun Belt for CUSA, and no teams have left CUSA for the Sun Belt, that CUSA is better than the Sun Belt. FIU and FAU leaving were a blessing for the Sun Belt, and that has only made the Sun Belt stronger.

That isn't really an attack, just a rebuttal.

If you believe that FIU and FAU leaving was a blessing, what do you call the arrival of Idaho and NMSU?

Adjunct members for now. Georgia Southern and Appalachian State are the clear improvements over for F_U from the eastern U.S.

Oh ok. So when are they leaving? And if App and Gso replaced FIU/FAU, who replaced MT/WK?

(08-03-2014 07:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Idaho and NMSU have a lot of potential.

Mocking your own conference mates I see...oh wait. Are you serious? Because if you are, then we all have a lot of potential.

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I still wish at least ONE of the Florida schools was in the Sun Belt. Would have been nice to have a natural in for recruiting, and well... That was an away game I was looking forward to.

If I had my choice (and no offense to anyone), WKU, MTSU, and one of the Florida schools would have stayed. Add in App & Georgia Southern, gives us 12, and a really solid lineup.

If we had to lose one of my "keepers", I'd have taken UNT to give us another Texas school. No Idaho, no NMSU. No need for anyone else. Good lineup top to bottom.

But it didn't happen. I wish them all well, except when they play other Sun Belt teams.

I think it will end up a good thing for the Belt as a whole. The SBC teams still do fine pulling recruits out of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and still Florida.

In time, and with a little luck, the growth potential of the teams in today mean that nobody would end up outside the top 5 schools in their state, like the F_U schools.

F_U may have offered a short term recruiting push but overall where are they heading? They are schools that get zero respect in their own state, academically or athletically.

Idaho and NMSU offer a whole hell of a lot more, potentially. Still, if they don't pan out they were as good as having anybody else.

UNT and MTSU were losses though.

(08-03-2014 05:24 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 05:13 PM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 10:40 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  FYI

I still love my WKU and MT chums. I aint know hater... unless, of course you are a D-bag that speaks out of his sss.. You know who you are.

Best of luck to CUSA and SBC. The world is your erster... Only the strong will survive.

Profound **** on a Sunday morning.

Z

This. I just don't understand the hate. In the end we are all in the same boat and none of us will be in a power 5 conference. I continue to root for the SBC!

It's the looking down your collective nose at the place you come from, as conferences not named SBC have before you. That air of superiority..."we have arrived"...like you're in an AQ conference, a year removed from this conference. There is not one team in cusa that cannot be beaten by TROY. The only way we'll get a shot closer to the ones at the top of the league is during bowl season and I pray to the Lord above we can get to one of them...

Hey I agree. Troy could beat any team in CUSA, no MT fan would rebutt that lol. Just like any team in CUSA could beat Troy. In football our top teams are equivalent to the top teams in the SBC. There isn't a gap anymore between the two conferences. What our programs should be focusing on is being the best they can be given the current circumstances. I know I'm all "kumbaya" but ****, in the end who cares? The real enemy is the power 5 trying to kill the group of 5. I'm a proud MT fan who will respect and appreciate our past whether it's the OVC or SBC. I'm proud of CUSA. Y'all should be proud of those who have left and those coming in. I know it's more complicated than that when you include the administrations but as fans there is very little in our control. Just enjoy it for what it is. Be happy guys and gals! There is a lot to look forward to in both conferences!

(08-03-2014 07:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I still wish at least ONE of the Florida schools was in the Sun Belt. Would have been nice to have a natural in for recruiting, and well... That was an away game I was looking forward to.

If I had my choice (and no offense to anyone), WKU, MTSU, and one of the Florida schools would have stayed. Add in App & Georgia Southern, gives us 12, and a really solid lineup.

If we had to lose one of my "keepers", I'd have taken UNT to give us another Texas school. No Idaho, no NMSU. No need for anyone else. Good lineup top to bottom.

But it didn't happen. I wish them all well, except when they play other Sun Belt teams.

I think it will end up a good thing for the Belt as a whole. The SBC teams still do fine pulling recruits out of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and still Florida.

In time, and with a little luck, the growth potential of the teams in today mean that nobody would end up outside the top 5 schools in their state, like the F_U schools.

F_U may have offered a short term recruiting push but overall where are they heading? They are schools that get zero respect in their own state, academically or athletically.

Idaho and NMSU offer a whole hell of a lot more, potentially. Still, if they don't pan out they were as good as having anybody else.

UNT and MTSU were losses though.

Lol You should consider a career in stand up comedy.

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:41 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:37 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:17 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  The funny thing is that these attacks towards FIU and FAU weren't provoked. They just came out of left field for no apparent reason.

We were told that because teams have left the Sun Belt for CUSA, and no teams have left CUSA for the Sun Belt, that CUSA is better than the Sun Belt. FIU and FAU leaving were a blessing for the Sun Belt, and that has only made the Sun Belt stronger.

That isn't really an attack, just a rebuttal.

If you believe that FIU and FAU leaving was a blessing, what do you call the arrival of Idaho and NMSU?

Adjunct members for now. Georgia Southern and Appalachian State are the clear improvements over for F_U from the eastern U.S.

Oh ok. So when are they leaving? And if App and Gso replaced FIU/FAU, who replaced MT/WK?

Sun Belt definitely lost ground when those two left - but what the hell does that have to do with F_U relieving the Sun Belt of dead weight? I don't contend Sun Belt is better off now than it was. I just oppose the notion that the Sun Belt takes a big hit every time a school leaves the Sun Belt for CUSA.

(08-03-2014 08:07 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I still wish at least ONE of the Florida schools was in the Sun Belt. Would have been nice to have a natural in for recruiting, and well... That was an away game I was looking forward to.

If I had my choice (and no offense to anyone), WKU, MTSU, and one of the Florida schools would have stayed. Add in App & Georgia Southern, gives us 12, and a really solid lineup.

If we had to lose one of my "keepers", I'd have taken UNT to give us another Texas school. No Idaho, no NMSU. No need for anyone else. Good lineup top to bottom.

But it didn't happen. I wish them all well, except when they play other Sun Belt teams.

I think it will end up a good thing for the Belt as a whole. The SBC teams still do fine pulling recruits out of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and still Florida.

In time, and with a little luck, the growth potential of the teams in today mean that nobody would end up outside the top 5 schools in their state, like the F_U schools.

F_U may have offered a short term recruiting push but overall where are they heading? They are schools that get zero respect in their own state, academically or athletically.

Idaho and NMSU offer a whole hell of a lot more, potentially. Still, if they don't pan out they were as good as having anybody else.

UNT and MTSU were losses though.

Lol You should consider a career in stand up comedy.

Isn't that what your degree will get you a job doing?

(08-03-2014 11:13 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Something lost on a few folk seems to be the fact that there is great untapped potential in both NMSU and Idaho. There is more potential in either of those programs than the entire grouping of CUSA schools.

Those were fantastic additions and the Belt needs to get moving fully integrating them.

I literally spit out my diet orange soad reading this post...You lose any ounce of creditability you had before which was not much reading your posts in this thread...Now you are for sure trolling, clear as day!

(08-03-2014 08:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 08:07 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I still wish at least ONE of the Florida schools was in the Sun Belt. Would have been nice to have a natural in for recruiting, and well... That was an away game I was looking forward to.

If I had my choice (and no offense to anyone), WKU, MTSU, and one of the Florida schools would have stayed. Add in App & Georgia Southern, gives us 12, and a really solid lineup.

If we had to lose one of my "keepers", I'd have taken UNT to give us another Texas school. No Idaho, no NMSU. No need for anyone else. Good lineup top to bottom.

But it didn't happen. I wish them all well, except when they play other Sun Belt teams.

I think it will end up a good thing for the Belt as a whole. The SBC teams still do fine pulling recruits out of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and still Florida.

In time, and with a little luck, the growth potential of the teams in today mean that nobody would end up outside the top 5 schools in their state, like the F_U schools.

F_U may have offered a short term recruiting push but overall where are they heading? They are schools that get zero respect in their own state, academically or athletically.

Idaho and NMSU offer a whole hell of a lot more, potentially. Still, if they don't pan out they were as good as having anybody else.

UNT and MTSU were losses though.

Lol You should consider a career in stand up comedy.

Isn't that what your degree will get you a job doing?

There you go again. You keep knocking them out of the park lol great stuff man! Keep it up!

(08-03-2014 08:07 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  Lol You should consider a career in stand up comedy.

I agree. Tossing in the UNTs is hilarious.

(08-03-2014 08:28 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:41 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:37 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  We were told that because teams have left the Sun Belt for CUSA, and no teams have left CUSA for the Sun Belt, that CUSA is better than the Sun Belt. FIU and FAU leaving were a blessing for the Sun Belt, and that has only made the Sun Belt stronger.

That isn't really an attack, just a rebuttal.

If you believe that FIU and FAU leaving was a blessing, what do you call the arrival of Idaho and NMSU?

Adjunct members for now. Georgia Southern and Appalachian State are the clear improvements over for F_U from the eastern U.S.

Oh ok. So when are they leaving? And if App and Gso replaced FIU/FAU, who replaced MT/WK?

Sun Belt definitely lost ground when those two left - but what the hell does that have to do with F_U relieving the Sun Belt of dead weight? I don't contend Sun Belt is better off now than it was. I just oppose the notion that the Sun Belt takes a big hit every time a school leaves the Sun Belt for CUSA.

That's the point. FIU and FAU didn't relieved the SB of any weight. You actually gained more weight when Idaho and NMSU were added.

Time for some numbers...

2011
FIU one game behind UL-L and a 4th place finish

2010
FIU SBC champs!

2009
FAU 3rd place in tHe SBC ahead of UL-L and ASU

2008
FAU 3rd in the conference 2 games from 1st with a better overall record than ASU and UL-L
FIU 5th in the SBC 1 game off the record of ASU and UL-L

2007
FAU SBC Champs

2006
FAU tied with ASU for 3rd...1 game ahead of UL-L

So 6 out of the last 7 years FAU and FIU were in the SBC

2 SBC championships
3 3rd place finishes
1 4th place

The only year one of them was not in the top of the conference was 2012

So you replaced 2 SBC championships and 4 bowl bids out of schools that only played football for 9 and 10 years with

2 schools that won a combined 4 games over 3 seasons...safe bet would be at least 1/2 of those 4 wins came vs the other

(08-03-2014 08:48 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 08:28 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:41 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:37 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  If you believe that FIU and FAU leaving was a blessing, what do you call the arrival of Idaho and NMSU?

Adjunct members for now. Georgia Southern and Appalachian State are the clear improvements over for F_U from the eastern U.S.

Oh ok. So when are they leaving? And if App and Gso replaced FIU/FAU, who replaced MT/WK?

Sun Belt definitely lost ground when those two left - but what the hell does that have to do with F_U relieving the Sun Belt of dead weight? I don't contend Sun Belt is better off now than it was. I just oppose the notion that the Sun Belt takes a big hit every time a school leaves the Sun Belt for CUSA.

That's the point. FIU and FAU didn't relieved the SB of any weight. You actually gained more weight when Idaho and NMSU were added.

What part of good riddance don't you understand? We're happy you left. Why are you still here?