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RE: Memphis doesn't owe a dime to CUSA
(11-11-2013 06:07 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-11-2013 06:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Let's just stick to the topic, please.

Look, I just short-circuited about 5 or 6 posts by putting "that liberal rag" in my post. Because If I didn't put that, inevitably, someone would either criticize, or question why I, as a Memphis fan, do not subscribe to my own hometown paper. Just one reading, and there is no need to question why I can only refer to a thread about the article, and not the article itself. You immediately know why I can't give a synopsis.

See how considerate I am?

But no one gives a **** that you dont subscribe to the CA.
11-11-2013 09:44 PM
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(11-11-2013 09:44 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  But no one gives a **** that you dont subscribe to the CA.

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(11-11-2013 04:36 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...er=popular

Can't read the article because it's behind a paywall. But I can take a guess at what this is.

Memphis has a ton of NCAA tournament credits that will stay with CUSA and CUSA bylaws allow for tournament credits to be used to offset the exit fee. The CUSA exit fee is $500K, with an additional 5 years of TV revenue that must be put into escrow in case the conference TV deal goes down within 5 years. Memphis has earned enough NCAA credits to wipe out the $500K easily, and should eat a good chunk of the $6M put into escrow as well - and they should (as should everyone else leaving CUSA) get that money back at the end of 5 years as CUSA is showing no indication of losing TV revenue. Also, the entry fee into the American was essentially waived as part of the settlement of the "war chest" of exit fees and tourney credits left behind by the departing schools. After all is said and done, Memphis will have made a couple of million dollars in the process (as will most if not all of CUSA's defectors).

Can anyone verify by posting a synopsis of this article?

Synopsis:

1. When Memphis announced it was joining the Big East, a footnote was the possibility of a $6.6M exit fee/media loss penalty, plus the $2.5M entry fee to the Big East.

2. Memphis is still paying the full entry fee to the AAC.

Excerpt: "The U of M remains on the hook for its $2.5 million entry fee to the AAC, even though it was originally supposed to go to the Big East, an AAC spokesman confirmed last week. The Tigers are paying this by forfeiting $500,000 of their annual revenue distribution from the AAC for the next five years."

3. Memphis' exit fee/media loss penalty from CUSA is $0, thanks to leaving behind a lot of NCAA credits, which in 2013, are worth $245,000 each. The $1.7M it placed in escrow has been released.

4. Memphis could earn 1/2 credit per game in BB (up to 2 games max a year) by playing any CUSA teams, neutral or on the road, where CUSA has the TV rights, through the 2018-19 season.

Excerpt: (AD Tom) Bowen said he’s doubtful the U of M does this in 2014-15, “but at some point, it’s an option,” he said. “And many of those institutions are long-standing rivals with us.” Though he didn’t name them, logic would suggest games against UAB, or perhaps Southern Miss.

5. Memphis never considered the $6.6M demand from CUSA to be final, but rather a starting point for negotiations, especially since many other schools are departing CUSA for the BE/AAC, and affecting the new media deal (which looks like they are not losing any money, anyway).

6. AAC revenue still uncertain.

Excerpt: Bowen isn’t sure how much to expect from the AAC in revenue sharing, calling that figure still a “moving target.” The Houston Chronicle reported in July that the University of Houston is anticipating about $2 million annually from the league.

7. The Memphis-Conference USA settlement, signed in August, pledges the school and league not to sue each other. A copy of the settlement was obtained under the TN Open Records Act.
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11-12-2013 04:49 AM
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RE: Memphis doesn't owe a dime to CUSA
(11-12-2013 04:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-11-2013 04:36 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...er=popular

Can't read the article because it's behind a paywall. But I can take a guess at what this is.

Memphis has a ton of NCAA tournament credits that will stay with CUSA and CUSA bylaws allow for tournament credits to be used to offset the exit fee. The CUSA exit fee is $500K, with an additional 5 years of TV revenue that must be put into escrow in case the conference TV deal goes down within 5 years. Memphis has earned enough NCAA credits to wipe out the $500K easily, and should eat a good chunk of the $6M put into escrow as well - and they should (as should everyone else leaving CUSA) get that money back at the end of 5 years as CUSA is showing no indication of losing TV revenue. Also, the entry fee into the American was essentially waived as part of the settlement of the "war chest" of exit fees and tourney credits left behind by the departing schools. After all is said and done, Memphis will have made a couple of million dollars in the process (as will most if not all of CUSA's defectors).

Can anyone verify by posting a synopsis of this article?

Synopsis:

1. When Memphis announced it was joining the Big East, a footnote was the possibility of a $6.6M exit fee/media loss penalty, plus the $2.5M entry fee to the Big East.

2. Memphis is still paying the full entry fee to the AAC.

Excerpt: "The U of M remains on the hook for its $2.5 million entry fee to the AAC, even though it was originally supposed to go to the Big East, an AAC spokesman confirmed last week. The Tigers are paying this by forfeiting $500,000 of their annual revenue distribution from the AAC for the next five years."

3. Memphis' exit fee/media loss penalty from CUSA is $0, thanks to leaving behind a lot of NCAA credits, which in 2013, are worth $245,000 each. The $1.7M it placed in escrow has been released.

4. Memphis could earn 1/2 credit per game in BB (up to 2 games max a year) by playing any CUSA teams, neutral or on the road, where CUSA has the TV rights, through the 2018-19 season.

Excerpt: (AD Tom) Bowen said he’s doubtful the U of M does this in 2014-15, “but at some point, it’s an option,” he said. “And many of those institutions are long-standing rivals with us.” Though he didn’t name them, logic would suggest games against UAB, or perhaps Southern Miss.

5. Memphis never considered the $6.6M demand from CUSA to be final, but rather a starting point for negotiations, especially since many other schools are departing CUSA for the BE/AAC, and affecting the new media deal (which looks like they are not losing any money, anyway).

6. AAC revenue still uncertain.

Excerpt: Bowen isn’t sure how much to expect from the AAC in revenue sharing, calling that figure still a “moving target.” The Houston Chronicle reported in July that the University of Houston is anticipating about $2 million annually from the league.

7. The Memphis-Conference USA settlement, signed in August, pledges the school and league not to sue each other. A copy of the settlement was obtained under the TN Open Records Act.

Thanks AAA. Great info. I appreciate it.

That said, I think the "war chest" settlement will basically eliminate the $2.5M entry fee, plus pay about $1M after the six years of distributions is complete. I also believe the $2M/year revenue from the AAC is too low. That's what the conference gets from the BCS alone, let alone any TV revenue, bowls, sponsorships, or NCAA tournament money - or the war chest.
11-12-2013 08:31 AM
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RE: Memphis doesn't owe a dime to CUSA
Here's the article on the "war chest split" the newcomers share 40% of the roughly $100M. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013...ike-aresco

That adds up to about $4M per incoming school - or $1.5M more than the entry fee.
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RE: Memphis doesn't owe a dime to CUSA
(11-12-2013 08:46 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Here's the article on the "war chest split" the newcomers share 40% of the roughly $100M. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013...ike-aresco

That adds up to about $4M per incoming school - or $1.5M more than the entry fee.

I agree, but apparently, those two activities are being done as separate transactions. We're taking $500K less distribution than we will actually earn for 5 years, to cover the entry fee, and also are taking our share of the exit fee distribution over some period of years, too.
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RE: Memphis doesn't owe a dime to CUSA
(11-12-2013 08:46 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Here's the article on the "war chest split" the newcomers share 40% of the roughly $100M. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013...ike-aresco

That adds up to about $4M per incoming school - or $1.5M more than the entry fee.

Just to clarify:
Quote:Cincinnati, UConn and USF would split the 60 percent portion, while UCF, Tulane, SMU, Houston, Memphis, East Carolina, Tulsa, Temple and Navy would split the other portion when they are active members of the league.

So old 3 would get up to $20mil
New 9 - up to $4.4mil.

Sounds like a great time for UConn/USF to use money to get the best FB HC in.
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RE: Memphis doesn't owe a dime to CUSA
(11-12-2013 10:06 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  So old 3 would get up to $20mil
New 9 - up to $4.4mil.

Oh, well.... If you want to play, you gotta pay. Or in this case, get paid way less.
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