(10-27-2013 10:30 AM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(10-26-2013 02:55 PM)jnewyouth Wrote:  UConn-USF was regional and not shown in Cincy.

Were living in different paradigms. You guys are happy because the coverage is better than CUSA's that you're used to, we're unhappy because it's worse than he old Big East. We're both correct in our opinion of the coverage because of our differing experiences.

A buddy of mine I was sitting with at the UCF game was texting with a friend who was watching the game from Seattle at 9 AM PST. I don't know about Cincinnati, but even though the UCF-UConn game was syndicated on ESPN Regional, it was shown in several large markets.

The exposure and reach of those ESPN Regional TV games is uneven. It just depends on which affiliated networks choose to pick up the game. For instance, the local Houston affiliate rarely shows the "AAC regional game of the week" if Houston is not participating. Some other affiliates may be much more loyal to the programming. Just a guess, but I suspect network affiliates in the east are far more likely to show these games than networks farther west.

(10-27-2013 10:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 10:30 AM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(10-26-2013 02:55 PM)jnewyouth Wrote:  UConn-USF was regional and not shown in Cincy.

Were living in different paradigms. You guys are happy because the coverage is better than CUSA's that you're used to, we're unhappy because it's worse than he old Big East. We're both correct in our opinion of the coverage because of our differing experiences.

A buddy of mine I was sitting with at the UCF game was texting with a friend who was watching the game from Seattle at 9 AM PST. I don't know about Cincinnati, but even though the UCF-UConn game was syndicated on ESPN Regional, it was shown in several large markets.

The exposure and reach of those ESPN Regional TV games is uneven. It just depends on which affiliated networks choose to pick up the game. For instance, the local Houston affiliate rarely shows the "AAC regional game of the week" if Houston is not participating. Some other affiliates may be much more loyal to the programming. Just a guess, but I suspect network affiliates in the east are far more likely to show these games than networks farther west.

Even given that fact, the ESPN Regional "American Athletic Conference Game of the Week" was on 3 different regional sports networks (SNY, MASN, and Altitude). I would bet most people in the country who pay for a "Sports Pack" (as the OP claims to have done) through their TV provider would get at least one of those 3 channels.

(10-27-2013 10:27 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 03:30 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-26-2013 08:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-26-2013 06:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(10-26-2013 02:53 PM)jnewyouth Wrote:  This might e the old Big East deal, but we're getting far worse coverage than the old Big East got. We are being completely relegated to weeknights, ESPN news, regional coverage, and ESPN360 these days. I used to be able to find conference mates easily, now it's very difficult. Houston v Rutgers was an exception this year.

what in the world do you expect?!?!?! The AAC is basically a mid major conference playing with the Big Easts auto bid this year. UH, UC, UCF, SMU...these are not national brands. Not sure what you expect but we aren't going to be on tv like the Big12, SEC, etc because we don't have premier football brands, we dont have national followings and buy in large we are large metro area schools with smaller fan bases in major league cities. Unless one of us gets in the Top 10 or Top 5, we generally aren't going to garner much national interest...similar to the MAC, CUSA, MWC, Sunbelt, and other mid major leagues.

Yawn. Blah blah blah. You're whining about the same exposure the Big East has always had. The contractual exposure the league had last year is what you have this year. There has been zero change. If it sucks--then it always sucked.

The truth is the legacy teams of the Big East will recieve better exposure next year than they ever received in the past. That is a fact.

Hey, very good points. Nice polite smack, too.

Now wait for it...

He sounded similar on TV coverage to how you sounded about bowl games.

Sorta kidding, sorta not. All in good fun, friend.

P.S. I absolutely agree with you on this issue.

Lol. Perhhaps it may seem similar, but my bowl bitching is more warranted. The difference here is the bowl situation did change for the worse (pretty significantly I might add). He is whining about a tv situation that is currently unchanged--but is actually slated to get much better next year.

fWIW--my bowl bitching is pretty much done since its all been announced (dont dispair, I might occaisionlly drop an "our bowl line up sucks" here and there just for old times sake).

Heh heh, I never complained about your bowl bitching the first 3 dozen times. Only the next hundred million, when we already knew basically what was up.

As for the other guy, yep, I agree, much different situation.

BTW, I wrote a software program to alert me every time you gripe about bowls and repeat something now.

(10-27-2013 04:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't however see what Houston, Central Florida, Memphis and Southern. Methodist got for jumping to The AAC. Aside from a one season shot at a guaranteed BCS bowl bid. After this season The Big East aka The AAC will slip back to the access level of The MWC.

Its not like we had a crystal ball and could foresee the Big East's demise when we were invited. But, while the money certainly isn't there, I don't think anyone can argue the TV exposure here vs. CUSA isn't far better. Heck, the basketball coverage by itself makes the move well worth it. All we can do is hope the exposure translates in to better recruiting and, as a result, more winning.

Same here with comcast. I've seen at least 2-3 games each week since they've started the conference games.

(10-27-2013 01:57 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 04:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't however see what Houston, Central Florida, Memphis and Southern. Methodist got for jumping to The AAC. Aside from a one season shot at a guaranteed BCS bowl bid. After this season The Big East aka The AAC will slip back to the access level of The MWC.

Its not like we had a crystal ball and could foresee the Big East's demise when we were invited. But, while the money certainly isn't there, I don't think anyone can argue the TV exposure here vs. CUSA isn't far better. Heck, the basketball coverage by itself makes the move well worth it. All we can do is hope the exposure translates in to better recruiting and, as a result, more winning.

I think you are guaranteed to see that. There is no way being on national TV 18-20 times a year doesn't nab you recruits you were not getting before.

(10-27-2013 02:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 01:57 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 04:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't however see what Houston, Central Florida, Memphis and Southern. Methodist got for jumping to The AAC. Aside from a one season shot at a guaranteed BCS bowl bid. After this season The Big East aka The AAC will slip back to the access level of The MWC.

Its not like we had a crystal ball and could foresee the Big East's demise when we were invited. But, while the money certainly isn't there, I don't think anyone can argue the TV exposure here vs. CUSA isn't far better. Heck, the basketball coverage by itself makes the move well worth it. All we can do is hope the exposure translates in to better recruiting and, as a result, more winning.

I think you are guaranteed to see that. There is no way being on national TV 18-20 times a year doesn't nab you recruits you were not getting before.

Well...it depends on what "national tv" is. If it means CBS Sports Network, good luck with "exposure". I know we're not going that route, but I'm just saying "national tv" doesn't mean quite as much as it used to anymore with so many sports networks popping up. There's a huge difference between being on ESPN and ESPNews much less any of the newer networks in town.

(10-27-2013 02:06 PM)Brian Reading Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 02:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 01:57 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 04:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't however see what Houston, Central Florida, Memphis and Southern. Methodist got for jumping to The AAC. Aside from a one season shot at a guaranteed BCS bowl bid. After this season The Big East aka The AAC will slip back to the access level of The MWC.

Its not like we had a crystal ball and could foresee the Big East's demise when we were invited. But, while the money certainly isn't there, I don't think anyone can argue the TV exposure here vs. CUSA isn't far better. Heck, the basketball coverage by itself makes the move well worth it. All we can do is hope the exposure translates in to better recruiting and, as a result, more winning.

I think you are guaranteed to see that. There is no way being on national TV 18-20 times a year doesn't nab you recruits you were not getting before.

Well...it depends on what "national tv" is. If it means CBS Sports Network, good luck with "exposure". I know we're not going that route, but I'm just saying "national tv" doesn't mean quite as much as it used to anymore with so many sports networks popping up. There's a huge difference between being on ESPN and ESPNews much less any of the newer networks in town.

You make a good point: if everyone is on national TV than effectiveness nobody is. And there is a big difference between say NBCSN and ESPN. Or ABC.

(10-27-2013 04:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't however see what Houston, Central Florida, Memphis and Southern. Methodist got for jumping to The AAC. Aside from a one season shot at a guaranteed BCS bowl bid. After this season The Big East aka The AAC will slip back to the access level of the MWC.
CJ

I still think it was a move that all of those schools had to make at the time. It's like WVU going to the Big 12 - maybe the school would have done things differently if it knew the ACC was going to have to backfill a year later, but you can't take that risk of passing up a guaranteed power conference spot if you're running a school.

The immediate benefits of the AAC compared to C-USA aren't that great - I'd agree with that. However, if you're a school thy legitimately thinks that it could get a Big 12 or, less likely, an ACC invite, then the AAC is going to be the better showcase for the long-term. There are only going to be a very small handful of power 5 slots left (maybe 2 or 4 at the most, if any at all).

Saw UH vs RU, and UL vs USF on some variation of ESPN channels yesterday. I think one was Espn2 and the other Espnnews, not sure. On TWC in Coastal NC. In Greenville I would only be able to see ESPN/ESPN2 unless I get the extended package (I use my parents watch Espn).

(10-27-2013 02:06 PM)Brian Reading Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 02:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 01:57 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 04:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't however see what Houston, Central Florida, Memphis and Southern. Methodist got for jumping to The AAC. Aside from a one season shot at a guaranteed BCS bowl bid. After this season The Big East aka The AAC will slip back to the access level of The MWC.

Its not like we had a crystal ball and could foresee the Big East's demise when we were invited. But, while the money certainly isn't there, I don't think anyone can argue the TV exposure here vs. CUSA isn't far better. Heck, the basketball coverage by itself makes the move well worth it. All we can do is hope the exposure translates in to better recruiting and, as a result, more winning.

I think you are guaranteed to see that. There is no way being on national TV 18-20 times a year doesn't nab you recruits you were not getting before.

Well...it depends on what "national tv" is. If it means CBS Sports Network, good luck with "exposure". I know we're not going that route, but I'm just saying "national tv" doesn't mean quite as much as it used to anymore with so many sports networks popping up. There's a huge difference between being on ESPN and ESPNews much less any of the newer networks in town.

Last year we had one game on national TV---any national TV. This year we have 19 not including the end of season tournament. Every CUSA, Sunbelt, MW, and MAC team will be looking at 1-2 games on a CBS-Sports network as their season high point. The AAC will have a level of exposure that is as good as any P-5 conference in basketball. That is a recruiting tool that shoud easily result in an influx of talent to at least 7 of the leagues 10 basketball programs. Even the existing AAC programs like Cinci and UConn should see some small increase in national exposure. Basically, I think you are looking at a situation where the new teams in the league will see a significant influx of talent and will improve very quickly.

I'm still scoffing at the "ESPN exposure" mantra from the Commish....

(10-27-2013 04:26 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I'm still scoffing at the "ESPN exposure" mantra from the Commish....

How can you scoff? The basketball TV schedule is already out. The new ESPN deal begins THIS FALL for basketball. You might be skeptical of the way AAC football will be treated next year under the new deal, but the new AAC media deal for basketball is in place and the TV schedule for basketball is right there in black and white to read. The schedules below do not count any broadcasts on CBS-Broadcast television (about 8-9 additional national games).

http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/artic...-201308211


http://sportsmediajournal.com/2013/08/21...s-network/

Yeah the basketball exposure appears to be very good. The football part is my big concern. I think the exposure will end up being good but I'm concerned with how many mid week games it's going to end up being.