(08-04-2013 03:00 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.
2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.
3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

Quote:1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.

False. Drug use among black adults is above the national average
http://www.samhsa.gov/obhe/african-american.aspx

Quote:2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.

This makes no sense whatsoever. Blacks still commit the most murders in the United States. Are gang members in Chicago that kill often not also serial killer. What a dumb*** comparison.

Quote:3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

What's your point? Is meth somehow worse than crack?

There are your facts.

(08-04-2013 03:04 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

No..I am being stone cold serious. The worst MOFOs I have ever encountered were white. Ever wonder why serial killers are almost all white? We are the worst.

Who commits the most violent crime in America? Whites or Blacks?

Whites. The only mass murder I can think of was the DC kid. Damn near every time someone goes postal...they are white. Tim McVeigh was fine fellow.

Wrong, Blacks commit the most murders in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

No, you're being quantitatively fallacious, which is actually a real fallacy unlike your definition. We are a minority and it would have to be an insanely high rate (almost 100% in many cases) for us to actually outnumber the amount of white people that are doing anything.

As for the serial killers. The FBI says that there are around 100 serial killers in America at one time, by their definition. They aren't counting the folks in Chicago. You know the difference as well as I.

(08-04-2013 03:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:04 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

No..I am being stone cold serious. The worst MOFOs I have ever encountered were white. Ever wonder why serial killers are almost all white? We are the worst.

Who commits the most violent crime in America? Whites or Blacks?

Whites. The only mass murder I can think of was the DC kid. Damn near every time someone goes postal...they are white. Tim McVeigh was fine fellow.

Wrong, Blacks commit the most murders in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

We're talking mass and serial murder here. None of those count.

(08-04-2013 03:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:04 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

No..I am being stone cold serious. The worst MOFOs I have ever encountered were white. Ever wonder why serial killers are almost all white? We are the worst.

Who commits the most violent crime in America? Whites or Blacks?

Whites. The only mass murder I can think of was the DC kid. Damn near every time someone goes postal...they are white. Tim McVeigh was fine fellow.

Wrong, Blacks commit the most murders in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Name one AA that killed more than 169 people at one sitting or in total. You are from Okla. You know what I am talking about. Stop trying to change the narrative to suit your argument. I was talking about mass murderers.

(08-04-2013 03:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:00 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.
2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.
3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

Quote:1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.

False. Drug use among black adults is above the national average
http://www.samhsa.gov/obhe/african-american.aspx

Quote:2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.

This makes no sense whatsoever. Blacks still commit the most murders in the United States. Are gang members in Chicago that kill often not also serial killer. What a dumb*** comparison.

Quote:3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

What's your point? Is meth somehow worse than crack?

There are your facts.

Native American youth fared worst, with 15% having a substance use disorder, compared to 9.2% for people of mixed racial heritage, 9.0% for whites, 7.7% for Hispanics, 5% for African Americans and 3.5% for Asians and Pacific Islanders.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/07/st...z2b27uGAbx

You need to also figure out the definition for the term, "serial killer".

My point was that you were comparing apples to oranges. Meth was what he was talking about, not crack cocaine.

But if you want to talk about cocaine which race abuses cocaine more? I don't know the answer, but separating powder from crack skews your results. There are a lot of wealth folks tooting cocaine and it is just as bad.

Christopher Dorner was such a nice guy. A liberal black man get passed over by the media.

(08-04-2013 03:14 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

No, you're being quantitatively fallacious, which is actually a real fallacy unlike your definition. We are a minority and it would have to be an insanely high rate (almost 100% in many cases) for us to actually outnumber the amount of white people that are doing anything.

As for the serial killers. The FBI says that there are around 100 serial killers in America at one time, by their definition. They aren't counting the folks in Chicago. You know the difference as well as I.

Blacks commit the most murders in America. Your high profile serial killers don't even scratch the surface when compared to the number of murders committed by young black males in places like Chicago.

How are the people committing murders in Chicago not as bad as a serial killer when they commit multiple murders?

The likelihood of falling victim to crime relates to both demographic and geographic characteristics.[5] Overall, men, minorities, the young, and those in urban areas are more likely to be crime victims.[5] The likelihood of perpetrating crime also relates to demography. "Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks," according to an analysis of crime statistics called The Color of Crime.[6] The vast majority of interracial crime in America is black against white.[7] Also, the group Human Rights Watch has reported that much of the rape in prison is black against white.[8] "Overall, our correspondence and interviews with white, black, and Hispanic inmates convince us that white inmates are disproportionately targeted for abuse," reported Human Rights Watch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

I know it's a hard pill to swallow. Instead of calling people like Bill O'Reilly racists, search for solutions. Start speaking out against the race hucksters that make blacks see themselves as inadequate. Speak out against all the vile and blatant violence being fed to young minorities in the entertainment business.

And on that note, whites that participate in that type of violent glorification are part of the problem.

(08-04-2013 03:18 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:04 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No..I am being stone cold serious. The worst MOFOs I have ever encountered were white. Ever wonder why serial killers are almost all white? We are the worst.

Who commits the most violent crime in America? Whites or Blacks?

Whites. The only mass murder I can think of was the DC kid. Damn near every time someone goes postal...they are white. Tim McVeigh was fine fellow.

Wrong, Blacks commit the most murders in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

We're talking mass and serial murder here. None of those count.

A list of black serial killers:

Quote:Black Serial/Mass/Spree Killer List:
1. Matthew Emanuel Macon (Murdered and Raped 5 White Women in Lansing)
2. Jimmie Reed (Murdered his wife and his 2 month old daughter and set them on fire)
3. Shelly Brooks (Murdered 7 prostitutes in Detroit Cass Corridor)
4. Justin Blackshere (Stabbed two white cooks at Cheli’s Chili downtown Detroit)
5. Jervon Miguel Coleman (Murdered three people.)
6. Donell Ramon Johnson (Murdered a mother and a daughter)
7. Brian Ranard Davis (6 women known murdered by ******)
8. Paul Durousseau (Seven women)
9. Mark Goudeau “The Baseline Killer” (Eight women and a man in 2005-2006)
10. Coral Eugene Watts (11 women in Texas & 1 in Michigan)
11. Anthony McKnight (Five girls and young women)
12. Derrick Todd Lee (8 Women)
13. Charles Lendelle Carter (4 known murders; admits to ‘hunting’ Atlantans for 15 years!)
14. The Zebra Killings (71 White people)
15. Chester Turner (L.A.s most prolific killer 12 women killed.)
16. Lorenzo J. Gilyard (Kansas City, MO.—13 victims)
17. Eugene Victor Britt (Gary, IN.–3 known murder/rapes.)
18. Reginald and Jonathan Carr (The Wichita Massacre–6 Whites murdered)
19. Ray Joseph Dandridge and his uncle, Ricky Gevon Gray (Richmond, VA.–Murdered 7 people in 7 days, including an entire White family.)
20. The Tinley Park Murderer (Suspect hasn’t been found but has been described as black – murdered 5 women in a store.)
21. Henry Louis Wallace (Raped and strangled 5 women to death.)
22. Charles Johnston (Murdered 3 unarmed white men in hospital)
23. Craig Price (Brutally murdered 3 women)
24. Harrison Graham (Brually Murdered 3 women)
25. Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton (Murdered 6 Whites at the Kirkwood, MO. city council. )
26. & 27. Darnell Hartsfeld & Romeo Pinkerton (Abducted and Murdered 5 from a restaurant)
28 &29. John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo (Sniped 11 people from a car in DC, 9 died.)
30. George Russell (3 women, WA state)
31. Timothy W. Spencer (5 killed, Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA)
32. Elton M. Jackson (12 gay men killed, Norfolk, VA area)
33. Carlton Gary (3 killed in Columbus, GA)
34. Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women, Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.)
35. Kendall Francois (8 women, Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.)
36. Terry A. Blair (8 women, Kansas City area)
37. Wayne Williams (33 many of them children!, Atlanta, GA)
38. Vaughn Greenwood (11 killed in LA)
39. Andre Crawford (10 killed in Chicago – southside)
40. Calvin Jackson (9 killed possibley more in NY)
41. Gregory Klepper (killed 8, Chicago – southside)
42. Alton Coleman (Killed 8 in the Midwest)
43. Harrison Graham (killed 7+ in N. Philadelphia)
44. Cleophus Prince (6 killed in, San Diego
45. Robert Rozier (7 killed in, Miami)
46. Maurice Byrd (killed 20 + in St. Louis)
47. Maury Travis (17 and rising, St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta)
48. Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (killed 20+ in Florida)
49. Lorenzo Fayne (killed 5 children in East St. Louis, IL)
50. Paul Durousseau, (killed 6, two of which were pregnant women, Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.)
51. Eddie Lee Mosley (killed 25 to 30 women, south Florida)
52. Henry Lee Jones (killed 4 in, south Florida; Bartlett, TN)
53. Richard “Babyface” Jameswhite (15 killed in, New York; Georgia.)
54. Donald E. Younge, Jr. (killed 4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
55. Ivan Hill (killed 6 in Los Angeles area).
56. Michael Vernon (Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people – )
57. Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women killed in, Los Angeles)

I will admit to the stereotype of a serial killer is that he's a white man. That could be because there are more whites than blacks, or because the media gives their victims more press coverage, or just maybe the per capita number of serial killers is the same for everyone.

(08-04-2013 03:23 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Christopher Dorner was such a nice guy. A liberal black man get passed over by the media.

Didn't the media show like a the entire manhunt?

Can you guys PLEASE stop posting in the Black facts thread!!! We need this white facts thread to win. Every time you post Black facts thread is above White facts thread. We can't let this happen. Thank you.

(08-04-2013 03:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:00 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.
2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.
3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

Quote:1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.

False. Drug use among black adults is above the national average
http://www.samhsa.gov/obhe/african-american.aspx

Quote:2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.

This makes no sense whatsoever. Blacks still commit the most murders in the United States. Are gang members in Chicago that kill often not also serial killer. What a dumb*** comparison.

Quote:3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

What's your point? Is meth somehow worse than crack?

There are your facts.

Native American youth fared worst, with 15% having a substance use disorder, compared to 9.2% for people of mixed racial heritage, 9.0% for whites, 7.7% for Hispanics, 5% for African Americans and 3.5% for Asians and Pacific Islanders.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/07/st...z2b27uGAbx

You need to also figure out the definition for the term, "serial killer".

My point was that you were comparing apples to oranges. Meth was what he was talking about, not crack cocaine.

But if you want to talk about cocaine which race abuses cocaine more? I don't know the answer, but separating powder from crack skews your results. There are a lot of wealth folks tooting cocaine and it is just as bad.

So what? None of this changes the cold hard statistics. We are not talking about Native Americans. You wanted to compare black to white. There you go. We did.

Black gang members committing multiple murders ARE serial killers. They just get no play in the media. The liberal narrative has been exposed. Facts are facts. Blacks commit the most murders in America. Blacks take drugs more often than whites. Blacks have more mental issues related to drug use compared to whites.

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:18 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:04 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Who commits the most violent crime in America? Whites or Blacks?

Whites. The only mass murder I can think of was the DC kid. Damn near every time someone goes postal...they are white. Tim McVeigh was fine fellow.

Wrong, Blacks commit the most murders in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

We're talking mass and serial murder here. None of those count.

A list of black serial killers:

Quote:Black Serial/Mass/Spree Killer List:
1. Matthew Emanuel Macon (Murdered and Raped 5 White Women in Lansing)
2. Jimmie Reed (Murdered his wife and his 2 month old daughter and set them on fire)
3. Shelly Brooks (Murdered 7 prostitutes in Detroit Cass Corridor)
4. Justin Blackshere (Stabbed two white cooks at Cheli’s Chili downtown Detroit)
5. Jervon Miguel Coleman (Murdered three people.)
6. Donell Ramon Johnson (Murdered a mother and a daughter)
7. Brian Ranard Davis (6 women known murdered by ******)
8. Paul Durousseau (Seven women)
9. Mark Goudeau “The Baseline Killer” (Eight women and a man in 2005-2006)
10. Coral Eugene Watts (11 women in Texas & 1 in Michigan)
11. Anthony McKnight (Five girls and young women)
12. Derrick Todd Lee (8 Women)
13. Charles Lendelle Carter (4 known murders; admits to ‘hunting’ Atlantans for 15 years!)
14. The Zebra Killings (71 White people)
15. Chester Turner (L.A.s most prolific killer 12 women killed.)
16. Lorenzo J. Gilyard (Kansas City, MO.—13 victims)
17. Eugene Victor Britt (Gary, IN.–3 known murder/rapes.)
18. Reginald and Jonathan Carr (The Wichita Massacre–6 Whites murdered)
19. Ray Joseph Dandridge and his uncle, Ricky Gevon Gray (Richmond, VA.–Murdered 7 people in 7 days, including an entire White family.)
20. The Tinley Park Murderer (Suspect hasn’t been found but has been described as black – murdered 5 women in a store.)
21. Henry Louis Wallace (Raped and strangled 5 women to death.)
22. Charles Johnston (Murdered 3 unarmed white men in hospital)
23. Craig Price (Brutally murdered 3 women)
24. Harrison Graham (Brually Murdered 3 women)
25. Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton (Murdered 6 Whites at the Kirkwood, MO. city council. )
26. & 27. Darnell Hartsfeld & Romeo Pinkerton (Abducted and Murdered 5 from a restaurant)
28 &29. John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo (Sniped 11 people from a car in DC, 9 died.)
30. George Russell (3 women, WA state)
31. Timothy W. Spencer (5 killed, Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA)
32. Elton M. Jackson (12 gay men killed, Norfolk, VA area)
33. Carlton Gary (3 killed in Columbus, GA)
34. Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women, Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.)
35. Kendall Francois (8 women, Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.)
36. Terry A. Blair (8 women, Kansas City area)
37. Wayne Williams (33 many of them children!, Atlanta, GA)
38. Vaughn Greenwood (11 killed in LA)
39. Andre Crawford (10 killed in Chicago – southside)
40. Calvin Jackson (9 killed possibley more in NY)
41. Gregory Klepper (killed 8, Chicago – southside)
42. Alton Coleman (Killed 8 in the Midwest)
43. Harrison Graham (killed 7+ in N. Philadelphia)
44. Cleophus Prince (6 killed in, San Diego
45. Robert Rozier (7 killed in, Miami)
46. Maurice Byrd (killed 20 + in St. Louis)
47. Maury Travis (17 and rising, St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta)
48. Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (killed 20+ in Florida)
49. Lorenzo Fayne (killed 5 children in East St. Louis, IL)
50. Paul Durousseau, (killed 6, two of which were pregnant women, Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.)
51. Eddie Lee Mosley (killed 25 to 30 women, south Florida)
52. Henry Lee Jones (killed 4 in, south Florida; Bartlett, TN)
53. Richard “Babyface” Jameswhite (15 killed in, New York; Georgia.)
54. Donald E. Younge, Jr. (killed 4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
55. Ivan Hill (killed 6 in Los Angeles area).
56. Michael Vernon (Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people – )
57. Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women killed in, Los Angeles)

I will admit to the stereotype of a serial killer is that he's a white man. That could be because there are more whites than blacks, or because the media gives their victims more press coverage, or just maybe the per capita number of serial killers is the same for everyone.

Forgot about Wayne Williams. I remember everyone being shocked to find out he was black.

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:14 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

No, you're being quantitatively fallacious, which is actually a real fallacy unlike your definition. We are a minority and it would have to be an insanely high rate (almost 100% in many cases) for us to actually outnumber the amount of white people that are doing anything.

As for the serial killers. The FBI says that there are around 100 serial killers in America at one time, by their definition. They aren't counting the folks in Chicago. You know the difference as well as I.

Blacks commit the most murders in America. Your high profile serial killers don't even scratch the surface when compared to the number of murders committed by young black males in places like Chicago.

How are the people committing murders in Chicago not as bad as a serial killer when they commit multiple murders?

The likelihood of falling victim to crime relates to both demographic and geographic characteristics.[5] Overall, men, minorities, the young, and those in urban areas are more likely to be crime victims.[5] The likelihood of perpetrating crime also relates to demography. "Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks," according to an analysis of crime statistics called The Color of Crime.[6] The vast majority of interracial crime in America is black against white.[7] Also, the group Human Rights Watch has reported that much of the rape in prison is black against white.[8] "Overall, our correspondence and interviews with white, black, and Hispanic inmates convince us that white inmates are disproportionately targeted for abuse," reported Human Rights Watch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

I know it's a hard pill to swallow. Instead of calling people like Bill O'Reilly racists, search for solutions. Start speaking out against the race hucksters that make blacks see themselves as inadequate. Speak out against all the vile and blatant violence being fed to young minorities in the entertainment business.

And on that note, whites that participate in that type of violent glorification are part of the problem.

Who's called Bill O'Reilly racist? Not me. Don't attribute that to me.

Serial killers don't scratch the surface as far as numbers, but I believe there would be an American consensus to say that mass murderers and serial killers are worse people than your run of the mill killer. That's why I put it there to enforce Fo's point.

(08-04-2013 03:29 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:00 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  All of these are false. Compare drug use among blacks and whites.

Compare murder rates between black and white offenders.

Serial killers? How about all the serial killers in Chicago. Are they white or black, or are you just talking about the high profile serial killers that are only talked about because they are white.

So you think there are more white meth users than black crack users?

You just can't help but post fallacy after fallacy after fallacy.

1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.
2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.
3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

Quote:1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.

False. Drug use among black adults is above the national average
http://www.samhsa.gov/obhe/african-american.aspx

Quote:2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.

This makes no sense whatsoever. Blacks still commit the most murders in the United States. Are gang members in Chicago that kill often not also serial killer. What a dumb*** comparison.

Quote:3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

What's your point? Is meth somehow worse than crack?

There are your facts.

Native American youth fared worst, with 15% having a substance use disorder, compared to 9.2% for people of mixed racial heritage, 9.0% for whites, 7.7% for Hispanics, 5% for African Americans and 3.5% for Asians and Pacific Islanders.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/07/st...z2b27uGAbx

You need to also figure out the definition for the term, "serial killer".

My point was that you were comparing apples to oranges. Meth was what he was talking about, not crack cocaine.

But if you want to talk about cocaine which race abuses cocaine more? I don't know the answer, but separating powder from crack skews your results. There are a lot of wealth folks tooting cocaine and it is just as bad.

So what? None of this changes the cold hard statistics. We are not talking about Native Americans. You wanted to compare black to white. There you go. We did.

Black gang members committing multiple murders ARE serial killers. They just get no play in the media. The liberal narrative has been exposed. Facts are facts. Blacks commit the most murders in America. Blacks take drugs more often than whites. Blacks have more mental issues related to drug use compared to whites.

They aren't serial killers. You can't just go making up a definition for serial killer so you can win this argument.

This is from the CDC. It believe it's generally accepted that black on black murder is in the high 90 percent range of all black murders. This chart shows a problem within the black community that is in urgent need of a fix. it's also telling that blacks kill each other at an alarming rate yet the nation was focused on Zimmerman.



http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/yo...-race.html

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

LOL, truth. I've often thought the same thing. Whites are crazier but blacks are more dangerous as a whole. When me and most people refer to the black community we're talking about the inner city uneducated blacks that mostly live clustered together in and around the ghetto. The world would be a better place if they disappeared along with their white, Asian, and Latino brethren.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

(08-04-2013 04:02 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

LOL, truth. I've often thought the same thing. Whites are crazier but blacks are more dangerous as a whole. When me and most people refer to the black community we're talking about the inner city uneducated blacks that mostly live clustered together in and around the ghetto. The world would be a better place if they disappeared along with their white, Asian, and Latino brethren.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

I still stand on my original statement. We are the worst.

(08-04-2013 04:08 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 04:02 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  White people are the worst. There is no denying that if you find the sorriest SOB on the planet..he will be white.

What a dumb statement. I really hope you are being sarcastic.

I don't want to offend the other white guys on this board. I'm sorry FO, dawg, firm, Robert, GTS, SOAF, and others, BUT:

If I were to look for the most strung-out meth head in America, he would be white. 71% so in fact.

If I were to look for a person who committed mass murder in America, he would probably be white.

If there were someone to kill their entire family, he'd probably be white.

If someone were a serial killer in America, he'd probably be white.

Those are all attributes of a sorry man.

LOL, truth. I've often thought the same thing. Whites are crazier but blacks are more dangerous as a whole. When me and most people refer to the black community we're talking about the inner city uneducated blacks that mostly live clustered together in and around the ghetto. The world would be a better place if they disappeared along with their white, Asian, and Latino brethren.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

I still stand on my original statement. We are the worst.

Agree to disagree

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

(08-04-2013 03:34 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:29 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:00 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.
2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.
3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

Quote:1. We (whites) abuse drugs at a higher rate then blacks. It isn't a big difference but the fact is as a % we do.

False. Drug use among black adults is above the national average
http://www.samhsa.gov/obhe/african-american.aspx

Quote:2. Most serial killers are white. It is a fact. Black on black murders in Chicago or anywhere regardless of race for that matter aren't generally speaking "serial killings". One of the few black serial killers would be the guy in Atlanta years ago.

This makes no sense whatsoever. Blacks still commit the most murders in the United States. Are gang members in Chicago that kill often not also serial killer. What a dumb*** comparison.

Quote:3. He didn't say anything about crack. He was talking about meth.

What's your point? Is meth somehow worse than crack?

There are your facts.

Native American youth fared worst, with 15% having a substance use disorder, compared to 9.2% for people of mixed racial heritage, 9.0% for whites, 7.7% for Hispanics, 5% for African Americans and 3.5% for Asians and Pacific Islanders.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/07/st...z2b27uGAbx

You need to also figure out the definition for the term, "serial killer".

My point was that you were comparing apples to oranges. Meth was what he was talking about, not crack cocaine.

But if you want to talk about cocaine which race abuses cocaine more? I don't know the answer, but separating powder from crack skews your results. There are a lot of wealth folks tooting cocaine and it is just as bad.

So what? None of this changes the cold hard statistics. We are not talking about Native Americans. You wanted to compare black to white. There you go. We did.

Black gang members committing multiple murders ARE serial killers. They just get no play in the media. The liberal narrative has been exposed. Facts are facts. Blacks commit the most murders in America. Blacks take drugs more often than whites. Blacks have more mental issues related to drug use compared to whites.

They aren't serial killers. You can't just go making up a definition for serial killer so you can win this argument.

What a ridiculous statement. Do you realize how ridiculous that is? Does it really matter? Your definition of serial killers are NOT committing the most murders?

From the Princeton Educational Dictionary

Serial Killer

Noun. someone who murders more than three victims one at a time in a relatively short interval.

As if that's not happening in Chicago almost nightly.