(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  There are no barriers that stop blacks from being successful.

and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 01:41 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 12:08 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Slavery, Jim Crow, unequal laws/penalties for the same offenses poverty, crappy schools, unsafe communities, etc.

I agree that barriers exist and I don't have the answers to how to solve the problems. It is sad to even be talking about this after all we have tried to do to solve them.

What is so hard about going to school..behaving and putting forth one's best? What is so hard about being a good neighbor to each other. People everywhere have figured this stuff out. Why is this so hard in some places? It boggles my mind. I don't have the answers

Look what you just agreed to. Barriers do not exist. Slavery and Jim Crow laws are a thing of the past. We do not have laws designed just for blacks, and our school systems suck across the board. Don't ever allow these liberals to sneak these fallacies into the argument. That's how they change the narrative.

Of course barriers still exist. To say otherwise is would mean the racism does not exist. It is easy to sit here and say that people should pull themselves up by their boot straps...but..I never have had anyone piss on me because I have fair skin. It is not that simple. Have we come a long way?..Yes....but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that the world is all rainbows and unicorns when it comes to this issue.

Dude, spare me please. You sound like every other self loathing, guilty white liberal on the planet. You cannot see how your apologetic manner just throws more gasoline on the race issue.

Fo? Liberal? Our resident Anarcho-Capitalist?

(08-04-2013 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  There are no barriers that stop blacks from being successful.

and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

Stop being silly Okie. You know damn well WTF I was talking about. I did not think it was necessary to talk about the things on that list that do not exist anymore. Evidently I was mistaken. Carry on.

(08-04-2013 03:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 02:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 01:41 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I agree that barriers exist and I don't have the answers to how to solve the problems. It is sad to even be talking about this after all we have tried to do to solve them.

What is so hard about going to school..behaving and putting forth one's best? What is so hard about being a good neighbor to each other. People everywhere have figured this stuff out. Why is this so hard in some places? It boggles my mind. I don't have the answers

Look what you just agreed to. Barriers do not exist. Slavery and Jim Crow laws are a thing of the past. We do not have laws designed just for blacks, and our school systems suck across the board. Don't ever allow these liberals to sneak these fallacies into the argument. That's how they change the narrative.

Of course barriers still exist. To say otherwise is would mean the racism does not exist. It is easy to sit here and say that people should pull themselves up by their boot straps...but..I never have had anyone piss on me because I have fair skin. It is not that simple. Have we come a long way?..Yes....but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that the world is all rainbows and unicorns when it comes to this issue.

Dude, spare me please. You sound like every other self loathing, guilty white liberal on the planet. You cannot see how your apologetic manner just throws more gasoline on the race issue.

Fo? Liberal? Our resident Anarcho-Capitalist?

I suppose it is the Liberal part of being a Classical Liberal? Whatever. I know the smell of BS when it wafts my direction.

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  There are no barriers that stop blacks from being successful.

and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

Stop being silly Okie. You know damn well WTF I was talking about. I did not think it was necessary to talk about the things on that list that do not exist anymore. Evidently I was mistaken. Carry on.

No I really don't. I graduated college with a slough of blacks. Many of them were on the honor roll. I still see many of them in my field holding prominent positions. You know what they did? They got a scholarship, went to class everyday, did their homework, found like minded people(people of all color), graduated college and put themselves out there.

They didn't join a gang, roll a blunt, wear their pants half off their ass or present themselves as misfits of society. They saw themselves as equal and succeeded. None of them were slaves, none of them endured Jim Crow, and most of them would tell you to stop bringing the race issue back into the forefront.

(08-04-2013 03:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  There are no barriers that stop blacks from being successful.

and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

Stop being silly Okie. You know damn well WTF I was talking about. I did not think it was necessary to talk about the things on that list that do not exist anymore. Evidently I was mistaken. Carry on.

No I really don't. I graduated college with a slough of blacks. Many of them were on the honor roll. I still see many of them in my field holding prominent positions. You know what they did? They got a scholarship, went to class everyday, did their homework, found like minded people(people of all color), graduated college and put themselves out there.

They didn't join a gang, roll a blunt, wear their pants half off their ass or present themselves as misfits of society. They saw themselves as equal and succeeded. None of them were slaves, none of them endured Jim Crow, and most of them would tell you to stop bringing the race issue back into the forefront.

I'd also like it if the race issue wasn't always brought back into the forefront, but GD does it always end up coming up in these threads.

(08-04-2013 03:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  There are no barriers that stop blacks from being successful.

and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

Stop being silly Okie. You know damn well WTF I was talking about. I did not think it was necessary to talk about the things on that list that do not exist anymore. Evidently I was mistaken. Carry on.

No I really don't. I graduated college with a slough of blacks. Many of them were on the honor roll. I still see many of them in my field holding prominent positions. You know what they did? They got a scholarship, went to class everyday, did their homework, found like minded people(people of all color), graduated college and put themselves out there.

They didn't join a gang, roll a blunt, wear their pants half off their ass or present themselves as misfits of society. They saw themselves as equal and succeeded. None of them were slaves, none of them endured Jim Crow, and most of them would tell you to stop bringing the race issue back into the forefront.

I congratulate those that have figured out how to be successful by doing the right things to get there. That does not change the fact racism still exists and is a barrier. Less than in the past..but..still there.

(08-04-2013 03:39 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

Stop being silly Okie. You know damn well WTF I was talking about. I did not think it was necessary to talk about the things on that list that do not exist anymore. Evidently I was mistaken. Carry on.

No I really don't. I graduated college with a slough of blacks. Many of them were on the honor roll. I still see many of them in my field holding prominent positions. You know what they did? They got a scholarship, went to class everyday, did their homework, found like minded people(people of all color), graduated college and put themselves out there.

They didn't join a gang, roll a blunt, wear their pants half off their ass or present themselves as misfits of society. They saw themselves as equal and succeeded. None of them were slaves, none of them endured Jim Crow, and most of them would tell you to stop bringing the race issue back into the forefront.

I'd also like it if the race issue wasn't always brought back into the forefront, but GD does it always end up coming up in these threads.

I agree. Mods..close this thread please.

(08-04-2013 03:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  and that folks is the final word on this subject.

When you can show us the barriers, we'll talk. Stop dumbing us all down with crap like Jim Crow laws. Do they still have a blacks indoors after dark law in your town?

Stop being silly Okie. You know damn well WTF I was talking about. I did not think it was necessary to talk about the things on that list that do not exist anymore. Evidently I was mistaken. Carry on.

No I really don't. I graduated college with a slough of blacks. Many of them were on the honor roll. I still see many of them in my field holding prominent positions. You know what they did? They got a scholarship, went to class everyday, did their homework, found like minded people(people of all color), graduated college and put themselves out there.

They didn't join a gang, roll a blunt, wear their pants half off their ass or present themselves as misfits of society. They saw themselves as equal and succeeded. None of them were slaves, none of them endured Jim Crow, and most of them would tell you to stop bringing the race issue back into the forefront.

I congratulate those that have figured out how to be successful by doing the right things to get there. That does not change the fact racism still exists and is a barrier. Less than in the past..but..still there.

I agree that racism is still there. It will probably always be there. It's also not just whites against blacks. Blacks are racists against whites. Hispanics are racist against Blacks and so on. However, those barriers that kept blacks down are no longer there. The doctor has cleared them to go home. All that is needed is for many in the black community to take off the bandages and let air completely heal the wound.

I go by the individual. If you treat me right, I'm going to treat you that much better.

The whole points of these talks are about people exploiting the race issue, and there are people doing it that are black AND white.

(08-04-2013 03:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I congratulate those that have figured out how to be successful by doing the right things to get there. That does not change the fact racism still exists and is a barrier. Less than in the past..but..still there.

I disagree. There might be some degree of racism in small local businesses practiced by both whites and minorities, but corp America likes to show off how diverse they are and minorities often get preferential treatment in the hiring process and all ties go to them. You wouldn't believe the classes I've taken and what I've seen in companies like AT&T, Time Warner, and Comcast. Hell, AT&T used to send out monthly emails informing everyone as to how many minorities they hired by type - this many blacks, this many Hispanics, this many women, and so on. There was no number listing how many whites got hired.

To show you how diversity is playing out in corp America, how many commercials do you see with all kinds of different ethnicities in them? I saw a cereal commercial the other day with an interracial marriage in it. That is a conscience decision by the company to show diversity.

(08-04-2013 05:21 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 03:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I congratulate those that have figured out how to be successful by doing the right things to get there. That does not change the fact racism still exists and is a barrier. Less than in the past..but..still there.

I disagree. There might be some degree of racism in small local businesses practiced by both whites and minorities, but corp America likes to show off how diverse they are and minorities often get preferential treatment in the hiring process and all ties go to them. You wouldn't believe the classes I've taken and what I've seen in companies like AT&T, Time Warner, and Comcast. Hell, AT&T used to send out monthly emails informing everyone as to how many minorities they hired by type - this many blacks, this many Hispanics, this many women, and so on. There was no number listing how many whites got hired.

To show you how diversity is playing out in corp America, how many commercials do you see with all kinds of different ethnicities in them? I saw a cereal commercial the other day with an interracial marriage in it. That is a conscience decision by the company to show diversity.

Which I see as the true racism of today. Good intentions or not, this only reinforces the divide and creates a cynical view among minorities. If these companies and left wing loons had a better understanding of psychology, they would understand this actually makes minorities more angry.

Sometimes feel like I am living in Kenya after watching all the commercials.