It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

(05-15-2013 08:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Have no idea if they are even interested, especially since they are doing some cutbacks.
So you probably don't have anything to worry about. But who knows what the SB
presidents will do.
Why do you not want them so badly, you guys will leave the SB before they could get in?
Old state rivals?

We have been in the Sun Belt most of my life, I would hope the Sun Belt could do better than Eastern...Will still root for SB as long as our CUSA teams are not playing you guys...They used to be rivals about 20 years ago, but much like MTSU, its been mainly a one side rivalry in basketball...EKU dominated in football until the 90s when we started beating them reguarly in football..

(05-15-2013 08:22 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  With the new conference payout rules, if CUSA lost two, I would bet they stay at 12.

Bet they don't. Bet they went to 14 to appease TV.

(05-15-2013 07:30 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Seems ODU AD Wood Selig is opposed to CUSA expansion.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned....1&f=742791

No shock to me. I've said before that JMU would be a deal buster. Adding JMU doesn't fix the UAB issue and the UAB issue isn't his problem

(05-15-2013 08:37 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Have no idea if they are even interested, especially since they are doing some cutbacks.
So you probably don't have anything to worry about. But who knows what the SB
presidents will do.
Why do you not want them so badly, you guys will leave the SB before they could get in?
Old state rivals?

We have been in the Sun Belt most of my life, I would hope the Sun Belt could do better than Eastern...Will still root for SB as long as our CUSA teams are not playing you guys...They used to be rivals about 20 years ago, but much like MTSU, its been mainly a one side rivalry in basketball...EKU dominated in football until the 90s when we started beating them reguarly in football..

Who knows, you may never see them in FBS.
Unless you see them in next week.
Which is doubtful probably.

In the Winston-Salem paper today it talks about Appalachian administrators going to the SB meetings which start Sunday in Destin, Fla this comment appears:

It seems Karl Benson, the Sun Belt’s commissioner, said that he expects any announcement involving Sun Belt membership would happen next Wednesday when the meetings wrap up.s if any SB announcement is made it will come next Wednesday.

(05-15-2013 08:45 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  In the Winston-Salem paper today it talks about Appalachian administrators going to the SB meetings which start Sunday in Destin, Fla this comment appears:

It seems Karl Benson, the Sun Belt’s commissioner, said that he expects any announcement involving Sun Belt membership would happen next Wednesday when the meetings wrap up.s if any SB announcement is made it will come next Wednesday.

Which with you guys and us going through it means probably whatever the opposite is.

(05-15-2013 07:30 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Seems ODU AD Wood Selig is opposed to CUSA expansion.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned....1&f=742791

With payouts capped at 12 members, it will be much harder to support expanding beyond 12. Adding more is taking money out of your pocket.

I would assume since we are not actually in the SB until July 1 of next year that we will have no real voting rights as to new members at this point.

(05-15-2013 09:13 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I would assume since we are not actually in the SB until July 1 of next year that we will have no real voting rights as to new members at this point.

Pretty sure you will. Karl told both of us that we would on matters that affect the future of the conference remember.

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

(05-15-2013 09:13 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 07:30 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Seems ODU AD Wood Selig is opposed to CUSA expansion.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned....1&f=742791

With payouts capped at 12 members, it will be much harder to support expanding beyond 12. Adding more is taking money out of your pocket.

I agree. The ACC's GOR agreement changed everything for everybody. If CUSA is going to go to 16, I wish they'd go ahead and do it already. If they're not, then I wish they'd come out and definitively state that they have no intentions of expanding. We're all sick of the realignment roller coaster we've been on.

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

JMU is not off the table at all, regardless how much you wish it to be true.

Sorry man, it's just not gonna happen.

(05-15-2013 10:10 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

JMU is not off the table at all, regardless how much you wish it to be true.

Sorry man, it's just not gonna happen.

Link about JMU moving?

(05-15-2013 10:10 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

JMU is not off the table at all, regardless how much you wish it to be true.

Sorry man, it's just not gonna happen.

We're not off the table. Not even close....if nothing is happening after 7/1, THEN people can start down that road. We're not leaving a couple million on the table with 45 days to go. Sorry!

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

When did the Big 12 expand?

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

(05-16-2013 08:18 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:10 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

JMU is not off the table at all, regardless how much you wish it to be true.

Sorry man, it's just not gonna happen.

We're not off the table. Not even close....if nothing is happening after 7/1, THEN people can start down that road. We're not leaving a couple million on the table with 45 days to go. Sorry!

Face It - JMU IS off the table. Probably for good.

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

Hope - Sounds half Obamaish.
Now if Change could be added - SB presidents might bite.
Good luck to LU. Got to say, your fans really want it.

I may not be in favor of LU -
but have to say would laugh myself sick about JMU's administration
causing them to miss out so easily and them staying FCS and LU being FBS.
Particularly if JMU didn't get into FBS for years due to 12 maximum conference money.

(05-15-2013 09:33 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  It seems the presidents are against Liberty and would rather stay at 11 than invite them. JMU and Missouri St. better think hard on this opportunity. It is a very real possibility there is 1 seat left at the FBS table-- the 12th SunBelt team.

I think now that JMU is def off the table for the upcoming round, a few of the Presidents will take a second look at LU. Do they want to be the only FBS conference without a Championship game? And then there is the looming possibility of a moratorium on movement. Add to that the dollars foraC'ship game and 1 or 2 fence sitters may be swayed.

The AJC's Doug Roberson made a good point via Twitter: "... As for Liberty, my take is the Flames may have financial resources that may be considered unfair by the other schools. That's just my opinion."
https://twitter.com/ajcgsu