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Come on, man. I wasn't saying that Muslims who disapproved were being prejudicial. I was saying you were being prejudicial by putting them in this role where they need to separate themselves from terrorists. You also said there is not hate speech on the right. A frequent fox news contributor tweeted that Muslims were evil and we should "kill 'em all." Things like that are the reason that people find it necessary to clarify that extremists make up a small minority of Muslims.

You're looking for a Muslim leader who condemns terrorism. Look up Farah Pandith's twitter.

Also when people on the news talk about right wing extremists, they are talking about hate groups like the Klan. No one groups all Republicans or Christians in with those groups. Your point seems to be that people are making an effort to make sure the public doesn't think all Muslims are terrorists, but why isn't anyone trying to clarify that all Republicans aren't terrorists. If a right wing group does something violent, people don't lump Jon McCain in with them, or at least not to the same extent that people lump Farah Pandith in with Islamic extremists. If a Christian group does something violent, Americans don't start to stereotype Christians as violent. There's a huge difference there.

(04-17-2013 06:59 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  You're forgetting about Dems in Red states who are up for re-election. That's his point.

Not $hit. Imagine that, a senator doing what his constituents want him to do.

So what you're saying is when a senator is in a position where he has to be accountable, i.e. up for reelection, he'll vote the way his constituents want, but when he's got 4 to 6 years before he's up for reelection he can vote however his party wants him to.

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Quote:A frequent fox news contributor tweeted that Muslims were evil and we should "kill 'em all."

Quote:Eric Rush is a columnist for Worldnutdaily and has previously been a guest on Fox News and CNN.

I watch Fox New all the time. I have never seen Eric Rush. And according the article I found he's not a contributor but was a guest at one time.

(04-17-2013 06:53 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 06:27 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

Quote:Note to Mr. Kristof. Senate Republicans are a minority, they haven't the power to block anything without the Dem majority joining them.

Really now? Explain that to us genious.

He's blaming it on Republicans in the Senate. Republicans in the senate are a minority. They can't pass or defeat anything without Democratic support. What aren't you following?

They can't? 45 Senators just killed the gun law, how'd that happen?

(04-18-2013 11:17 AM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 06:53 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 06:27 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

Quote:Note to Mr. Kristof. Senate Republicans are a minority, they haven't the power to block anything without the Dem majority joining them.

Really now? Explain that to us genious.

He's blaming it on Republicans in the Senate. Republicans in the senate are a minority. They can't pass or defeat anything without Democratic support. What aren't you following?

They can't? 45 Senators just killed the gun law, how'd that happen?

Tell me you're not this out of the loop politically. I'll speak s l o w l y.

Several Dems are up for reelection in states where hunting and guns are popular.

So these phony Dem senators have to vote what their constituents want otherwise they may lose. Once they have another 6 year term they can go back to being ultra libs and vote the way Reid and BO want them to.

You just contradicted yourself, you said they couldn't kill anything without help, but now you can't wiggle out of the procedure FACT that it takes 60 to ram something through. There are 45 GOP senators.

Glad I'm here to help you, figured you had sleept your way through fresman Poli Sci.

(04-18-2013 01:54 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  You just contradicted yourself, you said they couldn't kill anything without help, but now you can't wiggle out of the procedure FACT that it takes 60 to ram something through. There are 45 GOP senators.

Glad I'm here to help you, figured you had sleept your way through fresman Poli Sci.

Ohh lord. There are a 100 senators in the senate. Hence if all 45 GOP senators vote for something they still lose. Takes at least all of them plus 15 Dems.

I believe that the plan was for the Senate to pass it and then Obama could rail at the evil Republican controlled House for rejecting it. Seems that strategy backfired. Some Dem Senators would like to keep their jobs.

(04-18-2013 03:00 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 01:54 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  You just contradicted yourself, you said they couldn't kill anything without help, but now you can't wiggle out of the procedure FACT that it takes 60 to ram something through. There are 45 GOP senators.

Glad I'm here to help you, figured you had sleept your way through fresman Poli Sci.

Ohh lord. There are a 100 senators in the senate. Hence if all 45 GOP senators vote for something they still lose. Takes at least all of them plus 15 Dems.

What part don't you get Sam Drucker? This isn't your local yocal association meeting.

Quote:What part don't you get Sam Drucker? This isn't your local yocal association meeting.

^Speaking in pointless platitudes again.

It's simple. Explain how the Republicans are at fault for BO's unpopular gun bill going down to defeat. It's easy all he had to do was get his own people to goose step to his needs. It's not like they don't know how. They went against popular opinion with Obamacare. The cowards on the left simply vote their party and they win. Keeping their job always trumps standing on their principles.

^ You are babbling about Democrats not honoring their principles? This is becoming such a silly and stupid thread. Neither party has the market on honoring their principles or violating their principles, if they have any at all.

For example, Republican Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio was anti-gay marriage, that is until he found out his son was gay. Now he is pro gay marriage. It used to be that Billy Graham's ministry called the Mormon religion a "fringe religion", That is until Romney ran for president, and they decided that Mormonism was no longer a fringe religion.

Of course, those principles are violated across the isle as well by the Democrats.

(04-18-2013 04:00 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I believe that the plan was for the Senate to pass it and then Obama could rail at the evil Republican controlled House for rejecting it. Seems that strategy backfired. Some Dem Senators would like to keep their jobs.

Pretty much. The White House is betting 2014 mid-terms on bending over the House GOP over sequestration. I don't think it's going to work.

(04-18-2013 06:36 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 04:00 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I believe that the plan was for the Senate to pass it and then Obama could rail at the evil Republican controlled House for rejecting it. Seems that strategy backfired. Some Dem Senators would like to keep their jobs.

Pretty much. The White House is betting 2014 mid-terms on bending over the House GOP over sequestration. I don't think it's going to work.

The House is totally safe. He has no chance of turning it over.

The Senate is not looking all that good for B.O. and his do nothing Senate.

You know that 54 senators voted for expanded background checks, right? And it would have been 55, but Reid voted no for a procedural reason, so that it could be brought up again.

(04-18-2013 06:09 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

Quote:What part don't you get Sam Drucker? This isn't your local yocal association meeting.

^Speaking in pointless platitudes again.

It's simple. Explain how the Republicans are at fault for BO's unpopular gun bill going down to defeat. It's easy all he had to do was get his own people to goose step to his needs. It's not like they don't know how. They went against popular opinion with Obamacare. The cowards on the left simply vote their party and they win. Keeping their job always trumps standing on their principles.

Not the point deflection boy, you cited a procedure that simply isn't true regarding the majority being dems and they should be able to pass it, that wasn't the case at all. Regardless of the party line vote, the vote of 45 against holding it up proved you wrong. Nice try.

You're full of hot air and spin, no substance.

(04-18-2013 10:55 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 06:09 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

Quote:What part don't you get Sam Drucker? This isn't your local yocal association meeting.

^Speaking in pointless platitudes again.

It's simple. Explain how the Republicans are at fault for BO's unpopular gun bill going down to defeat. It's easy all he had to do was get his own people to goose step to his needs. It's not like they don't know how. They went against popular opinion with Obamacare. The cowards on the left simply vote their party and they win. Keeping their job always trumps standing on their principles.

Not the point deflection boy, you cited a procedure that simply isn't true regarding the majority being dems and they should be able to pass it, that wasn't the case at all. Regardless of the party line vote, the vote of 45 against holding it up proved you wrong. Nice try.

You're full of hot air and spin, no substance.

It sounds like now guns are involved in Boston. Thread is coming full circle?

Substances called "taggants" can be placed in explosives to allow their purchase location to be traced. More than 20 years ago the NRA successfully lobbied to exempt black powder from the use of these taggants. If that were allowed, most gun crimes could be traced to the purchase location of the ammo, which might help solve the crime, but could also lead to all kinds of liability issues for sellers.

Black powder was the explosive material in the Boston bombs.

Quote:Not the point deflection boy, you cited a procedure that simply isn't true regarding the majority being dems and they should be able to pass it, that wasn't the case at all. Regardless of the party line vote, the vote of 45 against holding it up proved you wrong. Nice try.

You're full of hot air and spin, no substance.

Hot air and spin: You know you're wrong but you simply can't admit it. In reading your original posts on this, I think you thought the Senate is made up of 60 senators rather than a 100.

The Senate majority is held by Dems. If they vote party line they CANT LOSE. If Republicans vote party line they can only win an issue with Dem support. Republicans haven't the votes to hold anything up.

You seem disappointed that some Dems broke ranks and actually voted their constituents wishes.

Ohhh shocker. The two loons in Boston are Muslims. The religion of peace. Geee, didn't see that coming.

Note to self: Look for bunches of libs to point out that this is only a tiny fraction of the Muslim community. Oddly, these same libs will impugn all Christians as bible thumping clones of Jerry Farwell. Even more odd is these same libs, who champion women and gay rights, will defend a religion that treats women like dogs, has executed people for being gay, and who have shown to outwardly hate America.

I am Catholic. Is Catholicism the religion of molesters? You've got too much time on your hands.