Quote:Two people familiar with the deal say the conference is closing in on a six-year contract with NBC Sports Network for football and basketball rights that will pay members around $20 million per year.

Quote:The deal being worked on would allow NBC Sports Network to move some Big East games to other networks.

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268753/content...d=eYDsSD1h

So......

$2 M per school (~$20M total)

6 Year contract (this is the total contract)

Includes both FB and BBall.

Includes the rights for NBC to move programming to other networks.

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So all the "it's a Bball only contract to only cover the cross over year, and there will be more contracts coming" is incorrect.


So when does Houston look to the MWC?

If true, that sucks for every school not in the top 5 conferences. The gap between the two groups of conferences is so large, it's damaging.

I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

(02-12-2013 10:48 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  So......

$2 M per school (~$20M total)

6 Year contract (this is the total contract)

Includes both FB and BBall.

Includes the rights for NBC to move programming to other networks.

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So all the "it's a Bball only contract to only cover the cross over year, and there will be more contracts coming" is incorrect.


So when does Houston look to the MWC?

Hopefully Renu is on the phone to Hair right now. The nBE is sitting low in the water and listing 45 degrees.

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

I'd go year to year.

I wonder if what has happened is NBC has told the BE that they will do this now, then after the 1st 2 year look-in clause really bump up the money, when they can do so w/o the threat of ESPN.

(02-12-2013 11:01 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I wonder if what has happened is NBC has told the BE that they will do this now, then after the 1st 2 year look-in clause really bump up the money, when they can do so w/o the threat of ESPN.

I doubt it. NBC has a history of promising alot and delievering very little. If its not in writing, it doesnt happen. Unless the look ins are tied to some concrete index, they will not result in increases. The MW had lookins and they never got one extra dime. What we need is an opt out clause with an escalator that overrides the opt out.

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

You're assuming that the offer per year would be anywhere near the same if it were for a shorter term - or that the offer would exist at all if it isn't for 6 years.

If there are no other offers (or none near this dollar amount) they really wouldn't have a lot of options.

(02-12-2013 11:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:01 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I wonder if what has happened is NBC has told the BE that they will do this now, then after the 1st 2 year look-in clause really bump up the money, when they can do so w/o the threat of ESPN.

I doubt it. NBC has a history of promising alot and delievering very little. If its not in writing, it doesnt happen. Unless the look ins are tied to some concrete index, they will not result in increases. The MW had lookins and they never got one extra dime.

NBC/Comcast was a horrible TV partner when they had a part of the mWc deal. They refused to reopen the deal at all and help the MWC try and keep BYU with some small concessions like letting BYU rebroadcast games after the live event. They would not even do that to help a partner.

NBC/Comcast helped rip up the MWC. May they rot in hell

(02-12-2013 11:30 PM)billings Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:01 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I wonder if what has happened is NBC has told the BE that they will do this now, then after the 1st 2 year look-in clause really bump up the money, when they can do so w/o the threat of ESPN.

I doubt it. NBC has a history of promising alot and delievering very little. If its not in writing, it doesnt happen. Unless the look ins are tied to some concrete index, they will not result in increases. The MW had lookins and they never got one extra dime.

NBC/Comcast was a horrible TV partner when they had a part of the mWc deal. They refused to reopen the deal at all and help the MWC try and keep BYU with some small concessions like letting BYU rebroadcast games after the live event. They would not even do that to help a partner.

NBC/Comcast helped rip up the MWC. May they rot in hell

attackcoog and billings nailed it. NBC is cheap. They won't pony up anything if they don't have to. Unless the look ins are specifically tied to ratings measures, the deal won't get any better as NBC has no incentive to increase the deal on their own. As for why 6 years, that's probably what it took to get to $20M/year. I'd almost wonder if the BE could be getting $15M/year if it went year-to-year.

But with this low of a deal, is it still fair that the incoming schools have to pay ANYTHING for an entrance fee? $2.5M seems awful steep to only get about $700K more per year.

(02-12-2013 11:29 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

You're assuming that the offer per year would be anywhere near the same if it were for a shorter term - or that the offer would exist at all if it isn't for 6 years.

If there are no other offers (or none near this dollar amount) they really wouldn't have a lot of options.

That dollar amount is trash. If it's going to be trash no matter what just let it be a little trashier and be shorter. I'd rather take 10 million a year for 2 or 3 years than 20 for 6.

(02-12-2013 11:42 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:29 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

You're assuming that the offer per year would be anywhere near the same if it were for a shorter term - or that the offer would exist at all if it isn't for 6 years.

If there are no other offers (or none near this dollar amount) they really wouldn't have a lot of options.

That dollar amount is trash. If it's going to be trash no matter what just let it be a little trashier and be shorter. I'd rather take 10 million a year for 2 or 3 years than 20 for 6.

I agree with that.

(02-12-2013 11:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:42 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:29 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

You're assuming that the offer per year would be anywhere near the same if it were for a shorter term - or that the offer would exist at all if it isn't for 6 years.

If there are no other offers (or none near this dollar amount) they really wouldn't have a lot of options.

That dollar amount is trash. If it's going to be trash no matter what just let it be a little trashier and be shorter. I'd rather take 10 million a year for 2 or 3 years than 20 for 6.

I agree with that.

And if NBC walks, you take what ESPN offers out of the goodness of its heart? No thanks. I'm just pointing out that there may be no interest on NBC's part to make any short term contract - at which point the BigEast 3.0 would be really really screwed. The topic may have already been discussed and rejected by NBC.

(02-12-2013 11:53 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:42 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:29 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

You're assuming that the offer per year would be anywhere near the same if it were for a shorter term - or that the offer would exist at all if it isn't for 6 years.

If there are no other offers (or none near this dollar amount) they really wouldn't have a lot of options.

That dollar amount is trash. If it's going to be trash no matter what just let it be a little trashier and be shorter. I'd rather take 10 million a year for 2 or 3 years than 20 for 6.

I agree with that.

And if NBC walks, you take what ESPN offers out of the goodness of its heart? No thanks. I'm just pointing out that there may be no interest on NBC's part to make any short term contract - at which point the BigEast 3.0 would be really really screwed. The topic may have already been discussed and rejected by NBC.

You don't present a deal to ESPN if you don't intend to accept it.

(02-12-2013 11:53 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:42 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:29 PM)nert Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 10:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't see why you would lock that deal up multi-year. There's no reason to do that.

You're assuming that the offer per year would be anywhere near the same if it were for a shorter term - or that the offer would exist at all if it isn't for 6 years.

If there are no other offers (or none near this dollar amount) they really wouldn't have a lot of options.

That dollar amount is trash. If it's going to be trash no matter what just let it be a little trashier and be shorter. I'd rather take 10 million a year for 2 or 3 years than 20 for 6.

I agree with that.

And if NBC walks, you take what ESPN offers out of the goodness of its heart? No thanks. I'm just pointing out that there may be no interest on NBC's part to make any short term contract - at which point the BigEast 3.0 would be really really screwed. The topic may have already been discussed and rejected by NBC.

Well, now that Ive ranted a bit, we probably should wait and see what the details are. The deal may have provisions that allow us to sell unused inventory like the MW/CBS-Sports deal does. If thats the case, there may be a little more revenue available. Also, im much more willing to deal with the crappy income if all the games are on TV and we get good weekley exposure on NBC-OTA. However, if its virtually all NBC-Sports and only a few games a week are even available on television---then this is would be a disaster.

That contract is a bucket full of fail.

Wow, this sucks. I feel bad for UCONN and UC, USF.

How the hell will those schools pay for their million dollar coaches?

(02-13-2013 01:36 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  Wow, this sucks. I feel bad for UCONN and UC, USF.

How the hell will those schools pay for their million dollar coaches?

Boo Hoo Hoo, they will have to learn to spend wisely facing the reduction in television revenue or raise more money from other sources. Really, this isn't like they were getting Big 5 money and downgraded. What was the BE paying from television 5 - 6 million? So they will lose 4 mill per year. On a 60 - 70 million budget, it isn't like that is the end of the world. Time to cut some fat.

This could help remove some of the motivation to move between the Gof5 conferences.