(10-03-2012 10:39 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 10:34 AM)garmen Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 09:40 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 09:02 AM)slappycajun Wrote:  The only way ULM gets New Orleans above bowl eligible Cajuns is if the bowl believes Warhawks will draw more fans.

Period. You guys applying motionsof fairness to the bowl system are barking up the wrong tree.

All things being equal and if both the Cajuns and Warhawks keep winning, it could be very interesting. I agree that the New Orleans Bowl liked all the fans that ULL brought last year and that would give them a leg up (closer for the fan base). I believe someone said that the Go Daddy Bowl has the first choice this year (is that correct?). I think the one thing that could make it very interesting would be if the school in Ruston was needing a bowl and the guesses are correct that the NO Bowl extended an offer. Do you bring two teams together that had a rivalry and the one refuses to play? That would be a draw. It would be better if that was in the Independence Bowl though.

Still a long time to go and many games left. Fun to speculate but, as our players have been saying, everyone just needs to concentrate on being 1-0 at the end of the week. Could be a banner year for the SBC (already is).

I just see no circumstances in which LTU will end up in New Orleans bowl. They will basically rip through whats left of WAC with 1, maybe 2 season losses and end up in Independance or another bowl of greater payout. If Independence Bowl was smart and wanted to fill the stadium, they would try a Tech/ULM match but just not sure if ESPN would like two in-state teams, presenting limited national interest from a geographic perspective. That is why the old Southwest Conference no longer exist.

I just don't see a circumstance in which LaTech will ever accept a bowl bid that pits it against ULM.

In fact, they would actively lobby against it.

In their mind, they have too much to lose.

I agree, the only fairness in the system is the "fair" amount of money that the bowl wants to obtain for itself.

I have come to grips with this. Some folks are still in denial.

Oh I agree that they would lobby hard against it just like they did before with ULL and ASU in the Independence Bowl. It would just be fun to see them all butthurt over having to play us. Well, starting 2014 they can't duck you anymore!!

(10-03-2012 10:55 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 10:39 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 10:34 AM)garmen Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 09:40 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 09:02 AM)slappycajun Wrote:  The only way ULM gets New Orleans above bowl eligible Cajuns is if the bowl believes Warhawks will draw more fans.

Period. You guys applying motionsof fairness to the bowl system are barking up the wrong tree.

All things being equal and if both the Cajuns and Warhawks keep winning, it could be very interesting. I agree that the New Orleans Bowl liked all the fans that ULL brought last year and that would give them a leg up (closer for the fan base). I believe someone said that the Go Daddy Bowl has the first choice this year (is that correct?). I think the one thing that could make it very interesting would be if the school in Ruston was needing a bowl and the guesses are correct that the NO Bowl extended an offer. Do you bring two teams together that had a rivalry and the one refuses to play? That would be a draw. It would be better if that was in the Independence Bowl though.

Still a long time to go and many games left. Fun to speculate but, as our players have been saying, everyone just needs to concentrate on being 1-0 at the end of the week. Could be a banner year for the SBC (already is).

I just see no circumstances in which LTU will end up in New Orleans bowl. They will basically rip through whats left of WAC with 1, maybe 2 season losses and end up in Independance or another bowl of greater payout. If Independence Bowl was smart and wanted to fill the stadium, they would try a Tech/ULM match but just not sure if ESPN would like two in-state teams, presenting limited national interest from a geographic perspective. That is why the old Southwest Conference no longer exist.

I just don't see a circumstance in which LaTech will ever accept a bowl bid that pits it against ULM.

In fact, they would actively lobby against it.

In their mind, they have too much to lose.

I agree, the only fairness in the system is the "fair" amount of money that the bowl wants to obtain for itself.

I have come to grips with this. Some folks are still in denial.

Oh I agree that they would lobby hard against it just like they did before with ULL and ASU in the Independence Bowl. It would just be fun to see them all butthurt over having to play us. Well, starting 2014 they can't duck you anymore!!

Well they could buy their way out of the games. Knowing their history, that scenario is very possible.

Didn't Neck go out to Boise one year, to avoid playing in the New Orleans Bowl against North Texas ?

Thus screwing an 8-3 MT a trip to a Bowl Game ?

The only thing that could hurt the Cajuns with the NO bowl is simply whether or not ULL fans will eventually get tired of such a close bowl location. ULL going to New Orleans would be like ASU going to Memphis, fans travel to the city all the time, and fewer dollars are spent in hotel fees.

My only question would be whether UL could continually bring 20K to the bowl.

(10-03-2012 11:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The only thing that could hurt the Cajuns with the NO bowl is simply whether or not ULL fans will eventually get tired of such a close bowl location. ULL going to New Orleans would be like ASU going to Memphis, fans travel to the city all the time, and fewer dollars are spent in hotel fees.

My only question would be whether UL could continually bring 20K to the bowl.

Ask Southern Miss fans how they feel about the New Orleans bowl... hard to imagine anyone tiring of making a short trip to a bowl game in a destination city, but it happens.

Another way that the Cajuns don't go to NO is if GoDaddy exercises it right to the #1 pick and takes UL. As I understand it, the first pick alternates between the NO and GoDaddy. This year is NO I believe so I agree that they get NO this year. I can only guess that Mobile was persuaded last year to take ASU over UL even though UL would have had a huge crowd in Mobile as well. I feel certain that the GoDaddy would love to have the Cajuns in town on the next round.

(10-03-2012 11:30 AM)trojans664 Wrote:  Another way that the Cajuns don't go to NO is if GoDaddy exercises it right to the #1 pick and takes UL. As I understand it, the first pick alternates between the NO and GoDaddy. This year is NO I believe so I agree that they get NO this year. I can only guess that Mobile was persuaded last year to take ASU over UL even though UL would have had a huge crowd in Mobile as well. I feel certain that the GoDaddy would love to have the Cajuns in town on the next round.

And I'd be just as happy to go to Mobile, no question.

(10-03-2012 11:34 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 11:30 AM)trojans664 Wrote:  Another way that the Cajuns don't go to NO is if GoDaddy exercises it right to the #1 pick and takes UL. As I understand it, the first pick alternates between the NO and GoDaddy. This year is NO I believe so I agree that they get NO this year. I can only guess that Mobile was persuaded last year to take ASU over UL even though UL would have had a huge crowd in Mobile as well. I feel certain that the GoDaddy would love to have the Cajuns in town on the next round.

And I'd be just as happy to go to Mobile, no question.

To the uninitiated, NOLA versus Mobile, seems like an obvious win for NOLA. I mean, it's hard to beat a few days in the crescent city.

But I've heard multiple MT fans, I'm not sure that I'm not one of them, say they had a better time in Mobile.

There's an excellent food/drink/entertainment culture in Mobile(not to the same level as New Orleans obviously, but it's pretty damn good) and at least for us, when we were in Mobile it felt a whole lot more that the city knew we were there and why we were there.

As a traveling fan base it's a little easier to get lost in the shuffle in New Orleans, especially if the Saints are in town that same weekend like they were for us(and undefeated and playing the Cowboys no less).

Had a blast in both and would be thrilled to return to either, but then, I had a blast in Detroit and while it's certainly nowhere near the top of my list of desirable bowl destinations, I'd do that trip again if I could afford it and figure it out with work.

(10-03-2012 11:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The only thing that could hurt the Cajuns with the NO bowl is simply whether or not ULL fans will eventually get tired of such a close bowl location. ULL going to New Orleans would be like ASU going to Memphis, fans travel to the city all the time, and fewer dollars are spent in hotel fees.

My only question would be whether UL could continually bring 20K to the bowl.

You mean 40k...

Okay, let's get some facts straight here.

The #1 pick does not alternate. The NO Bowl gets the #1 pick. Period. The only caveat is they must take the champion twice in a four year period.

If they don't take the champion this year, they MUST take the champion next year.

They are hoping the Cajuns win the league so they can have their cake and eat it too.

Conference standing, as we learned last year has absolutely NOTHING to do with the bowl selections...except under Sun Belt rules, the champion must be accomodated and NO has to take the champion twice in a four year period.

If you remember a couple of years ago, FIU and Troy tied for the championship. FIU beat Troy and became the automatic qualifier. New Orleans took Troy and fulfilled their obligation to take the league champion (Troy was a co champion.) godaddy chose Middle Tennessee and they could do that because the Sun Belt made arranagements to accomodate FIU in another bowl (Little Caesars).

Whoever wins the Sun Belt will play somewhere. We know that much.

After that, the bowls take the teams that are going to sell the tickets.

This business of WKU getting left out last year because they lost to an FCS school is bogus. WKU got left out because they weren't going to take fans to the bowl game.

Period.

WKU made a statement with their sellout crowd at home vs. Southern MIss. That will help them if they are in the at-large pool.

ULM made a statement with their sellout crowd at home vs. Baylor. That will help them if they are in the at-large pool.

But it is my opinion that NO will take a 6-6 Cajuns team over anyone else. And, the other schools, will be left to fight it out. If the Cajuns don't win the league, the champion probably goes to Mobile. It becomes a free for all after that.

(10-03-2012 12:40 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Okay, let's get some facts straight here.

The #1 pick does not alternate. The NO Bowl gets the #1 pick. Period. The only caveat is they must take the champion twice in a four year period.

This is the first I've ever heard anyone dispute New Orleans and GoDaddy alternating years of having the first pick of bowl eligible SBC schools. I thought that was pretty much a known fact.

(10-03-2012 11:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The only thing that could hurt the Cajuns with the NO bowl is simply whether or not ULL fans will eventually get tired of such a close bowl location. ULL going to New Orleans would be like ASU going to Memphis, fans travel to the city all the time, and fewer dollars are spent in hotel fees.

My only question would be whether UL could continually bring 20K to the bowl.

First, it was way more than 20,000, Second, NO is 2 hours or 142 miles from Lafayette while Jonesboro is 72 miles from Memphis (basically the distance from Baton Rouge to New Orleans), so they do fill the hotels cause most people do not like to travel back and like partying in NO. Lafayette folks are notorious for weekend visits to the Big Easy all the time. We would not get tired of it but would obviously entertain the chance for a bigger bowl bid if the opportunity arises.

(10-03-2012 12:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 12:40 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Okay, let's get some facts straight here.

The #1 pick does not alternate. The NO Bowl gets the #1 pick. Period. The only caveat is they must take the champion twice in a four year period.

This is the first I've ever heard anyone dispute New Orleans and GoDaddy alternating years of having the first pick of bowl eligible SBC schools. I thought that was pretty much a known fact.

I had never heard about it alternating. From everything I've read the N.O. Bowl is the primary bowl of the Sun Belt, and has first choice every year, even though their contract lets them only take the champion two out of every four years.

(10-03-2012 01:02 PM)garmen Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 11:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The only thing that could hurt the Cajuns with the NO bowl is simply whether or not ULL fans will eventually get tired of such a close bowl location. ULL going to New Orleans would be like ASU going to Memphis, fans travel to the city all the time, and fewer dollars are spent in hotel fees.

My only question would be whether UL could continually bring 20K to the bowl.

First, it was way more than 20,000, Second, NO is 2 hours or 142 miles from Lafayette while Jonesboro is 72 miles from Memphis (basically the distance from Baton Rouge to New Orleans), so they do fill the hotels cause most people do not like to travel back and like partying in NO. Lafayette folks are notorious for weekend visits to the Big Easy all the time. We would not get tired of it but would obviously entertain the chance for a bigger bowl bid if the opportunity arises.

Oh yeah... New Orleans aint Pimphis...

I'd go back in a heartbeat.. Stay 2 nights just like last time and party my balls off!!

Z

(10-02-2012 10:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 10:47 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 10:15 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 10:13 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Like WKU won it on the field last year? And Jesus Christ with the America's team stuff really.

Nice ring to it......not my words, it's the national tv and newpapers coming up with that stuff. I would be happy for any Sun Belt team to have that type of recognition.

yep, the announcers on the baylor game coined it. however, did you notice the the awkward "go to commercial" 2 minutes later? i thought it was because the Fun-roe-vians in the stands were chanting BULL to a call they didn't like. or maybe that was the F-U-B-U shirts? i can't tell what truly endears ULM to the masses.

:sly: :yankinyerchain:

Now come on... does Ruston really have any reason to claim advantage over Monroe as far as fun activies are concerned? Reality Check please?

Monroe is a LOT bigger than Ruston and has a LOT more services and more things to do than Ruston. Neither of them are going to feature prominently in any tourism surveys though.

So whats wrong with FUBU? Is it some comment on the level of interest in the African American populace in the football team in Monroe? I hope youre not arguing that that would be a bad thing. Maybe I don't understand your comment. Perhaps you could extrapolate.

Fun-roe is a term that we locals use...it means nothing, really.

The FUBU shirts were not licensed FUBU shirts....they were shirts ULM made and it did not mean "For Us By Us."

It mean F--- You Baylor University.

I like your wit though,

(10-03-2012 12:47 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 12:40 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Okay, let's get some facts straight here.

The #1 pick does not alternate. The NO Bowl gets the #1 pick. Period. The only caveat is they must take the champion twice in a four year period.

This is the first I've ever heard anyone dispute New Orleans and GoDaddy alternating years of having the first pick of bowl eligible SBC schools. I thought that was pretty much a known fact.

I don't know if it was discussed here but it certainly was dicussed in the media. As I stated, you don't know as much as you think you do in concerns with the NO Bowl.

Question? If WKU does somehow win the sunbelt and does so with an impressive record, are we required to goto the NO bowl or can WKU opt out for a possible better or more Reginal bowl?

As long as there are two other teams to fill SBC slots you're good.

I will admit that I haven't read this whole thread but just wanted to chime in.

I wish there was some common sense applied to the bowls. The Cajuns should go to the New Orleans bowl. They will draw well there. The New Orleans Bowl should be renamed the Go-to-New-Orleans-and-lose-to-the-Cajuns-Bowl.

I want a bowl for WKU. Hopefully one that is closer than New Orleans. Mobile would be nice.

(10-03-2012 09:05 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  I will admit that I haven't read this whole thread but just wanted to chime in.

I wish there was some common sense applied to the bowls. The Cajuns should go to the New Orleans bowl. They will draw well there. The New Orleans Bowl should be renamed the Go-to-New-Orleans-and-lose-to-the-Cajuns-Bowl.

I want a bowl for WKU. Hopefully one that is closer than New Orleans. Mobile would be nice.

I wish bad for the sec and acc right now......I want the Music City Bowl