With no Bush, Cheney or Republican Congress to kick around anymore, all of the left's ammunition is now exclusively targeted toward Tea Parties, a cable news network, a former governor, and a couple AM radio talking heads (all private citizens).

(04-20-2010 06:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Troll.

So you don't have video of the incident. If there is no video and all we have is a false police report, there is no proof anything even happened.

(04-20-2010 06:49 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  With no Bush, Cheney or Republican Congress to kick around anymore, all of the left's ammunition is now exclusively targeted toward Tea Parties, a cable news network, a former governor, and a couple AM radio talking heads (all private citizens).

All of which are spokespersons/propagandists for the Republican party.

(04-20-2010 10:40 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 06:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Troll.

So you don't have video of the incident. If there is no video and all we have is a false police report, there is no proof anything even happened.

Where is the proof that it is a false police report. It's moronic to simply assume that it is false.

(04-20-2010 10:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:40 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 06:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Troll.

So you don't have video of the incident. If there is no video and all we have is a false police report, there is no proof anything even happened.

Where is the proof that it is a false police report. It's moronic to simply assume that it is false.

Where is the proof it isn't? You gave no proof.

(04-20-2010 10:46 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:40 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 06:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Troll.

So you don't have video of the incident. If there is no video and all we have is a false police report, there is no proof anything even happened.

Where is the proof that it is a false police report. It's moronic to simply assume that it is false.

Where is the proof it isn't? You gave no proof.

You never provide proof of any of your idiotic claims, stop with demanding others provide proof.

Never mind that I did provide proof with the police report. You want to go ahead with your trolling and say it's a false report, prove it. Never mind, silly of me.

(04-20-2010 11:28 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:46 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:43 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:40 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 06:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Troll.

So you don't have video of the incident. If there is no video and all we have is a false police report, there is no proof anything even happened.

Where is the proof that it is a false police report. It's moronic to simply assume that it is false.

Where is the proof it isn't? You gave no proof.

You never provide proof of any of your idiotic claims, stop with demanding others provide proof.

Never mind that I did provide proof with the police report. You want to go ahead with your trolling and say it's a false report, prove it. Never mind, silly of me.

Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

(04-20-2010 11:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

Do you have proof she did file a false police report? I am waiting.

(04-20-2010 11:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

Do you have proof she did file a false police report? I am waiting.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who posted it. It is also NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it happening. I saw what appears to be a police report but can you prove what is in the police report is factual and not a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it is a real police report? I didn't think so.

(04-20-2010 11:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

Do you have proof she did file a false police report? I am waiting.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who posted it. It is also NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it happening. I saw what appears to be a police report but can you prove what is in the police report is factual and not a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it is a real police report? I didn't think so.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who disputes it. It is also not NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it not happening. I saw a police report, can you prove what is in the police report isn't factual and is a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it isn't a real police report? I didn't think so.

I don't normally quote Victor Davis Hanson, but he worded this pretty well...

http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson041610B.html

Quote:Apparently few on the Left realized that in their dislike for Bush, and in their tolerance for those who hated Bush, they more or less changed attitudes toward acceptable and unacceptable public expressions of dissent. So now the public sees their sudden call for polite discourse as abject hypocrisy. Even the toxic and increasingly desperate charge of racism has little currency now, and soon will boomerang back on the accusers.

[...]

I think ultimately many "progressives," adherents to relativism, feel that the past furor over Bush in all its creepy manifestations was justified because of who Bush was; but that a similar methodology (or, in fact, far softer manifestations) of dissent toward Obama is unacceptable because of who Obama is (i.e. one can act rudely toward clearly bad people, but not rudely toward unquestionably "good" people). It is that simple.

I don't believe that the TEA Party is inherently violent. It is true that they do have there bunch that would love to be violent but they are small and relatively quiet.

With that being said, I don't even think the tea party has a complete cause. Some are using it to say that they are sick of government, some just want to put a republican in the White House, some are using it to renounce both parties, I've even seen signs that said that ________ University College Republicans against democrats. There's a reason that the GOP wants to keep them in their back pocket. That's because they know that they are the type of people that will show up and donate to candidates.

(04-20-2010 01:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I don't believe that the TEA Party is inherently violent. It is true that they do have there bunch that would love to be violent but they are small and relatively quiet.

With that being said, I don't even think the tea party has a complete cause. Some are using it to say that they are sick of government, some just want to put a republican in the White House, some are using it to renounce both parties, I've even seen signs that said that ________ University College Republicans against democrats. There's a reason that the GOP wants to keep them in their back pocket. That's because they know that they are the type of people that will show up and donate to candidates.

I'd like to see where you get this from. Sounds like more political conjecture on your part than anything else. Care to elaborate what BUNCH you are trying to tie to the Tea Party today.

(04-20-2010 01:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

Do you have proof she did file a false police report? I am waiting.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who posted it. It is also NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it happening. I saw what appears to be a police report but can you prove what is in the police report is factual and not a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it is a real police report? I didn't think so.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who disputes it. It is also not NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it not happening. I saw a police report, can you prove what is in the police report isn't factual and is a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it isn't a real police report? I didn't think so.

I so played you. You fell right into my trap. You and the other righties proved my intent with your posts. Thank you.

(04-20-2010 02:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 01:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I don't believe that the TEA Party is inherently violent. It is true that they do have there bunch that would love to be violent but they are small and relatively quiet.

With that being said, I don't even think the tea party has a complete cause. Some are using it to say that they are sick of government, some just want to put a republican in the White House, some are using it to renounce both parties, I've even seen signs that said that ________ University College Republicans against democrats. There's a reason that the GOP wants to keep them in their back pocket. That's because they know that they are the type of people that will show up and donate to candidates.

I'd like to see where you get this from. Sounds like more political conjecture on your part than anything else. Care to elaborate what BUNCH you are trying to tie to the Tea Party today.

I should've wrote that they "probably" have their bunch.

(04-20-2010 02:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 01:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

Do you have proof she did file a false police report? I am waiting.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who posted it. It is also NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it happening. I saw what appears to be a police report but can you prove what is in the police report is factual and not a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it is a real police report? I didn't think so.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who disputes it. It is also not NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it not happening. I saw a police report, can you prove what is in the police report isn't factual and is a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it isn't a real police report? I didn't think so.

I so played you. You fell right into my trap. You and the other righties proved my intent with your posts. Thank you.

I so played you. You fell right into my trap. Troll.

Nomad was more correct the first time. They very likely have their bunch.

Why is it so difficult to believe that every large activist/protest group is liable to attract a few undesirable fringe elements, bent on their own not-so-pleasant motives. Someone will spit, someone will shout an ethnic slur, someone will want to get physical, someone will make an over-the-top sign, someone will throw something, etc. Hell, some of this behavior isn't out of place at a large sporting event. While it's the majority, it's unrealistic to think 'everyone' attending is a well-adjusted, reasoned individual.

Protests, no matter what political stripe, tend to draw out the particularly loud and confrontational from the woodwork -- the ones that ultimately wind up on television or websites because of their outrageousness. They might make up only 1% of the crowd, or 3%, or 5%, but they are there.

There's nothing wrong with admitting that a political or social cause you support might attract a few loonies with different motives. You're not guilty by association (no matter what partisan politicians, media and bloggers try to label you as).

(04-20-2010 02:56 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 02:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 01:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 11:32 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Do you have proof she didn't file a false police report? I am waiting.

Do you have proof she did file a false police report? I am waiting.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who posted it. It is also NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it happening. I saw what appears to be a police report but can you prove what is in the police report is factual and not a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it is a real police report? I didn't think so.

It isn't my duty to prove it. You are the one who disputes it. It is also not NIU05's obligation to prove it happened as well. I see no video of it not happening. I saw a police report, can you prove what is in the police report isn't factual and is a politically motivated lie? Can you even prove it isn't a real police report? I didn't think so.

I so played you. You fell right into my trap. You and the other righties proved my intent with your posts. Thank you.

I so played you. You fell right into my trap. Troll.

Nice try tea-bagger.

(04-20-2010 02:59 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Nomad was more correct the first time. They very likely have their bunch.

Why is it so difficult to believe that every large activist/protest group is liable to attract a few undesirable fringe elements, bent on their own not-so-pleasant motives. Someone will spit, someone will shout an ethnic slur, someone will want to get physical, someone will make an over-the-top sign, someone will throw something, etc. Hell, some of this behavior isn't out of place at a large sporting event. While it's the majority, it's unrealistic to think 'everyone' attending is a well-adjusted, reasoned individual.

Protests, no matter what political stripe, tend to draw out the particularly loud and confrontational from the woodwork -- the ones that ultimately wind up on television or websites because of their outrageousness. They might make up only 1% of the crowd, or 3%, or 5%, but they are there.

There's nothing wrong with admitting that a political or social cause you support might attract a few loonies with different motives. You're not guilty by association (no matter what partisan politicians, media and bloggers try to label you as).

Oh, I get it like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn The Weather Underground . Nope the Tea Party don't have anyone like that bunch. If you think there are, just direct me to it.

(04-20-2010 03:35 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 02:59 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Nomad was more correct the first time. They very likely have their bunch.

Why is it so difficult to believe that every large activist/protest group is liable to attract a few undesirable fringe elements, bent on their own not-so-pleasant motives. Someone will spit, someone will shout an ethnic slur, someone will want to get physical, someone will make an over-the-top sign, someone will throw something, etc. Hell, some of this behavior isn't out of place at a large sporting event. While it's the majority, it's unrealistic to think 'everyone' attending is a well-adjusted, reasoned individual.

Protests, no matter what political stripe, tend to draw out the particularly loud and confrontational from the woodwork -- the ones that ultimately wind up on television or websites because of their outrageousness. They might make up only 1% of the crowd, or 3%, or 5%, but they are there.

There's nothing wrong with admitting that a political or social cause you support might attract a few loonies with different motives. You're not guilty by association (no matter what partisan politicians, media and bloggers try to label you as).

Oh, I get it like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn The Weather Underground . Nope the Tea Party don't have anyone like that bunch. If you think there are, just direct me to it.

Probably exactly like that with different intentions. I don't think any demonstration in American history has lacked a fringe element. Are you honestly gonna say that there ain't a bad apple in the bunch? True we haven't seen it, but it's probably out there.