And it's supposed to be republicans that don't have an understanding of nuance?
(02-22-2010 10:38 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: 1) Why didn't we see tea party rallies when President George Herbert Walker Bush passed the unfunded Prescriptrion Drug Benefit to Medi-Care.
Many on the right were upset about that. I voiced my displeasure on here numberous times. However, and you'd do well to learn this at some point, reactions are shaped by numerous variables, not just one event.
When the drug benefit was passed it wasn't by a president who said he'd never sign a bill like it. Obama signed a pork laden "stimulus" bill that 1) had no real stimulus in it 2) was entirely deficit spending and 3) filled with pork when he said he wouldn't sign pork laden bills.
The drug benefit wasn't a massive government powergrab of 1/6th of the US economy. Obamacare is. The majority of the country wasn't against the drug benefit, the majority are against Obamacare. If they weren't, it would have passed long ago.
When the drug benefit was passed 10% of the country wasn't unemployed, unlike now.
You are like clockwork in comparing apples to tow trucks and trying to make some case against others based on it. You need to learn how to have a well reasoned and logical thought before you try again.
Quote:but when the CBO estimates "Obamacare" to be deficit neutral some of you march on Washington dressed up in Patriot costumes.
This shows your ignorance on several levels.
1) the tea party movement isn't only people on the right. They come from all across the political spectrum. The media and their willing sheep, like you, love to pretend that isn't the case, but it is a lie. You're either a liar or the useful idiot that doesn't know better. Either way, you're wrong.
2) Second, the CBO scores what's in the bill. The bill makes estimates on things like new taxes, mandates, how many people will use Obamacare etc. As has been pointed out ad naseum by many here, there will be after effects of this legislation that will make the estimated costs pie in the sky. Employers will drop their coverage and push their employees to it because it's cheaper to pay the payroll tax than pay for their care. That will swell the roles over what the CBO estimates include because it's not reflected in the bill. The cost will go up because the payroll tax isn't enough to cover those added to the roles. That is but one example of many.
The fact of the matter is these bills are not black and white. There are thousands of cause and effect relationships that must be considered that you and those like you choose to ignore. Either because you lack the mental capacity to consider them or you're too lazy to care. It's why a truly educated discussion is so difficult with you and impossible with Robert.
So to answer you question, I sleep fine. Thanks.