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Five Criticisms of George Bush That Could Be Better Applied to Barack Obama
Here's something you won't see on CNN or MSNBC- some honesty

Most liberals in this country are intellectually dishonest which is why they don't have the slightest qualms about grotesque double standards. That's why Al Gore can live in a mansion that consumes energy like a football stadium while he tells you to cut back. It's why Sarah Palin can be sliced apart for things said by Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live while Joe Biden is treated seriously despite being the biggest doofus ever to occupy the Vice-Presidency. It's also why Barack Obama gets a free pass for many of the same things that George Bush was criticized for doing. Here are just a few of the criticisms aimed at George Bush that could be better applied to Barack Obama.

Barack Obama is a chickenhawk: How often did we hear liberals sneer that George Bush was a chickenhawk? How could someone who had never served in combat lead America as Commander-in-Chief?

Well, excuse me for noticing, but George Bush did at least fly planes for the National Guard. On the other hand, despite the fact that Barack Obama never served at all, he's fighting the same two wars that Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan. He is even ramping things up in Afghanistan while simultaneously forcing our troops to engage in combat under onerous new rules of engagement that will make it much tougher on our soldiers. Guess it's easy for a chickenhawk like Obama to handcuff our troops going into battle when he has never been into combat himself.

Barack Obama is a shameless liar: Bush lied! Bush lied! Bush lied! How many times did we hear that over the last eight years? It was repeated endlessly despite the fact that whatever else you want to say about George Bush, he could fairly be called one of the most honest politicians in America. That's why the "lies" he was supposed to be telling were always things like, "He thought there were WMDS in Iraq, but there weren't" or "Bush said he wants to bring democracy to Iraq, but he's lying!"

Meanwhile, Barack Obama has already broken more campaign promises in less than six months than Bush did in two terms. Obama promised no tax increases for people under $250,000 and he's working on multiple bills, including health care and cap and trade, that would raise taxes even on the poor. He promised transparency, to hold all bills for 5 days before they are signed so the public could comment. It hasn't happened once yet. Barack even promised to "negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN." How's that pie-in-the-sky promise working out?

Additionally, almost everyone reading this article could probably name off at least one or two more whoppers that President Jug Ears has reeled off. During the campaign, he was promising fluffy rainbows and multi-colored kittens to make every child in the world happy and now that Obama's President, it's "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"

Barack Obama is spending us into bankruptcy: George Bush was savagely criticized by the Right for his spending. In fact, it was the single biggest criticism of him throughout his administration -- and rightfully so. The Left even got in on the act. The mainstream media hammered Bush for the deficit and so did the Democrats, despite the fact that they always seemed to be screeching that we weren't spending enough money.

Fast forward to Barack Obama, who is already the biggest spender we've ever had in the White House. The previous champ, FDR, at least had a depression and WWII to deal with. On the other hand, at a time when ordinary Americans have had to cut back, Obama supported Bush's 700 billion dollar plus TARP bill and funneled hundreds of billions of dollars to fat cats in the banking industry. He spent billions more of your money helping his union pals at Chrysler and GM. He slammed through a stimulus bill that will cost more than a trillion dollars despite the fact that it hasn't stimulated the economy -- and since economists were already projecting that the economy would recover in the 2nd half of 2009, if not now, then when? Meanwhile, Obama wants to take over the health care system, he wants to spend billions on Cap and Trade, and they've even been floating the idea of a 2nd Stimulus Bill. Bush may have been like an irresponsible person who was living month to month by paying bills with his credit card, but Obama's like someone taking out a third mortgage on his mother’s house so he can spend the next few months buying rounds of beer for his friends at his favorite bar.

Barack Obama is ruining America's reputation around the world: It's fair to say that George Bush was not well liked around the world and that America's reputation suffered under his presidency. However, that was not because George Bush was an obnoxious Texas yahoo who was upsetting the delicate sensibilities of the "world community;" it was because George Bush was fighting a global war on terror and had to ask our "allies" to actually do things to help us.

It's very easy to love America when it's all "gain" and "no pain." When Americans give you money, fight your wars for you, and do your dirty work while asking almost nothing in return because they errantly believe that "good will" can be stored up like money in a bank, it's easy to say a few nice words about America. But, when the Americans expect you to actually pay them back for all they've done by taking their side against terrorists or worse yet, actually fight with them the same way they've done for you in the past, that is a different matter entirely.

Nevertheless, Barack Obama promised us a new day when he got into the White House. Oh, we were going to see what real diplomacy looks like when Barack Obama stepped into the Oval Office! However, that hasn't worked out so well, has it? Obama has managed to insult our best allies in Britain multiple times, he sold our Eastern European allies out to the Russians, who incidentally, have run rings around him so far, and he stayed silent for far too long when he should have been speaking up for the people in Iran. Obama has also sided with a dictator-wannabe over freedom-loving people in Honduras, the Taliban have taken over half the country in Pakistan under his watch, and he is already proving to be the most anti-Israeli President we've had in the White House for decades. In other words, our friends now wonder if they can rely on us and our enemies have been emboldened. Even Jimmy Carter took a couple of years to screw things up this badly on the foreign policy front.

Barack Obama is dumb: Yes, I know that Barack Obama went to Columbia University and Harvard Law School. However, George W. Bush also went to Harvard and no one on the Left ever seemed to think that made it difficult to hang the "dumb" label around his neck. What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander.

Admittedly, George Bush was not the most eloquent President we've ever had, but of course, neither is Barack Obama once he gets off his teleprompter. The biggest difference between the two men is not their speaking ability; it's that the mainstream media decided from day one that George Bush was dumb just because he was a Republican from Texas. Then, they spent years highlighting every teeny, tiny piece of evidence that they could find to try to prove their theory. If Bush mangled a word, it was because he was stupid. If he made a mistake -- stupid. If they disagreed with his position? Stupid! On the other hand, the very same media has decided that Barack Obama is smart because he's a liberal; so no matter how many dumb things he says or does, it’s ignored because it doesn't fit the template that the media created based on his ideology.

Yet and still, was it George Bush who claimed that there were more than 57 states? Did Bush say he saw our "fallen heroes" in the audience during a speech? Was it George Bush who made a racist comment about "typical white people?" Did W. spend 20 years without complaint at a church where the pastor spouted off ignorant, anti-Semitic ideas and conspiracy theories? Was George Bush so much of an airhead that he actually ended up "thanking himself in a speech" because that's what his teleprompter said to do? Was it George W. Bush who tried to walk into the White House through a window? If Barack Obama were a Republican, the words "Too dumb to be President?" would have already appeared beside of his picture thousands of times by now.

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Outstanding.

Obama is wrecking this country further rather than helping it. Unfortunately, the msm doesn't care and if they did the White House would be sure to prevent them from a hard line of questioning.
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(07-16-2009 06:06 PM)STLouis Blazer Wrote:  Outstanding.

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So weak.
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(07-16-2009 08:00 PM)egoboss407 Wrote:  So weak.

you wont get off that easy...

break it down, hoss!
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(07-16-2009 07:40 PM)GGniner Wrote:  Nail meets Head

Yes...It explains very well why you really can not trust ANY of these power hungry control freaks....They ALL lie...They ALL steal...They ALL do whatever in the hell they want to..once "they" have control of the state apparatus.03-puke

Anyone that thinks just because of idealogy that one POTUS is better than another really is either totally indoctrinated by gang mentality or just has not been paying attention.05-stirthepot
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Obama needed every major drive by media communist media idiot to push him into the White House, and then every knucklehead independent suburban, thinking they were cool and edgy, to get elected. This man has on term all over him, just like Clinton (Thanks Ross Perot). Obama was a watershed and it has already passed. Looking forward to watching the UC Bearcats in the NCAA Football National Championship Game and then welcoming an a new President into the White House, in consecutive years.
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(07-16-2009 08:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Obama needed every major drive by media communist media idiot to push him into the White House, and then every knucklehead independent suburban, thinking they were cool and edgy, to get elected. This man has on term all over him, just like Clinton (Thanks Ross Perot). Obama was a watershed and it has already passed. Looking forward to watching the UC Bearcats in the NCAA Football National Championship Game and then welcoming an a new President into the White House, in consecutive years.

Somehow... I think you are going to be disappointed....with UC anyway.04-cheers
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(07-16-2009 08:08 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(07-16-2009 08:00 PM)egoboss407 Wrote:  So weak.

you wont get off that easy...

break it down, hoss!

You neonuts are hilarious. Funniest part of my day.
1.)Barack Obama is a chickenhawk? BO is fighting the same wars as GWB? He has no choice. Somebody has to clean up the mess. You decepicons like to claim "GWB kept us safe after 9/11". That's like saying I pitched a perfect game after giving up 39 runs in the first inning. The point is that we were attacked, a feat which had not occured since 12/7/41 and that wasn't even on the mainland!

2.) Barack Obama is a shameless liar? Name one politician than hasn't had to change their campaign pledges after getting elected. If they told you what they could and couldn't do then they wouldn't get elected. GWB was elected in 2000 on small government and non-interventionist policies. How did that work out?

3.) Barack Obama is spending us into bankruptcy? Well, after GWB spent the surplus that he was given on 2 wars, and tax cuts for you clowns, our nation was left with a weakened economy. The normal reaction to said weakened economy is to lower interest rates. However, GWB already beat Barack Obama to the punch; interest rates can't be lowered. The only way to start the engine again is to spend more money. The fundamental problem in America is that people owe more money on items then they are worth. The solution is to put money in peoples pockets, and make these items worth more so they can be sold. This causes inflation, but inflation is the friend to folks that owe money. In the meantime America needs to get off foreign oil, and address it's aging population.

4.) Barack Obama is ruining America's reputation around the world? This complaint is more an issue of style rather than substance. If I want you to do something for me there are 2 ways I can go about it. I can threaten you, or I can charm you. Sometimes you need to use both. It really doesn't matter if Barack Obama cares what the world thinks about America, it matters if the world thinks that Barack Obama cares about them.

5.) Barack Obama is dumb? To GWB's credit, he isn't dumb. The guy actually has more charm and charisma than most people. The difference in the two men is that one is a self-made man, the other a legacy of his name. An historian could have told you in 2000 that GWB's presidency would have been a failure. Why? Because he has never accompished anything on his own in his life. If his last name were Smith, would he have been president, governor, baseball owner, Harvard/Yale graduate?

So you right-wing republicons spent so much time convincing America in 2000 & 2004 that GWB was the next coming of Reagan, and that he was the best hope for America. At this point, you have NO credibility and should sit-down, shut-up and eat this liberal sandwich that is coming your way. Maybe next time you will think before presenting America with garbage nominees. Next time bring Kryptonite, for now you will just have to live with Barack Obama, and the socialism of America for 8 years (or however long he decides to be president) In a way, this is the president YOU created! 03-lmfao
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You neonuts are hilarious. Funniest part of my day.
1.)Barack Obama is a chickenhawk? BO is fighting the same wars as GWB? He has no choice. Somebody has to clean up the mess. You decepicons like to claim "GWB kept us safe after 9/11". That's like saying I pitched a perfect game after giving up 39 runs in the first inning. The point is that we were attacked, a feat which had not occured since 12/7/41 and that wasn't even on the mainland!

2.) Barack Obama is a shameless liar? Name one politician than hasn't had to change their campaign pledges after getting elected. If they told you what they could and couldn't do then they wouldn't get elected. GWB was elected in 2000 on small government and non-interventionist policies. How did that work out?

3.) Barack Obama is spending us into bankruptcy? Well, after GWB spent the surplus that he was given on 2 wars, and tax cuts for you clowns, our nation was left with a weakened economy. The normal reaction to said weakened economy is to lower interest rates. However, GWB already beat Barack Obama to the punch; interest rates can't be lowered. The only way to start the engine again is to spend more money. The fundamental problem in America is that people owe more money on items then they are worth. The solution is to put money in peoples pockets, and make these items worth more so they can be sold. This causes inflation, but inflation is the friend to folks that owe money. In the meantime America needs to get off foreign oil, and address it's aging population.

4.) Barack Obama is ruining America's reputation around the world? This complaint is more an issue of style rather than substance. If I want you to do something for me there are 2 ways I can go about it. I can threaten you, or I can charm you. Sometimes you need to use both. It really doesn't matter if Barack Obama cares what the world thinks about America, it matters if the world thinks that Barack Obama cares about them.

5.) Barack Obama is dumb? To GWB's credit, he isn't dumb. The guy actually has more charm and charisma than most people. The difference in the two men is that one is a self-made man, the other a legacy of his name. An historian could have told you in 2000 that GWB's presidency would have been a failure. Why? Because he has never accompished anything on his own in his life. If his last name were Smith, would he have been president, governor, baseball owner, Harvard/Yale graduate?

So you right-wing republicons spent so much time convincing America in 2000 & 2004 that GWB was the next coming of Reagan, and that he was the best hope for America. At this point, you have NO credibility and should sit-down, shut-up and eat this liberal sandwich that is coming your way. Maybe next time you will think before presenting America with garbage nominees. Next time bring Kryptonite, for now you will just have to live with Barack Obama, and the socialism of America for 8 years (or however long he decides to be president) In a way, this is the president YOU created!

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(07-16-2009 10:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You neonuts are hilarious. Funniest part of my day.
1.)Barack Obama is a chickenhawk? BO is fighting the same wars as GWB? He has no choice. Somebody has to clean up the mess. You decepicons like to claim "GWB kept us safe after 9/11". That's like saying I pitched a perfect game after giving up 39 runs in the first inning. The point is that we were attacked, a feat which had not occured since 12/7/41 and that wasn't even on the mainland!

2.) Barack Obama is a shameless liar? Name one politician than hasn't had to change their campaign pledges after getting elected. If they told you what they could and couldn't do then they wouldn't get elected. GWB was elected in 2000 on small government and non-interventionist policies. How did that work out?

3.) Barack Obama is spending us into bankruptcy? Well, after GWB spent the surplus that he was given on 2 wars, and tax cuts for you clowns, our nation was left with a weakened economy. The normal reaction to said weakened economy is to lower interest rates. However, GWB already beat Barack Obama to the punch; interest rates can't be lowered. The only way to start the engine again is to spend more money. The fundamental problem in America is that people owe more money on items then they are worth. The solution is to put money in peoples pockets, and make these items worth more so they can be sold. This causes inflation, but inflation is the friend to folks that owe money. In the meantime America needs to get off foreign oil, and address it's aging population.

4.) Barack Obama is ruining America's reputation around the world? This complaint is more an issue of style rather than substance. If I want you to do something for me there are 2 ways I can go about it. I can threaten you, or I can charm you. Sometimes you need to use both. It really doesn't matter if Barack Obama cares what the world thinks about America, it matters if the world thinks that Barack Obama cares about them.

5.) Barack Obama is dumb? To GWB's credit, he isn't dumb. The guy actually has more charm and charisma than most people. The difference in the two men is that one is a self-made man, the other a legacy of his name. An historian could have told you in 2000 that GWB's presidency would have been a failure. Why? Because he has never accompished anything on his own in his life. If his last name were Smith, would he have been president, governor, baseball owner, Harvard/Yale graduate?

So you right-wing republicons spent so much time convincing America in 2000 & 2004 that GWB was the next coming of Reagan, and that he was the best hope for America. At this point, you have NO credibility and should sit-down, shut-up and eat this liberal sandwich that is coming your way. Maybe next time you will think before presenting America with garbage nominees. Next time bring Kryptonite, for now you will just have to live with Barack Obama, and the socialism of America for 8 years (or however long he decides to be president) In a way, this is the president YOU created!

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+1 for what? He was asked to explain why these criticisms of Bush didn't apply to Obama also. He didn't even make an attempt.
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(07-16-2009 10:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You neonuts are hilarious. Funniest part of my day.
1.)Barack Obama is a chickenhawk? BO is fighting the same wars as GWB? He has no choice. Somebody has to clean up the mess. You decepicons like to claim "GWB kept us safe after 9/11". That's like saying I pitched a perfect game after giving up 39 runs in the first inning. The point is that we were attacked, a feat which had not occured since 12/7/41 and that wasn't even on the mainland!

So they're both chicken hawks. I think the point of the original post was that if the criticisms of Shrub are applied with equal vigor to Obama, he comes up similarly lacking. He does, and rehashing Shrub's shortcomings does nothing to refute that. At the end of they day, "Our guy is screwed up, but your guy is more screwed up," still means, "Our guy is screwed up." And Obama's only been on the job six months. At that point for Shrub, 9/11 hadn't happened yet.

Quote:2.) Barack Obama is a shameless liar? Name one politician than hasn't had to change their campaign pledges after getting elected. If they told you what they could and couldn't do then they wouldn't get elected. GWB was elected in 2000 on small government and non-interventionist policies. How did that work out?

So they are both liars. I think you are correct in identifying Shrub's lies as being, "I'm going to reduce the size of the federal government and get us out of the nation-building business." And I for one will not allow him off the hook for 9/11. Just as I won't allow Obama off the hook because of the mess he inherited. His ran on a platform of lies. He told everyone what they wanted to hear when it was obvious to anyone of even moderately reasonable intelligence who bothered to read the promises that there was absolutely no effing way that they could be achieved. Now he's finding out the hard way that being president is sorta like being a community organizer, except there are consequences.

Quote:3.) Barack Obama is spending us into bankruptcy? Well, after GWB spent the surplus that he was given on 2 wars, and tax cuts for you clowns, our nation was left with a weakened economy. The normal reaction to said weakened economy is to lower interest rates. However, GWB already beat Barack Obama to the punch; interest rates can't be lowered. The only way to start the engine again is to spend more money. The fundamental problem in America is that people owe more money on items then they are worth. The solution is to put money in peoples pockets, and make these items worth more so they can be sold. This causes inflation, but inflation is the friend to folks that owe money. In the meantime America needs to get off foreign oil, and address it's aging population.

So they both led us into bankruptcy. Again, rehashing Shrub's profligacy does nothing to excuse Obama's. And no, if the problem is that we have a bubble caused by overhyped values due to excessive credit, the solution is not to hand out money to keep the overhyped values propped up. That just extends the duration of the recession/depression (and it will be a depression before Obama is through). The real problem is that we have lost our manufacturing base, and we really don't have an economy that adds value any more. Our retail/service economy just means that the wealth we accumulated in the past is just being sucked out to China and Japan and the Emirates. Obama is offering nothing to change this. He's also offering nothing to get us off foreign oil. Under his energy plan, we will import more oil in 2015 than we do today. Look at the numbers and you'll realize that the "solutions" he's advancing are microscopic in scope compared to the size of the problem. He does have a solution to aging; his health care plan will simply kill them. As one who is approaching that age range, I'm not excited about that.

Quote:4.) Barack Obama is ruining America's reputation around the world? This complaint is more an issue of style rather than substance. If I want you to do something for me there are 2 ways I can go about it. I can threaten you, or I can charm you. Sometimes you need to use both. It really doesn't matter if Barack Obama cares what the world thinks about America, it matters if the world thinks that Barack Obama cares about them.

Here I will agree with you to some extent. I've said for a long time that I thought Obama's approach to foreign policy would be better than Shrub's. The problem I see is that Obama's incessant mea culpas (or more properly America culpas) are going too far in the other direction. Two rules in foreign policy--respect the other guy, and demand he respect you in return. Shrub broke the first, and Obama is breaking the second. Neither way produces good results. Don't be an a-hole, but don't show weakness either. Be tough but fair. Neither has accomplished that.

Quote:5.) Barack Obama is dumb? To GWB's credit, he isn't dumb. The guy actually has more charm and charisma than most people. The difference in the two men is that one is a self-made man, the other a legacy of his name. An historian could have told you in 2000 that GWB's presidency would have been a failure. Why? Because he has never accompished anything on his own in his life. If his last name were Smith, would he have been president, governor, baseball owner, Harvard/Yale graduate?

Uh-oh. This would imply that, "Any historian could have told you in 2008 that BHO's presidency would have been a failure. Why? Because he has never accompished anything on his own in his life." Actually, in Obama's case it would be that he has never actually DONE anything, period. I don't think either Obama or Shrub is dumb. I just don't think either had much in the way of accomplishments before getting to the White House. And I think both were overmatched when they got there as a result. The best explanation I've heard for Shrub is that he was too lazy to do the work himself, so he just let others (Cheney, Rummy) run amok. I don't think Obama is lazy, I just think he's never been in a position where his actions had consequences, and this is a tough place to learn. Will he learn on the job and become competent? The bigger question to me is, if he does, will he be able to overcome Reid and Pelosi.

Quote:So you right-wing republicons spent so much time convincing America in 2000 & 2004 that GWB was the next coming of Reagan, and that he was the best hope for America. At this point, you have NO credibility and should sit-down, shut-up and eat this liberal sandwich that is coming your way. Maybe next time you will think before presenting America with garbage nominees. Next time bring Kryptonite, for now you will just have to live with Barack Obama, and the socialism of America for 8 years (or however long he decides to be president) In a way, this is the president YOU created!
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Agree here. If Shrub had not been so incompetent, there's no way we would have fallen for Obama's street hustle. I just hope and pray that there's enough left to be worth saving when Obama gets through. But I doubt that there will be. Stick a fork in the USA. We're done.
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(07-16-2009 09:59 PM)egoboss407 Wrote:  The point is that we were attacked, a feat which had not occured since 12/7/41 and that wasn't even on the mainland!

The same f'in building was attacked by the same f'in people 8 years earlier. If there was a president responsible for deterring them from a repeat, it was not GWB. In the intervening 8 years, there were numerous attacks by those people on US territory (embassies) or properties abroad, with virtually no response.
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I didn't think egoslaves bullet point about being attacked needed to be responded to. All the attacks since Pearl Harbor have been listed repetedly and yet such stupidity as his keep being posted anyway. If reading about those attacks here and elsewhere, hell, witnessing it in real time for himself, can't sink it into his brain, it's a waste of time to have a grown-up conversation with him. Liberalism IS a disease. Jeez, I mean he is arguing against tax cuts and promoting printing money and spending in another thread.
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Hey, at least egoboss sent in a response. More than we can say about most of the other drive-by liberal posters.

+1 to egoboss!
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(07-17-2009 03:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Agree here. If Shrub had not been so incompetent, there's no way we would have fallen for Obama's street hustle. I just hope and pray that there's enough left to be worth saving when Obama gets through. But I doubt that there will be. Stick a fork in the USA. We're done.

Nonsense. The US elected Clinton and Carter. The populace has been falling for this repeatedly. And while you point out Bush's failings, you never mention his successes...and neither did the media. That's where the dishonesty is. The spin they put on Bush's presidency (there are still people who claim he "stole" the election) set a tone that could only see failure.

Look at Mach's comments for example. He's clueless about most of the details, not just perspectives, he's unfamiliar w/ actual events, but he's adamant that "Bush lied!" "Bush is responsible for our mess!"

You hear that mantra repeated for over 8 years (and yes I mean well over 8 years. I had a co-worker blaming the 2000 recession on Bush, in SEPT 2000! We hadn't even had the election yet!) along with cherry-picked "evidence" and you have to be pretty diligent to hunt down some truth. Most of the US isn't that diligent.
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RE: Five Criticisms of George Bush That Could Be Better Applied to Barack Obama
(07-17-2009 07:04 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(07-16-2009 09:59 PM)egoboss407 Wrote:  The point is that we were attacked, a feat which had not occured since 12/7/41 and that wasn't even on the mainland!

The same f'in building was attacked by the same f'in people 8 years earlier. If there was a president responsible for deterring them from a repeat, it was not GWB. In the intervening 8 years, there were numerous attacks by those people on US territory (embassies) or properties abroad, with virtually no response.


and for the liberals that are brainwashed by all this stuff..

the 1993 WTC bombing was by the same group of people! Carried out by Ramsey Youssef, who is Khalid Shiek Mohammed's nephew. KSM mastermined both attacks, with the same goal each time. Oh, Youssef's partner on that attack fled to............Iraq

and he's still has a $2 Million bounty on his head and 'at large'. Reportedly Saddam had him on his payroll throughout the 90's. For anyone wondering why the Democrats under Clinton linked Saddam to Al-Qaeda and Iraq being one of the main focal points immediately after 9/11 as a State Sponsor of Terrorism
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and to follow up on my point, that the Libs want to make everyone forget and 'cleanse history' of their incompetence in the 1990's..

This stuff is all why Clinton went nuts over the "Path to 9/11" docu-drama, bullied ABC into censoring part of it and to this day ABC/Disney has yet to release the DVD of. It documents well the failings of the 90's and how we got to 9/11

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