Tripster
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RE: Oklahoma Republican attempts to squelch Free Speech at State Universities
(03-09-2009 02:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: (03-07-2009 10:23 PM)Tripster Wrote: .
What is the most comical about this 'Evolution Thingy', is that if I were to state that Barrack Obama is a direct descendant of an Ape, the outrage would be absolutely enormous because he is Half Black.
Yet, I am supposed to sit back and accept that 'I' am a direct descendant of that Ape .... it is just freggin ridicules at its most 'Best'.
I am a Christian and I believe in both the 'Big Bang & Evolution' - -
I believe God said "LET THERE BE THE UNIVERSE" and he snapped his fingers and "BANG !!!!!!", there was the Universe exploding out into the Heavens and guess what ... every scientist worth a grain of salt will tell you the Universe is STILL growing and expanding ..... so Big Bang.
'Logical Evolution' is so Common Sense that it makes no Common Sense to try to pin it on Humans Evolving from Sea Slime Slugs that landed here on some Asteroid 50 Trillion Years Ago - - these Sea Slugs just one day decided they wanted Legs, Eyes, Hair, a ***** and something to put the ***** in, and decided to Swing From Trees for a while ..... that is so Egregiously Foolish that it reeks.
ALL Species "Evolve" - - we have to Adapt to the changing world around us and that is Simple Called Evolution and Charles Darwin does not have the Scientific Monopoly on that Idea .... now think about it and it becomes pretty Common Sense doesn't it.
And I have to take up for Robert here - - we are "Warning Bar Buddies" straight out of the Spin Room - -
And this happened the same day I gave great Kudos and Accolades to how all the MOD's here are the best - - I still think that, but I guess that particular post got missed all together .....
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(03-08-2009 09:29 PM)Tripster Wrote: .
What scares me more than anything else about this idea, is that we seem to Rely on people (Scientist) who are wrong 99% More than they are Right ...
And for some reason, we take their word as Golden.
Einstein was wrong more than he was right - - Edison took mind boggling years to get the simple Light Bulb right (In the period from 1878 to 1880 Edison and his associates worked on at least three thousand different theories to develop an efficient incandescent lamp) ... and on and on.
That is why it is called "Science" and not called "Absoluteness".
Mathematics is a Dream Mechanism for Calculating Theory, but in the end, without the ability to Reach in and Touch the Real Thing as the Changes are 'Actually Being Made', you are simply 'Calculating and Quantifying Theory'.
Just remember - - these are the Same Guys that 'Can't Cure the Common Cold' .......
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First ... simply ascribing the creation of the universe to God does nothing to explain things. Who created God? Who created the thing that created God? Categorizing unknowns as "God" is naive and weak minded. Morever, science offers plausible explanations through the Big Bang, and the multiverse theory.
Second ... saying that Sea Slug --> Ape --> Human is so incredibly wrong you by default lose the argument. I'm going to get Richard Dawkins here for a second: Humans are the pinnacle of evolution. We sit atop the mountain of nature. There are two ways to get to the top: the gentle but very very long slope of evolution, or the sheer cliff of creationism. Evolution is a long drawn out and slow process taking hundreds of millions of years. If you want to see micro examples of evolution ... look no further than AIDS adapting to ethnicity, or regional immunity to the plague, or symbiosis between Koala and gut bacteria, or isolation driven evolution (Darwin's finches, etc), or superbugs, or the flu. Notice most of these examples are on the bacterial level, further supporting the ground-up-gradual-slope of evolution.
Third ... always remember that the goal of science is to advance. When it's wrong it corrects, moves on, and presses further. Better, faster, stronger, constant improvement. Being wrong in science means progress. This is in STARK contrast to religion, where the be-all-end-all is stated in holy books that are allegedly the word of God. Any evidence contradicting these books are to simply be ignored. Do I really need to start taking examples of the Bible? The God of the Old Testament is arguably the worst character ever created in all of fiction.
To take a phrase and spin it around .... the probability of all life originating on Earth being created by God is no greater than the chance that a hurricane, sweeping through a scrapyard, would have the luck to assemble a Boeing 747.
I totally understand your points, but I see beyond the Hurricane and know that if I were that Direct Spawn of the Sea Slime Slug who became an Ape, I would have an Actual and Provable bloodline set of Traits that could not be tossed around as Probables or Possibilities, that are totally and 100% Traceable back to the Sea Slug or the Ape ... in which case, I am Either Always Human or Either, I am always a Mongrel made from parts of everything from Dirt to Dolphins and if you can't distinguish me from a Dolphin, there is really something wrong with your Theory.
I came to learn that God also had to Learn about Humans - - after all, He created us out of His own imagination and we are like nothing He had created before .... He even gave us Free Will and He had to truly reach out on that one - - I mean we have screwed it all up from almost day one and He has not Destroyed us yet.
So, if you take into account that there was Dissension in Heaven where Satan and a 3rd of the Angels went to war against God, then God had too allow for Odd Behaviors from his First Creation, the Angels, but went so far beyond that scope with Humans, that even God had to learn us as much as we had to learn Him ... if you read the Bible front to back (King James), you can not come away not seeing that God watched and learned how we acted and built upon that; like any good Father would do and then in return, He taught us better ways from His greater logic and knowledge.
But we usually blame God for OUR Weaknesses and OUR Immorality rather than face the fact that We Humans are just Mean and Weak. God gives us the rope and we usually always hang our selves big time.
God already had Angels, so with Humans, he wanted this "Free Will Thing" to be as pure as it could be if it were to be Real and Honest.
And my Ideas on how all this came to be and who is the cause of it is just as plausible and accurate as any one else's ideas.
Science has never offered me more than the Bible on how we came to be .... it is always going to be a Belief System based on Faith no matter if you are a Super Devote Christian or a Zero Tolerance Unbelieving Scientist .... if you don't have Faith in your Idea, then it is False .... (common sense)
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