(07-18-2017 02:39 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 02:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 01:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 01:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 12:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Yep. Put conservative judges on the bench and get rid of career politicians.

You seriously think these guys will be replaced by NON career politicians?

They may start out that way, but they will arrive at it in short order.

EVERYBODY sent up there will become a career politician. We need term limits badly, and IMO only an outsider like Trump can actually get it done. Use it as a threat for now.

How can you seriously believe this? First, congress makes law, not the president. He can't enact term limits on his own. And second, so far trump hasn't been able to lead them on anything of real meaning or substance.

But I do agree that term limits would be a good start. In absence of that, drastically slashing the amount of wealth they can create would also accomplish much of this. They need to truly become public servants. But the only thing that can accomplish this in all reality is a public that accomplishes it together. Yeah...I'm not holding my breath...

Trump has a better shot at getting it done than anybody else since he is an outsider. He also has a better chance at getting challengers to incumbents to support term limits. If he could get a decent amount of new congressmen to support a 20 year (preferably shorter like 12 year) term limit and Trump's approval was significantly higher than congress as a whole, he may be able to get enough older members of congress to support term limits. With any other president that is a member of either party, term limits are a non-starter. IMO it's in the next 3-8 years or never.

I think you'll probably realize this in due time, but trump won't be able to deliver what you think he will. He's just not capable. The big question is whether you guys will ever actually admit it.