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November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Hoekjeness - 11-02-2014 08:15 AM
Bowl Eligible
East Carolina, Florida St., Clemson, Boston College, Louisville, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Kansas St., TCU, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma, MSU, Ohio St., Maryland, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, WMU, CMU, NIU, Nevada, Colorado St., Boise St., Air Force, Oregon, Utah, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St., Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Texas A&M, and Georgia Southern (45).
Mathematically Eliminated
Tulsa, SMU, UMass, Miami, Kent St., EMU, Hawaii, UNLV, Washington St., Colorado, New Mexico St., Idaho, Troy, and Georgia State (14).
Teams that are on the verge of being knocked out
South Florida, Tulane, UConn, Purdue, Army, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas Tech, Kansas, Iowa St., FAU, FIU, Old Dominion, UTSA, Southern Miss., North Texas, Fresno St., and Vanderbilt (18).
All teams listed above have 6 losses, games left on the schedule that they will most likely lose, and one more loss knocks each of them completely out of the division race (so no 6-7 bowl eligible possibilities)
So that leaves a total of 51 teams out there left in the mix fighting for 31 spots.
Key games next week (bold means we root for them to win):
NIU @ Ball St.
Buffalo @ Ohio
Utah St. @ Wyoming
Wisconsin @ Purdue
Penn St. @ Indiana
UTSA @ Rice
Duke @ Syracuse
Tulane @ Houston
West Virginia @ Texas
UTEP @ WKU
Marshall @ Southern Miss.
Florida @ Vanderbilt
San Jose St. @ Fresno St.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - SilentStryk09 - 11-02-2014 09:48 AM
I missed this game
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - toddjnsn - 11-02-2014 11:01 AM
There's 76 bowl openings (including the final 4 teams in two bowls) -- for 38 teams.
We will have Zero worries at 7-5. If we're somehow 6-6, then we have to worry.
CMU will go 7-5/8-4
NIU will go 8-4, 7-5 at the lowest
Toledo will go 7-5/8-4
WMU will go 7-5/8-4
BGSU will go 7-5
Akron (or possibly Ohio) will go 6-6 and be the odd man out. They will have to worry.
I just hope the ACC beats up on each other and has more 5-7 teams than 6-6 at the bottom of their pile. That would open up a Detroit Bowl for the MAC against a little Big Ten team.
Maybe WMU vs a 6-6 Michigan? That would be sweet.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - westernwilly - 11-02-2014 11:23 AM
(11-02-2014 11:01 AM)toddjnsn Wrote: There's 76 bowl openings (including the final 4 teams in two bowls) -- for 38 teams.They would never accept.
We will have Zero worries at 7-5. If we're somehow 6-6, then we have to worry.
CMU will go 7-5/8-4
NIU will go 8-4, 7-5 at the lowest
Toledo will go 7-5/8-4
WMU will go 7-5/8-4
BGSU will go 7-5
Akron (or possibly Ohio) will go 6-6 and be the odd man out. They will have to worry.
I just hope the ACC beats up on each other and has more 5-7 teams than 6-6 at the bottom of their pile. That would open up a Detroit Bowl for the MAC against a little Big Ten team.
Maybe WMU vs a 6-6 Michigan? That would be sweet.
They only way that the only way that those UofM snobs would play us is if it were the national championship game and this would never happen......because Michigan SUCKS!
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - arrows80 - 11-02-2014 11:49 AM
Nice work.
One minor correction - Georgia Southern technically isn't bowl eligible this year, though they're working to change that.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Montana Bronco - 11-02-2014 11:52 AM
I refuse, under any circumstances, to root for Marshall.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Chipdip2 - 11-02-2014 12:01 PM
(11-02-2014 11:01 AM)toddjnsn Wrote: There's 76 bowl openings (including the final 4 teams in two bowls) -- for 38 teams.
We will have Zero worries at 7-5. If we're somehow 6-6, then we have to worry.
CMU will go 7-5/8-4
NIU will go 8-4, 7-5 at the lowest
Toledo will go 7-5/8-4
WMU will go 7-5/8-4
BGSU will go 7-5
Akron (or possibly Ohio) will go 6-6 and be the odd man out. They will have to worry.
I just hope the ACC beats up on each other and has more 5-7 teams than 6-6 at the bottom of their pile. That would open up a Detroit Bowl for the MAC against a little Big Ten team.
Maybe WMU vs a 6-6 Michigan? That would be sweet.
Bowls are about money. Even at 6-6 lots of bowls would take scUM just because their dopy fans would travel to see them.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Hiller4Hyz09 - 11-02-2014 01:12 PM
(11-02-2014 09:48 AM)SilentStryk09 Wrote: I missed this game
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Bronco'14 - 11-02-2014 01:40 PM
Not rooting for NIU over Ball St the way we're making a push for the MACC.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Hoekjeness - 11-02-2014 02:00 PM
(11-02-2014 01:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: Not rooting for NIU over Ball St the way we're making a push for the MACC.
If we beat NIU at home like we should, then we shouldn't have to worry about this game. But at this point, I want to knock out as many 5 and 6 loss teams as possible. If that means within our own conference to improve our odds, then so be it.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - goldsworth - 11-02-2014 02:02 PM
(11-02-2014 11:49 AM)arrows80 Wrote: Nice work.
One minor correction - Georgia Southern technically isn't bowl eligible this year, though they're working to change that.
hey Arrow 80 are you from Dearborn or did you go to high school in Dearborn?
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - The Colonel - 11-02-2014 02:35 PM
(11-02-2014 11:52 AM)Montana Bronco Wrote: I refuse, under any circumstances, to root for Marshall.
I am rooting for anyone against Marshall until they lose. I don't want to see Marshall end up getting the G5 bid to a major bowl game.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - toddjnsn - 11-02-2014 02:36 PM
Quote:One minor correction - Georgia Southern technically isn't bowl eligible this year, though they're working to change that.
Good eye, Arrows. I would say NOT let them in -- unless there's a lack of teams. Total bottom-preference. Only if they run out of 6-6 teams, IMO. Asking to change the rules to be More than just a potential filler for a bowl would be ridiculous, IMO.
Quote:I refuse, under any circumstances, to root for Marshall.
I did when they were in the MAC and playing P5 teams. I root for them now, because, well, it's just against pesky CUSA teams -- and I'd like to see how well an undefeated Marshall would do against a power P5. :) Talk about going from 0-60!
However, I WILL root against Marshall in the ending part of the season if things are layed out that WE would very possibly play them in a bowl. I'd rather have that.
However, if Marshall gets beat out by Colorado State, or loses 1 game but stomps the rest as they have -- they're going to that Texas Bowl -- a bigger one than ours vs CUSA. So I'm not expecting to be in position to root against them to play them. :)
Quote:But at this point, I want to knock out as many 5 and 6 loss teams as possible. If that means within our own conference to improve our odds, then so be it.
If we beat EMU -- our odds are a 100% LOCK (going 7-5 at worst). So no need to root against 5/6 loss teams in our own conference to make even us look bad indirectly, to some extent. :)
Quote:Bowls are about money. Even at 6-6 lots of bowls would take scUM just because their dopy fans would travel to see them.
True -- and UM's Athletic Director was fired/quit, so I can't use the "but their AD makes bone-headed decisions all the time, tho!". Depends on how things play out, but 7+ W teams in your conference will get auto-preference over 6-6 teams no matter what. So Minnesota will get higher preference than a 6-6 UM, even if that bowl wanted UM instead. UM I think would go if all other 'better' ones were already filled by 7+ W teams. I can't see them being snobs to deny going to it. It's in their back yard (little to no travel costs), and it'd be sold out with WMU & UM fans -- which still brings in a good amt of money in the end by cost-savings and seat-filling.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - arrows80 - 11-02-2014 04:45 PM
(11-02-2014 02:02 PM)goldsworth Wrote:(11-02-2014 11:49 AM)arrows80 Wrote: Nice work.
One minor correction - Georgia Southern technically isn't bowl eligible this year, though they're working to change that.
hey Arrow 80 are you from Dearborn or did you go to high school in Dearborn?
No on both counts.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - broncofan1 - 11-03-2014 12:28 PM
(11-02-2014 11:23 AM)westernwilly Wrote:(11-02-2014 11:01 AM)toddjnsn Wrote: There's 76 bowl openings (including the final 4 teams in two bowls) -- for 38 teams.They would never accept.
We will have Zero worries at 7-5. If we're somehow 6-6, then we have to worry.
CMU will go 7-5/8-4
NIU will go 8-4, 7-5 at the lowest
Toledo will go 7-5/8-4
WMU will go 7-5/8-4
BGSU will go 7-5
Akron (or possibly Ohio) will go 6-6 and be the odd man out. They will have to worry.
I just hope the ACC beats up on each other and has more 5-7 teams than 6-6 at the bottom of their pile. That would open up a Detroit Bowl for the MAC against a little Big Ten team.
Maybe WMU vs a 6-6 Michigan? That would be sweet.
They only way that the only way that those UofM snobs would play us is if it were the national championship game and this would never happen......because Michigan SUCKS!
I was thinking of this exact scenario over the weekend. You're right, they would never accept a lowly bowl against a directional school. Especially when they might lose!
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - thegeneral - 11-03-2014 01:44 PM
Hell, just being able to say u.m. turned down a bowl game against us is almost better than actually playing that game.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - toddjnsn - 11-03-2014 03:33 PM
Quote:I was thinking of this exact scenario over the weekend. You're right, they would never accept a lowly bowl against a directional school. Especially when they might lose!
I don't think so. I think maybe if they fired Hoke they may say "We don't want to go to any bowls", when being at 6-6, they'd be playing a mid-major or another 6-6 P5 team.
But to get a win to go 7-6, above .500 for the year? I think they would. It's in their backyard, and again, it will be a near sellout crowd with WMU + UM fans in Detroit (and others).
I don't think we'd beat UM. We could, don't get me wrong. But basically, they're like VT (who we lost to). Strong-as-hell-D, poor O -- even though they have potential on O. It's just that Garner will throw an INT to make up for a good drive he puts together.
I'd love to see it though. I don't think they'd fear losing to us. And it'd bring in $$. And put them over .500 in their minds.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Cant make this sh t up - 11-03-2014 04:28 PM
(11-02-2014 08:15 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: Bowl Eligible
East Carolina, Florida St., Clemson, Boston College, Louisville, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Kansas St., TCU, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma, MSU, Ohio St., Maryland, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, WMU, CMU, NIU, Nevada, Colorado St., Boise St., Air Force, Oregon, Utah, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St., Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Texas A&M, and Georgia Southern (45).
Mathematically Eliminated
Tulsa, SMU, UMass, Miami, Kent St., EMU, Hawaii, UNLV, Washington St., Colorado, New Mexico St., Idaho, Troy, and Georgia State (14).
Teams that are on the verge of being knocked out
South Florida, Tulane, UConn, Purdue, Army, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas Tech, Kansas, Iowa St., FAU, FIU, Old Dominion, UTSA, Southern Miss., North Texas, Fresno St., and Vanderbilt (18).
All teams listed above have 6 losses, games left on the schedule that they will most likely lose, and one more loss knocks each of them completely out of the division race (so no 6-7 bowl eligible possibilities)
So that leaves a total of 51 teams out there left in the mix fighting for 31 spots.
Key games next week (bold means we root for them to win):
NIU @ Ball St.
Buffalo @ Ohio
Utah St. @ Wyoming
Wisconsin @ Purdue
Penn St. @ Indiana
UTSA @ Rice
Duke @ Syracuse
Tulane @ Houston
West Virginia @ Texas
UTEP @ WKU
Marshall @ Southern Miss.
Florida @ Vanderbilt
San Jose St. @ Fresno St.
I agree nice work. You must be retired, or I need to find a job like yours.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - Hoekjeness - 11-04-2014 12:44 PM
(11-03-2014 04:28 PM)Cant make this sh t up Wrote: You must be retired, or I need to find a job like yours.
I work 8-5 weekdays (some evenings)... but you'll notice the time stamp says Sunday at 10:15 a.m. This is just the type of thing I enjoy doing on the weekends while watching football.
RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against - toddjnsn - 11-04-2014 12:52 PM
Quote:I work 8-5 weekdays
I think that's going to be WMU's final record. Coincidence? I think not...