(10-11-2014 10:22 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Kid is a playmaker and a winner. I like him. He has "that knack" and makes great decisions on big downs.

(10-11-2014 10:58 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I feel the same way about Fleck.

(10-11-2014 11:03 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 10:58 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I feel the same way about Fleck.

On the contrary, you've made it clear no matter how Fleck performs you want his hair BALDING gelled butt gone.

Quote:That said, I need to see more evidence before I'm all in on Terrel. I'm more than happy to see him become the next Tim Lester and leave me wondering how I didn't have faith in him all along.

(10-12-2014 12:27 AM)ghost bronco Wrote:  Wow calling a winning coach bald when the board is asleep. Classy

(10-11-2014 11:07 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 11:03 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 10:58 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I feel the same way about Fleck.

On the contrary, you've made it clear no matter how Fleck performs you want his hair BALDING gelled butt gone.

That aside which is true, I like you do ZT, wonder if Peej is the answer. One minute we look great, other's not so much. I need more evidence.

Quote:That said, I need to see more evidence before I'm all in on Terrel. I'm more than happy to see him become the next Tim Lester and leave me wondering how I didn't have faith in him all along.

(10-11-2014 10:35 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 10:22 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Kid is a playmaker and a winner. I like him. He has "that knack" and makes great decisions on big downs.

There are weeks when I believe Matt Stafford is the best QB in the NFL, and then the next week I wonder what the hell I was thinking.

That said, I need to see more evidence before I'm all in on Terrel. I'm more than happy to see him become the next Tim Lester and leave me wondering how I didn't have faith in him all along.

(10-11-2014 09:49 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Good
W @ Idaho: 10-15, 241 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 267.6 rating
L vs. Toledo: 30-37, 370 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 174.0 rating

Okay
W vs. Murray: 20-29, 228 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 139.5 rating
W @ Ball State: 20-29, 290 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 180.2 rating

Not Good
L @ Purdue: 23-41, 243 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 117.1 rating
L @ Va. Tech 18-32, 212 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 105.6 rating

I've been one of Terrell's biggest critics, but he has really been playing some good ball at crucial times, so I've got to give him credit.

Today's game against Ball St. wasn't his greatest, but it was enough to get the job done and help orchestrate a great comeback on the road. He showed me a lot after the Toledo game, and he fought through kind of a rough outing today in the first 25 minutes and got the ball into his play-makers' hands. Coaches are doing a nice job with that as well. In most cases, they're setting him up to be successful with good offensive play-calling.

He's always going to have accuracy issues, and maybe he'll eventually learn to get off his first read faster with experience... but if he can develop some consistency and continue not to try and do too much, I think he can lead this team to bowl eligibility. He's definitely improving day-by-day. He's having a gritty season.

(10-12-2014 10:58 AM)Cucumber Salad Wrote:  I mean if he is always going to have accuracy issues why bother with him? What would be the point of sticking with him? If the argument is your guy isn't ready but has the more accurate gun all he he has to do is "manage" as you say and let the playmakers you say make ZT good make the more accurate backup be even more successful.

Looks like the header has a different take then the naysayers who are
Now forced into left handed compliments.

LOL and in another attempt to CYA you attribute confirmation of ZT's mediocracy to a 4-8 record as a starter is tied directly to the person who has selected him to play. Go figure.

(10-12-2014 07:57 PM)Cucumber Salad Wrote:  No, you aren't blaming ZT.
But in tipping your hat to him you do so left handed as in a conditional compliment.

Fine but if is only 4-8 as a starter what is the coaching staff?
You laud them for adjustments, recruiting and play calling without a hint of condition. Why?
You talk about a low ceiling, inaccurate arm, not a playmaker every time you give him an atta boy. Always conditional.

The atta boy is only temporal. Difficult decision for the staff next spring! Why? If he is just a manager of the O, lolly pop arm and inaccurate to boot what does that say about either backup? And if the staffs decision to play him despite ZT being all that you claim what does that say about their competence?

Don't do too much? Like go 30-37 in a driving rain against possibly the best the MAC. Has to offer? Only to have the elite D get marched on in 1:11 to force a tie.

This isn't about you providing critical analysis or not. It's about you and others being disingenuous in your complimenting ZT.

(10-12-2014 09:15 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote:  Good ole noodle arm has the best passer rating in the Mac and 24th in the nation just behind Bryce Petty. Number 1 in the Mac in yards per attempt nationally ahead of Kenny Hill and bryce petty. also has the best completion percentage in the Mac.