What HBCU teams would you like to see in this super conference?

As someone who works part-time at an HBCU.

No man just no.

FAMU/Tennessee St/Jackson St/Southern/Grambling -- that 5 has too much blueblood-esque history to leave out.

Howard/Hampton and Alabama A&M/Alabama St rivalries are too iconic not to include. That brings you up to 9.

Prairie View A&M has been in the SWAC since the very beginning and has a super nice stadium. Texas Southern is their rival and has a great location in Houston. That brings you up to 11.

The 12th spot comes down to Alcorn St or North Carolina A&T -- modern powers. A&T is in much better shape financially and in institutional health.

(03-19-2024 06:54 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  As someone who works part-time at an HBCU.

No man just no.

Everytime an HBCU thread pops up, you come in with zero-value posts like this one that serve no purpose other than to crap all over them. You've also had borderline-racist posts in these HBCU threads before.

The ironic thing about you being so dismissive and belittling of HBCUs is that your view of them is a direct mirror of the quality of your posts: completely useless.

Hopefully, you'll do that HBCU institution and all the lovely people who work and study there a favor and resign. They deserve so much better than someone like you working there.

(03-19-2024 06:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  What HBCU teams would you like to see in this super conference?

It's an excellent concept and potentially could be a success in a number of aspects IF properly executed.

The biggest issue initially would be the animosity and resulting fallout shared by less-resourced HBCU's left in stripped-down conferences.

Those schools would be saddled with many of the same obstacles OSU and WSU are facing but with far fewer options.

To answer your question:

Alabama State
FAMU
Hampton
Howard
Jackson State
Morehouse move up from D2 and perhaps Spelman could revive intercollegiate athletics
NC A&T
Prairie View
South Carolina State
Southern
Tennessee State

(03-19-2024 07:00 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  FAMU/Tennessee St/Jackson St/Southern/Grambling -- that 5 has too much blueblood-esque history to leave out.

Howard/Hampton and Alabama A&M/Alabama St rivalries are too iconic not to include. That brings you up to 9.

Prairie View A&M has been in the SWAC since the very beginning and has a super nice stadium. Texas Southern is their rival and has a great location in Houston. That brings you up to 11.

The 12th spot comes down to Alcorn St or North Carolina A&T -- modern powers. A&T is in much better shape financially and in institutional health.

I agree. Those 12 seem to be the strongest at the moment. Alcorn State and Mississippi Valley State are about to face a financial reckoning. I'd say the rest from the MEAC and the SWAC would have to move down to D2.

I’d say start with the SWAC + Tenn St, NC A&T, NC Central, Norfolk St, Howard, and Hampton

Define oxymoron using a question.

(03-19-2024 06:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  What HBCU teams would you like to see in this super conference?

(03-19-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:54 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  As someone who works part-time at an HBCU.

No man just no.

Everytime an HBCU thread pops up, you come in with zero-value posts like this one that serve no purpose other than to crap all over them. You've also had borderline-racist posts in these HBCU threads before.

The ironic thing about you being so dismissive and belittling of HBCUs is that your view of them is a direct mirror of the quality of your posts: completely useless.

Hopefully, you'll do that HBCU institution and all the lovely people who work and study there a favor and resign. They deserve so much better than someone like you working there.

Because it's easy to sit on a keyboard and play college game of thrones while speaking on a topic you likely have no experience with. Many people have no clue of the challenges that the average HBCU has to face. And if you feel like calling me a racist then do what ever makes you feel better friend.

I'm a realist.

Let's examine Alabama A&M. The average Huntsville, AL resident cannot even tell you where the Alabama A&M campus is and that in itself is actually impressive considering Huntsville for the most part is just suburb sprawl, mountains, and military base. We don't get local support, we don't get state support, we don't get national support. So throwing us into a "Super" conference adds nothing of value that the SWAC does not already offer.

You also don't understand how important the regional rivalries are to the average HBCU fan as cultural events. For example, attend the Magic City Classic once in your life and you will see Legion Field packed with fans who are there for everything but the football game. You can travel to nearly every game on our schedule with a quick bus ride.

This is a death sentence to many of the HBCU athletic programs.

(03-19-2024 08:50 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:54 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  As someone who works part-time at an HBCU.

No man just no.

Everytime an HBCU thread pops up, you come in with zero-value posts like this one that serve no purpose other than to crap all over them. You've also had borderline-racist posts in these HBCU threads before.

The ironic thing about you being so dismissive and belittling of HBCUs is that your view of them is a direct mirror of the quality of your posts: completely useless.

Hopefully, you'll do that HBCU institution and all the lovely people who work and study there a favor and resign. They deserve so much better than someone like you working there.

Because it's easy to sit on a keyboard and play college game of thrones while speaking on a topic you likely have no experience with. Many people have no clue of the challenges that the average HBCU has to face. And if you feel like calling me a racist then do what ever makes you feel better friend.

I'm a realist.

Let's examine Alabama A&M. The average Huntsville, AL resident cannot even tell you where the Alabama A&M campus is and that in itself is actually impressive considering Huntsville for the most part is just suburb sprawl, mountains, and military base. We don't get local support, we don't get state support, we don't get national support. So throwing us into a "Super" conference adds nothing of value that the SWAC does not already offer.

You also don't understand how important the regional rivalries are to the average HBCU fan as cultural events. For example, attend the Magic City Classic once in your life and you will see Legion Field packed with fans who are there for everything but the football game. You can travel to nearly every game on our schedule with a quick bus ride.

You throw us into a "super" conference and you have teams with no history and no fans watching.

Don't make assumptions of what I know regarding HBCUs. I have tons of experience with HBCUs. I know the entire athletic histories of HBCUs (D-I, non-DI, defunct schools) inside-out - I would make your head spin if we went through it. You are breaking nothing to me. (Btw, I've been to multiple Magic City Classics -- I'm well aware.)

I actually agree there wouldn't be an HBCU super conference. That's not the issue with your posts (if they were all like this one, there wouldn't be an issue at all). The issue is your past history everytime the topic of HBCUs pops up, you drive-by with a dismissive, insulting post towards HBCUs that serves no purpose other than to belittle them. Your first reply in this thread indicated an intention to continue that pattern.

(03-19-2024 07:16 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  What HBCU teams would you like to see in this super conference?

It's an excellent concept and potentially could be a success in a number of aspects IF properly executed.

The biggest issue initially would be the animosity and resulting fallout shared by less-resourced HBCU's left in stripped-down conferences.

Those schools would be saddled with many of the same obstacles OSU and WSU are facing but with far fewer options.

To answer your question:

Alabama State
FAMU
Hampton
Howard
Jackson State
Morehouse move up from D2 and perhaps Spelman could revive intercollegiate athletics
NC A&T
Prairie View
South Carolina State
Southern
Tennessee State

A strong list, P-Chop.

Well done.

(03-19-2024 08:50 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:54 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  As someone who works part-time at an HBCU.

No man just no.

Everytime an HBCU thread pops up, you come in with zero-value posts like this one that serve no purpose other than to crap all over them. You've also had borderline-racist posts in these HBCU threads before.

The ironic thing about you being so dismissive and belittling of HBCUs is that your view of them is a direct mirror of the quality of your posts: completely useless.

Hopefully, you'll do that HBCU institution and all the lovely people who work and study there a favor and resign. They deserve so much better than someone like you working there.

Because it's easy to sit on a keyboard and play college game of thrones while speaking on a topic you likely have no experience with. Many people have no clue of the challenges that the average HBCU has to face. And if you feel like calling me a racist then do what ever makes you feel better friend.

I'm a realist.

Let's examine Alabama A&M. The average Huntsville, AL resident cannot even tell you where the Alabama A&M campus is and that in itself is actually impressive considering Huntsville for the most part is just suburb sprawl, mountains, and military base. We don't get local support, we don't get state support, we don't get national support. So throwing us into a "Super" conference adds nothing of value that the SWAC does not already offer.

You also don't understand how important the regional rivalries are to the average HBCU fan as cultural events. For example, attend the Magic City Classic once in your life and you will see Legion Field packed with fans who are there for everything but the football game. You can travel to nearly every game on our schedule with a quick bus ride.

This is a death sentence to many of the HBCU athletic programs.

On the "Huntsville sprawl" theme, I understand various public and private sector officials in the city are working to bring more development to the urban core. While watching drone-taken videos of Huntsville from the past five years or so, I've seen some new construction downtown. The city is improving as an urbanized place in an encouraging way.

Huntsville offers a solid urban core (notwithstanding the lack of buildings 10 floors and taller). It's fairly charming, walkable and visually interesting. There is some potential. But there is, no doubt, a long way to go.

Nobody is talking about schools like Clark Atlanta, Tuskegee and Virginia State. They are strong D2 schools. Tuskegee strong rivals are Alabama State. When those two play games? It is a packed crowd.

(03-19-2024 07:16 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  What HBCU teams would you like to see in this super conference?

It's an excellent concept and potentially could be a success in a number of aspects IF properly executed.

The biggest issue initially would be the animosity and resulting fallout shared by less-resourced HBCU's left in stripped-down conferences.

Those schools would be saddled with many of the same obstacles OSU and WSU are facing but with far fewer options.

To answer your question:

Alabama State
FAMU
Hampton
Howard
Jackson State
Morehouse move up from D2 and perhaps Spelman could revive intercollegiate athletics
NC A&T
Prairie View
South Carolina State
Southern
Tennessee State

Alabama A&M
Alabama State
Alcorn State

Arkansas Pine Bluff
Bethune Cookman
FAMU
Grambling State

Hampton
Howard
Jackson State
North Carolina A&T

North Carolina Central
Prairie View
South Carolina State
Southern

*Tennessee State

(03-19-2024 09:40 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  On the "Huntsville sprawl" theme, I understand various public and private sector officials in the city are working to bring more development to the urban core. While watching drone-taken videos of Huntsville from the past five years or so, I've seen some new construction downtown. The city is improving as an urbanized place in an encouraging way.

Huntsville offers a solid urban core (notwithstanding the lack of buildings 10 floors and taller). It's fairly charming, walkable and visually interesting. There is some potential. But there is, no doubt, a long way to go.

Found these numbers fascinating. I'm a born-and-bred Southerner and know Alabama fairly well, but I had no idea about Huntsville's growth over a relatively short time.

Birmingham: 1950 (326k); 2020 (201k)
Montgomery: 1950 (107k); 2020 (201k)
Mobile: 1950 (129k); 2020 (187k)
Huntsville: 1950 (16k); 2020 (215k)

No doubt these numbers are impacted by white flight and skewered by annexation of unincorporated areas among a variety of factors, but still Huntsville's growth from a big town/small city is remarkable.

Off the top of my head, I'm wondering if there's anything else equal to it in the South?

(03-19-2024 08:50 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  The average Huntsville, AL resident cannot even tell you where the Alabama A&M campus

Guessing black Huntsville residents — nearly a third of the city's population and much more likely to be familiar with A&M — can tell someone where the campus is located

(03-19-2024 08:50 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 07:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:54 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  As someone who works part-time at an HBCU.

No man just no.

Everytime an HBCU thread pops up, you come in with zero-value posts like this one that serve no purpose other than to crap all over them. You've also had borderline-racist posts in these HBCU threads before.

The ironic thing about you being so dismissive and belittling of HBCUs is that your view of them is a direct mirror of the quality of your posts: completely useless.

Hopefully, you'll do that HBCU institution and all the lovely people who work and study there a favor and resign. They deserve so much better than someone like you working there.

Because it's easy to sit on a keyboard and play college game of thrones while speaking on a topic you likely have no experience with. Many people have no clue of the challenges that the average HBCU has to face. And if you feel like calling me a racist then do what ever makes you feel better friend.

I'm a realist.

Let's examine Alabama A&M. The average Huntsville, AL resident cannot even tell you where the Alabama A&M campus is and that in itself is actually impressive considering Huntsville for the most part is just suburb sprawl, mountains, and military base. We don't get local support, we don't get state support, we don't get national support. So throwing us into a "Super" conference adds nothing of value that the SWAC does not already offer.

You also don't understand how important the regional rivalries are to the average HBCU fan as cultural events. For example, attend the Magic City Classic once in your life and you will see Legion Field packed with fans who are there for everything but the football game. You can travel to nearly every game on our schedule with a quick bus ride.

This is a death sentence to many of the HBCU athletic programs.

Well written post sir!! I remember when FAMU tried to go to FBS once. I was in favor of the move because Troy and FAMU had a nice little rivalry going back when Troy was still in FBS. However, it all fell apart for FAMU, and probably for reasons similar to what you covered in your post. I felt bad for FAMU, but in the end, it worked out for the best because FAMU is in the SWAC now, a true HBCU superconference, IMO.

(03-20-2024 01:41 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 07:16 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 06:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  What HBCU teams would you like to see in this super conference?

It's an excellent concept and potentially could be a success in a number of aspects IF properly executed.

The biggest issue initially would be the animosity and resulting fallout shared by less-resourced HBCU's left in stripped-down conferences.

Those schools would be saddled with many of the same obstacles OSU and WSU are facing but with far fewer options.

To answer your question:

Alabama State
FAMU
Hampton
Howard
Jackson State
Morehouse move up from D2 and perhaps Spelman could revive intercollegiate athletics
NC A&T
Prairie View
South Carolina State
Southern
Tennessee State

Alabama A&M
Alabama State
Alcorn State

Arkansas Pine Bluff
Bethune Cookman
FAMU
Grambling State

Hampton
Howard
Jackson State
North Carolina A&T

North Carolina Central
Prairie View
South Carolina State
Southern

*Tennessee State

add Texas Southern