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(03-13-2024 11:48 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  We win 72-61!!!!

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Our 17th double-digit conference win.
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LOL. Listening in the web, still a minute to go in the game and ESPN has had the final score posted for over 5 min.

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This is the third year in a row that the Rockets haven't been ready to go against an 8 seed.

Our post advantage disappeared since no one was able or willing to guard WMU's center outside the three-point arc, requiring Cullop to go small.
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Buffalo up 36-30 on BG at the half. Buffalo has led by as much as 13. Buffalo not really electing to rebound, otherwise this game wouldn’t be close.
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(03-13-2024 12:44 PM)Lester Wrote:  This is the third year in a row that the Rockets haven't been ready to go against an 8 seed.

Our post advantage disappeared since no one was able or willing to guard WMU's center outside the three-point arc, requiring Cullop to go small.

Won the 2nd half by 21... Cook kept us in the game, but that's what you do when the game goes a certain way. Keeping the 5s fresh will be important. Not our fault WMU has one gal over 6'1 they play. Ohio is similar. Emi and Sammi Deing up their 4 and 5 worked out well I'd say.
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(03-13-2024 02:01 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(03-13-2024 12:44 PM)Lester Wrote:  This is the third year in a row that the Rockets haven't been ready to go against an 8 seed.

Our post advantage disappeared since no one was able or willing to guard WMU's center outside the three-point arc, requiring Cullop to go small.

Won the 2nd half by 21... Cook kept us in the game, but that's what you do when the game goes a certain way. Keeping the 5s fresh will be important. Not our fault WMU has one gal over 6'1 they play. Ohio is similar. Emi and Sammi Deing up their 4 and 5 worked out well I'd say.

I'd rather see it be WMU's problem that they can't match up with us inside, rather than our problem that our centers can't guard anyone on the opposing team.
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Rockets will play Buffalo on Friday. The Bulls looked like a very different team than the one we saw in Savage this year. Watson was only fair. The rest of the team contributed significantly, unlike against the Rockets.
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Don't understand why the rockets can't seem to play well early in the game. First quarter is always a problem regardless who they play against. Sems like a veteran team could figure that out.
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Cardiac quarterfinals again.

Give Clipfell credit. He's a good xs and os coach, and he came up with some schemes that worked to perfection in the 1st half. As for the problem with UT's 5s guarding the three, that was more of a scheme issue than a personnel one - both Cullop Clipfell talked about that in their pressers. UT's scheme is to switch 1-4, and have the 5 defend the paint and ice screens and not switch. WMU's plan was to exploit that, given their 2 best three point shooters are both bigs, so they tried to get them open on screens for threes, when they knew the typical UT scheme would not be to go out and get them. And with 2 different bigs that can shoot that just made it that much harder. At times UT bigs did go out to cover the arc, but then the paint was open for back cuts and the other UT defenders were not used to not having a big back there to cover. Strangely, not having Saxman for this game may have helped them in this regard, because she's not at all a good three point shooter, but without her, they often had 5 players on the floor that can hit the three.

On the defensive end, WMU was playing a total new D, starting out in a zone and then half-way thru the possession switching to man. Again both pressers mentioned that. Cullop said they didn't handle that well in the 1st half as they were not patient enough. And of course, WMU's threes were falling, while UT's weren't.

But, UT has been masterful at adjusting in the 2nd half this year and did so again. Everyone stepped up in the 2nd half - Q & Sammi on offense, and Emmi, Khera and Jess on D, and Soph was her steady self. Cullop said she basically left Wiard to herself to run the offense this game.

Glad there is a day of rest because many of the UT players looked really gassed at the end. Buffalo next will not be easy. Honestly, would have rather played BG, but BG made a complete mess out of the end of that game. I'm hoping it's not a nail biter, as I am too old for those things.
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(03-13-2024 08:05 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Cardiac quarterfinals again.

Give Clipfell credit. He's a good xs and os coach, and he came up with some schemes that worked to perfection in the 1st half. As for the problem with UT's 5s guarding the three, that was more of a scheme issue than a personnel one - both Cullop Clipfell talked about that in their pressers. UT's scheme is to switch 1-4, and have the 5 defend the paint and ice screens and not switch. WMU's plan was to exploit that, given their 2 best three point shooters are both bigs, so they tried to get them open on screens for threes, when they knew the typical UT scheme would not be to go out and get them. And with 2 different bigs that can shoot that just made it that much harder. At times UT bigs did go out to cover the arc, but then the paint was open for back cuts and the other UT defenders were not used to not having a big back there to cover. Strangely, not having Saxman for this game may have helped them in this regard, because she's not at all a good three point shooter, but without her, they often had 5 players on the floor that can hit the three.

On the defensive end, WMU was playing a total new D, starting out in a zone and then half-way thru the possession switching to man. Again both pressers mentioned that. Cullop said they didn't handle that well in the 1st half as they were not patient enough. And of course, WMU's threes were falling, while UT's weren't.

But, UT has been masterful at adjusting in the 2nd half this year and did so again. Everyone stepped up in the 2nd half - Q & Sammi on offense, and Emmi, Khera and Jess on D, and Soph was her steady self. Cullop said she basically left Wiard to herself to run the offense this game.

Glad there is a day of rest because many of the UT players looked really gassed at the end. Buffalo next will not be easy. Honestly, would have rather played BG, but BG made a complete mess out of the end of that game. I'm hoping it's not a nail biter, as I am too old for those things.

And Cullop could have countered that offensive scheme by playing some zone defense, which would have allowed Noveroske to play. Noveroske had four points in four minutes and would have continued to dominate on the offensive end, if given the opportunity. Cullop, though, is inflexible, unlike Clipfell. I love Cullop, but I think we were out-coached today. We had to adjust to their lineup, which was not to our advantage. Luckily, our players are enough better than Western's that things worked out OK in the end. Great second half for Sammi.
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(03-13-2024 08:24 PM)Lester Wrote:  
(03-13-2024 08:05 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Cardiac quarterfinals again.

Give Clipfell credit. He's a good xs and os coach, and he came up with some schemes that worked to perfection in the 1st half. As for the problem with UT's 5s guarding the three, that was more of a scheme issue than a personnel one - both Cullop Clipfell talked about that in their pressers. UT's scheme is to switch 1-4, and have the 5 defend the paint and ice screens and not switch. WMU's plan was to exploit that, given their 2 best three point shooters are both bigs, so they tried to get them open on screens for threes, when they knew the typical UT scheme would not be to go out and get them. And with 2 different bigs that can shoot that just made it that much harder. At times UT bigs did go out to cover the arc, but then the paint was open for back cuts and the other UT defenders were not used to not having a big back there to cover. Strangely, not having Saxman for this game may have helped them in this regard, because she's not at all a good three point shooter, but without her, they often had 5 players on the floor that can hit the three.

On the defensive end, WMU was playing a total new D, starting out in a zone and then half-way thru the possession switching to man. Again both pressers mentioned that. Cullop said they didn't handle that well in the 1st half as they were not patient enough. And of course, WMU's threes were falling, while UT's weren't.

But, UT has been masterful at adjusting in the 2nd half this year and did so again. Everyone stepped up in the 2nd half - Q & Sammi on offense, and Emmi, Khera and Jess on D, and Soph was her steady self. Cullop said she basically left Wiard to herself to run the offense this game.

Glad there is a day of rest because many of the UT players looked really gassed at the end. Buffalo next will not be easy. Honestly, would have rather played BG, but BG made a complete mess out of the end of that game. I'm hoping it's not a nail biter, as I am too old for those things.

And Cullop could have countered that offensive scheme by playing some zone defense, which would have allowed Noveroske to play. Noveroske had four points in four minutes and would have continued to dominate on the offensive end, if given the opportunity. Cullop, though, is inflexible, unlike Clipfell. I love Cullop, but I think we were out-coached today. We had to adjust to their lineup, which was not to our advantage. Luckily, our players are enough better than Western's that things worked out OK in the end. Great second half for Sammi.

But ... she did make adjustments, just not the one you wanted her too I guess. And it worked, as they held WMU to 19 second half points, and 1 made three. Given the team has never played a zone all season, putting one in during the middle of a tournament game doesn't sound like the best idea to me.
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(03-13-2024 08:43 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  
(03-13-2024 08:24 PM)Lester Wrote:  
(03-13-2024 08:05 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Cardiac quarterfinals again.

Give Clipfell credit. He's a good xs and os coach, and he came up with some schemes that worked to perfection in the 1st half. As for the problem with UT's 5s guarding the three, that was more of a scheme issue than a personnel one - both Cullop Clipfell talked about that in their pressers. UT's scheme is to switch 1-4, and have the 5 defend the paint and ice screens and not switch. WMU's plan was to exploit that, given their 2 best three point shooters are both bigs, so they tried to get them open on screens for threes, when they knew the typical UT scheme would not be to go out and get them. And with 2 different bigs that can shoot that just made it that much harder. At times UT bigs did go out to cover the arc, but then the paint was open for back cuts and the other UT defenders were not used to not having a big back there to cover. Strangely, not having Saxman for this game may have helped them in this regard, because she's not at all a good three point shooter, but without her, they often had 5 players on the floor that can hit the three.

On the defensive end, WMU was playing a total new D, starting out in a zone and then half-way thru the possession switching to man. Again both pressers mentioned that. Cullop said they didn't handle that well in the 1st half as they were not patient enough. And of course, WMU's threes were falling, while UT's weren't.

But, UT has been masterful at adjusting in the 2nd half this year and did so again. Everyone stepped up in the 2nd half - Q & Sammi on offense, and Emmi, Khera and Jess on D, and Soph was her steady self. Cullop said she basically left Wiard to herself to run the offense this game.

Glad there is a day of rest because many of the UT players looked really gassed at the end. Buffalo next will not be easy. Honestly, would have rather played BG, but BG made a complete mess out of the end of that game. I'm hoping it's not a nail biter, as I am too old for those things.

And Cullop could have countered that offensive scheme by playing some zone defense, which would have allowed Noveroske to play. Noveroske had four points in four minutes and would have continued to dominate on the offensive end, if given the opportunity. Cullop, though, is inflexible, unlike Clipfell. I love Cullop, but I think we were out-coached today. We had to adjust to their lineup, which was not to our advantage. Luckily, our players are enough better than Western's that things worked out OK in the end. Great second half for Sammi.

But ... she did make adjustments, just not the one you wanted her too I guess. And it worked, as they held WMU to 19 second half points, and 1 made three. Given the team has never played a zone all season, putting one in during the middle of a tournament game doesn't sound like the best idea to me.

I agree that trying a new defense that they had never practiced would be a bad idea. I think it would be a good idea to practice and play that defense enough that it is a viable option. Yes, the adjustment worked to the extent that we beat an inferior team. I do give credit for the adjustment, but I still think we were outcoached. You never want to be surprised by something that takes an entire half to adjust to and that leads to a ten-point halftime deficit against a far inferior team. I would say that just about every team in the conference has a zone defense in its back pocket to pull out when necessary, except us.
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Go women, 2 more games and UT is dancing again !
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