Title IX needs to be reformed. It has become something very different than its original intent and is now in many respects an impediment to actual equality and certainly no longer fair. It is a product of its era. The conditions and facts on the ground have changed dramatically. We now face a shortage of men in higher education, and barriers to their opportunities need to be removed to balance things.

We see how perverse the result is when instead of achieving its objective of trying to equalize opportunity for women, it creates a number of unproductive "make work" jobs for women. The men in paid employee athlete schools are in a pre-professional track, much like those in say Nursing. But the women are almost all in a diploma mill equivalent for athletic roles without a legitimate athletic career path (as opposed to converting to a trainer or PE coach which you could do from any current athletic program at any level). That is a distortion of economics, and defies common sense.

Times change, and so should laws that govern those times.

(03-14-2024 03:47 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Title IX needs to be reformed. It has become something very different than its original intent and is now in many respects an impediment to actual equality and certainly no longer fair. It is a product of its era. The conditions and facts on the ground have changed dramatically. We now face a shortage of men in higher education, and barriers to their opportunities need to be removed to balance things.

We see how perverse the result is when instead of achieving its objective of trying to equalize opportunity for women, it instead creates a number of unproductive "make work" jobs for women. The men in paid employee athlete schools are in a pre-professional track, much like those in say Nursing. But the women are almost all in a diploma mill equivalent for athletics role without a legitimate athletic career path (as opposed to converting to a trainer or PE coach which you could do from any current athletic program at any level). That is a distortion of economics, and defies common sense.

Times change, and so should laws that govern those times.

Exactly. Lets start with the simple fact that the number of women in college has increased to the point where they substantially outnumber the men in college.

When all this started, it was because there were legitimate concerns that women were not getting the opportunities they deserved to enter institutions of higher learning. In fact, the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis penned a 2022 article than indicated that in 1970 men represented 59% of the nations college student body. Today, those percentages are actually almost perfectly reversed---with women outnumbering men in college by roughly the same degree. Given those numbers----maybe its time we start getting concerned about the low numbers of men in college and look to see if systemic reasons for that inequality exists within the higher education system. At the very least---its probably time to reduce or remove any gender preferences in place that might disadvantage males attempting to go to college.

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-econom...nrollment.

(03-14-2024 03:17 AM)giesing Wrote:  Universities just should outsource revenue generating sport teams and shut down the entire athletic department with their scholarship sports. Just offering intramural sports for the students, who want to do sports. Let's say football, mens basketball, mens hockey and maybe mens baseball are organized by a subcontractor. He has to field the team, license the brand and has to rent the faculities. Unsiversities are paying the contractors. It's a complete different entity aside from the university. It's like a university is hiring a PR firm or an advertisement agency. These costs are filed as marketing expenses.

The athletes paid by the contractors do not necesesarily need to be students, but they can install a age threshold. Let's 25 (only for BYU ).

It seem's to be radical thinking, but look at the universities and their presidents with their sunday speeches. Student education, learning beeing a good citizen, sustainbility. bla bla bla. But flying sports teams to Hawaii and all across the continent. What a bunch of hypocrites.

So universities would be licensing their logos (and I guess renting their facilities) to minor league franchise owners? Why would baseball and hockey operators do this when there is already a robust minor league system? How long would it be before college athletics is dead? Before students and alumni recognize the teams as not really a part of the school? Before people view the Ohio States and Alabamas of the world to be nothing more than equals to the Toledo Mud Hens and Hershey Bears? What happens when attendance, tv ratings, and interest inevitably dry up?

College sports matters, it matters to the students, alumni, and school communities. It is part of the fabric of the country. Professionalizing it will kill it.