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Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
Proposal floated gives SEC and B1G about 29% of CFP revenue each, ACC and B12 get around 15%, G4 and ND get 10%.
Pretty close to what I thought with regarc to Ps and Ms, though I didn't think Gs would get cut.
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03-08-2024 12:30 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 12:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Proposal floated gives SEC and B1G about 29% of CFP revenue each, ACC and B12 get around 15%, G4 and ND get 10%.
Pretty close to what I thought with regarc to Ps and Ms, though I didn't think Gs would get cut.
Who are the G4?
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03-08-2024 12:36 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
There's a bit in this article besides payout negotiations.
- Talks of 2/2/1/1/1+7 and 5+9 in addition to the 3/3/2/2/1+3 for a 14 team CFP.
- Clemson quietly planning an ACC escape.
- Not new, if ESPN doesn't exercise the ACC media contract, the magnificent 7 potentially reforming a smaller league
(my opinion, add Louisville, need 8 teams for CFP & NCAA, and keep ND olympic sports plus a 4 game scheduling agreement for football, maybe Duke too because basketball)
- Another mention of AAC and MWC viewed as above the rest of G5
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03-08-2024 12:49 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 12:19 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:
may the SEC and B1G rot. college football is dead. hello NFL and free time on weekends.
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03-08-2024 01:09 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 12:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Proposal floated gives SEC and B1G about 29% of CFP revenue each, ACC and B12 get around 15%, G4 and ND get 10%
What will those percentages be once the SEC and BIG gut the ACC like a Carolina Mountain Trout?
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03-08-2024 01:26 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
Ross’s follow up tweet:
“ In a CFP revenue model being socialized, SEC & Big Ten would combine to earn 58% of the $1.3B in revenue and ACC & Big 12 would split 32%, sources tell @YahooSports.
A far stretch from the former model, which saw the Power 5 split evenly 80% of the base”
This proposal shouldn’t be shocking to anyone. I still think it’s better than a P2 split.
With realignment this should have been expected. I’m more shocked that fans are shocked. It’s been trending towards this for awhile.
As a bias UCF fan, I’m okay being middle class with playoff autobids. I’m hoping Miami gets stuck in middle class with us as unlikely as that is. The ACC and Big 12 have an easier path to the playoff and the revenue distribution reflects that.
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03-08-2024 01:26 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 01:26 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote: (03-08-2024 12:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Proposal floated gives SEC and B1G about 29% of CFP revenue each, ACC and B12 get around 15%, G4 and ND get 10%
What will those percentages be once the SEC and BIG gut the ACC like a Carolina Mountain Trout?
According to you they'd probably go down
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03-08-2024 01:28 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 12:49 PM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote: There's a bit in this article besides payout negotiations.
- Talks of 2/2/1/1/1+7 and 5+9 in addition to the 3/3/2/2/1+3 for a 14 team CFP.
- Clemson quietly planning an ACC escape.
- Not new, if ESPN doesn't exercise the ACC media contract, the magnificent 7 potentially reforming a smaller league
(my opinion, add Louisville, need 8 teams for CFP & NCAA, and keep ND olympic sports plus a 4 game scheduling agreement for football, maybe Duke too because basketball)
- Another mention of AAC and MWC viewed as above the rest of G5
Here is the mention:
“I’m watching this real-life curing of conferences,” Washington State president Kirk Schulz, the Pac-12 representative on the CFP Board of Managers, told Yahoo Sports last month. “You have the Big Ten and SEC and then drop down a level to ACC and Big 12 and then you drop down to Mountain West and AAC, at least in terms of football. Pac-12 is somewhere in all that."
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03-08-2024 01:36 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
IMO, this is the biggest article to come out this year. Those numbers are ridiculous! There are so many changing parts with college football right now, it's hard to keep up and enjoy the game.
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03-08-2024 01:37 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
from the article:
“The contract is expected to include a definitive “look-in” provision in 2028. The look-in provision can be triggered before that date from any conference realignment — a provision that Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark encouraged to be added, according to those familiar with the discussions.”
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03-08-2024 01:37 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 01:28 PM)esayem Wrote: (03-08-2024 01:26 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote: (03-08-2024 12:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Proposal floated gives SEC and B1G about 29% of CFP revenue each, ACC and B12 get around 15%, G4 and ND get 10%
What will those percentages be once the SEC and BIG gut the ACC like a Carolina Mountain Trout?
According to you they'd probably go down
Merge the ACC and Big 12 and you get back to 30%
The Great Consolidation League!
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03-08-2024 01:38 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
I mean this is to be expected, no? The Big Ten and SEC are going to gobble up as much money as possible because they very well know the bubble will be popping in the next 10 years.
I keep thinking that maybe one day some sensible administrators will finally separate college football into its own entity and allow Olympic sports conferences to get back to normal. Everyone knows it's complete idiocy to have West Coast teams playing in Eastern and Midwestern conferences with numbers beyond feasible round robins.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2024 01:40 PM by esayem.)
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03-08-2024 01:39 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 12:49 PM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote: Clemson quietly planning an ACC escape
Betcha they ain’t the only ones
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03-08-2024 01:43 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 01:39 PM)esayem Wrote: I mean this is to be expected, no? The Big Ten and SEC are going to gobble up as much money as possible because they very well know the bubble will be popping in the next 10 years.
I keep thinking that maybe one day some sensible administrators will finally separate college football into its own entity and allow Olympic sports conferences to get back to normal. Everyone knows it's complete idiocy to have West Coast teams playing in Eastern and Midwestern conferences with numbers beyond feasible round robins.
So is this the beginning of the end?
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03-08-2024 01:44 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
I would like to add a proposal. 5/4/2+3
Top 5 conference champs (top 2 champs get a bye)
Top 4 conference runners-up
Top 2 conference 3rd place finishers
Top 3 At-large
(Maybe you consolidate the last 2 to 5 at-large, 5/4+5)
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03-08-2024 01:45 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 01:09 PM)ren.hoek Wrote: (03-08-2024 12:19 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:
may the SEC and B1G rot. college football is dead. hello NFL and free time on weekends.
The revenue offer from the SEC and B1G is harsh. They have power and are taking full advantage. It’s proposing to add another $10M per year gap in playoff revenues between SEC/B1G and ACC/B12 schools. To make their conferences the financial winners regardless of on-field performance. They clearly want to fully subjugate the ACC….using it as a developmental league for when they need to expand.
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
I don't think we're ever going back to where olympic sports conferences are double round robins for basketball. Why not? Because it works. You can avoid playing dregs in the conference which help your SOS out. See Wake Forest this year as a good example. 3 bad teams in the confrence, but only play 4 games vs those 3.
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03-08-2024 01:48 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
Massive revenue split here... something is up.
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03-08-2024 01:51 PM |
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RE: Ross Dellenger: CFP draws a Formal Line between Power 2 and Other 2
(03-08-2024 01:44 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (03-08-2024 01:39 PM)esayem Wrote: I mean this is to be expected, no? The Big Ten and SEC are going to gobble up as much money as possible because they very well know the bubble will be popping in the next 10 years.
I keep thinking that maybe one day some sensible administrators will finally separate college football into its own entity and allow Olympic sports conferences to get back to normal. Everyone knows it's complete idiocy to have West Coast teams playing in Eastern and Midwestern conferences with numbers beyond feasible round robins.
So is this the beginning of the end?
People who root for this stuff aren't really paying attention. Eventually the only way to increase their "P2" payouts is to shed many of the SEC and Big Ten hanger-ons that are below the value equivalent of the Mendoza Line. The only thing constant is that certain entities live to increase their paycheck numbers at all costs. Tradition, travel, logistics tend not to matter. Tennessee would leave Vanderbilt in a heartbeat. Michigan wouldn't think twice about dropping Michigan State. Unless something changes, this is the trajectory we are on.
I also fail to see the value in a bloated second tier conference vs two more regional based conferences. IMO this is why the C-USA/AAC-MWC merger never got done. The money didn't make sense to haul all the other sports across the nation. It didn't make sense for conference tournaments. It's just logistical cluster blank
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