I know its not good to jump ahead of ourselves when it comes to Toledo Men's Basketball but I would like for the following scenario to play out over the next 9 days:

Tomorrow Night/Quarter Finals - Toledo beats Kent, Akron beats WMU, and BG beats Ball St - That would put Toledo as the #1 Seed and playing the #8 Seed WMU in the Quarter Finals. If both Toledo and WMU win, that means we will face Kent State as the 8th Seed for 2 consecutive games which as we saw a few years ago against Ball St turned out to be a real struggle. If Toledo, Akron, and Ball St all win, we will face Ball St with the Big Guy Bershear who is difficult to defend. He is currently hurt and I do not know his status for the Tournament. I would much rather face a rebuilding WMU who we handled easily early in the season.

Semis -If that scenario plays out, we would then play the winner of the 4/5 Game which is most likely CMU/BG in the Semis. This matchup would be much preferable than if we are the Second Seed and have to face most likely #3 Ohio which is playing as well as anyone in the league right now in the Semis.

If all goes to plan, we would then most likely face Akron in the Finals which will be a very tough game, but one that we are capable of winning if we play up to our potential which is easier said then done.

I know this is only speculation and from past history, no Tournament Game for Toledo is ever easy which is an understatement. Regardless, it should be a fun and hopefully not to bumpy a ride for Toledo over the next 9 days! Enjoy!

First things first, Kent State tomorrow night. Their 6-7 forward, best rebounder, shot blocker Payton is out for the season I believe. Hornbeak, 6-9 from Toledo is back, which he was not available the last time the Rockets played them in Kent. I don't see Akron losing at WMU.

(03-07-2024 03:32 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  First things first, Kent State tomorrow night. Their 6-7 forward, best rebounder, shot blocker Payton is out for the season I believe. Hornbeak, 6-9 from Toledo is back, which he was not available the last time the Rockets played them in Kent. I don't see Akron losing at WMU.

Hornbeak was a problem for us last year. Forgot he was out in 1st game.

(03-07-2024 01:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  I know its not good to jump ahead of ourselves when it comes to Toledo Men's Basketball but I would like for the following scenario to play out over the next 9 days:

Tomorrow Night/Quarter Finals - Toledo beats Kent, Akron beats WMU, and BG beats Ball St - That would put Toledo as the #1 Seed and playing the #8 Seed WMU in the Quarter Finals. If both Toledo and WMU win, that means we will face Kent State as the 8th Seed for 2 consecutive games which as we saw a few years ago against Ball St turned out to be a real struggle. If Toledo, Akron, and Ball St all win, we will face Ball St with the Big Guy Bershear who is difficult to defend. He is currently hurt and I do not know his status for the Tournament. I would much rather face a rebuilding WMU who we handled easily early in the season.

Semis -If that scenario plays out, we would then play the winner of the 4/5 Game which is most likely CMU/BG in the Semis. This matchup would be much preferable than if we are the Second Seed and have to face most likely #3 Ohio which is playing as well as anyone in the league right now in the Semis.

If all goes to plan, we would then most likely face Akron in the Finals which will be a very tough game, but one that we are capable of winning if we play up to our potential which is easier said then done.

I know this is only speculation and from past history, no Tournament Game for Toledo is ever easy which is an understatement. Regardless, it should be a fun and hopefully not to bumpy a ride for Toledo over the next 9 days! Enjoy!

Great breakdown. I hope it works that way!!! Good odds that it will. Where is Miami in your breakdown? Did I miss something? I'm a superstitious guy so I'm keeping my routine (wear same socks till we lose type of guy) and am hoping we just squeak it out.

Man - I hope we're ready. Big game on CBS Sports. That's confusing too. I saw it listed on CBS Sports on UTRockets.com/schedule but still listed at 7:00 on ESPN+. It must be on CBS since there's no need to change time for ESPN Plus. I'm going to game per UT schedule at 8:00 so hopefully not arriving at halftime.

Go Rockets!!

(03-07-2024 03:56 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  

(03-07-2024 01:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  I know its not good to jump ahead of ourselves when it comes to Toledo Men's Basketball but I would like for the following scenario to play out over the next 9 days:

Tomorrow Night/Quarter Finals - Toledo beats Kent, Akron beats WMU, and BG beats Ball St - That would put Toledo as the #1 Seed and playing the #8 Seed WMU in the Quarter Finals. If both Toledo and WMU win, that means we will face Kent State as the 8th Seed for 2 consecutive games which as we saw a few years ago against Ball St turned out to be a real struggle. If Toledo, Akron, and Ball St all win, we will face Ball St with the Big Guy Bershear who is difficult to defend. He is currently hurt and I do not know his status for the Tournament. I would much rather face a rebuilding WMU who we handled easily early in the season.

Semis -If that scenario plays out, we would then play the winner of the 4/5 Game which is most likely CMU/BG in the Semis. This matchup would be much preferable than if we are the Second Seed and have to face most likely #3 Ohio which is playing as well as anyone in the league right now in the Semis.

If all goes to plan, we would then most likely face Akron in the Finals which will be a very tough game, but one that we are capable of winning if we play up to our potential which is easier said then done.

I know this is only speculation and from past history, no Tournament Game for Toledo is ever easy which is an understatement. Regardless, it should be a fun and hopefully not to bumpy a ride for Toledo over the next 9 days! Enjoy!

Great breakdown. I hope it works that way!!! Good odds that it will. Where is Miami in your breakdown? Did I miss something? I'm a superstitious guy so I'm keeping my routine (wear same socks till we lose type of guy) and am hoping we just squeak it out.

Man - I hope we're ready. Big game on CBS Sports. That's confusing too. I saw it listed on CBS Sports on UTRockets.com/schedule but still listed at 7:00 on ESPN+. It must be on CBS since there's no need to change time for ESPN Plus. I'm going to game per UT schedule at 8:00 so hopefully not arriving at halftime.

Go Rockets!!

BG is currently the 5th Seed and Miami the 6th Seed at 9-8. If they both win at home against Ball St and Ohio U respectively Friday night, BG gets the 5th Seed if Toledo is the 1 Seed and Miami gets the 5th Seed if Akron is the 1 Seed because of their respective records against these common opponents,i.e. BG 1-1 against Toledo & 0-1 against Akron. Miami 0-2 against Toledo & 1-0 against Akron.

This is the year I really enjoy the conferences playoffs. Besides the MAC, I also will watch the semi's and finals of the Horizon, starting with the 2nd round of the Big 10, and the A10 semi's and final. I tried take in the Missouri Valley as well, if able to. After that, I have been to the first 4 in of the NCAA 1st round in Dayton. Right now it's cost prohibited, it's all resale on the NCAA Ticketmaster site, until the schools that are invited turn some of those tickets back in, 1 day before the tourney starts. The tickets normally will come way down. On those 2 nights, a 12:00 am ending is tough to get up the next day for work.

I didn't expect much this season, but they proved me wrong. Here we are, with a chance to dance. You can't ask for much more than that. Are our freshmen now sophomores in March as the old saying goes? Can our height challenged inside guys get it done? We are soon to find out. The next month, no matter what happens with the Rockets is the neatest time of the year IMO. Looking forward to it.

They got a gift with the Akron loss to Eastern. In three games this year they had a shot at the buzzer to win - and missed. Time for one of those to go in. Game three in Cleveland? Any game in Cleveland? Giggle.

They looked like a different team against Miami. That team needs to show up.

Giddy up!

Got to find a way to use Brbrc and Wight fouls in this run. Make their bugs earn it


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(03-07-2024 09:48 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Got to find a way to use Brbrc and Wight fouls in this run. Make their bugs earn it


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Wight played strong in his limited minutes against Miami's Big Mambo.

Brcic is injured as of the Miami game and didn't even make the trip to Buffalo.

Might be a good thing they blew out Miami and got some of the starters a rest.

I'd rather see Toledo win and Akron lose - giving us the outright MAC regular season championship. That would be #4 in a row. The record in the MAC over those 4 years would be 63-12 (.840). Then we'll worry about the tourney.

Edit: Cancel "worry about" and add a different word ..... Then we'll win the tourney

(03-08-2024 10:56 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I'd rather see Toledo win and Akron lose - giving us the outright MAC regular season championship. That would be #4 in a row. The record in the MAC over those 4 years would be 63-12 (.840). Then we'll worry about the tourney.

Edit: Cancel "worry about" and add a different word ..... Then we'll win the tourney

Even if tied Toledo wins the tiebreaker if OU finishes third, which is likely so Akron can win all the way to the final as far as I am concerned

(03-08-2024 11:34 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  

(03-08-2024 10:56 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I'd rather see Toledo win and Akron lose - giving us the outright MAC regular season championship. That would be #4 in a row. The record in the MAC over those 4 years would be 63-12 (.840). Then we'll worry about the tourney.

Edit: Cancel "worry about" and add a different word ..... Then we'll win the tourney

Even if tied Toledo wins the tiebreaker if OU finishes third, which is likely so Akron can win all the way to the final as far as I am concerned

There is no if involved. We are locked into the #3 seed regardless of what happens tonight in Oxford and Mount Pleasant.

The smallest part of me wants Kent, BG then Akron. You win those 3 the precedent is set for the future. The curse is broken and the team has faced the 3 biggest juggernauts who want your scalp on a platter. No way we don't "want it" vs. any of those teams. It would suck to lose in the quarters or to BG, but winning those....

Lorenston and Cochran have been playing excellent. Assuming they don't fall off a cliff we need Simmons to average 10 and 7, and Moss to show up for 15 a game to win the thing.

(03-08-2024 04:00 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  The smallest part of me wants Kent, BG then Akron. You win those 3 the precedent is set for the future. The curse is broken and the team has faced the 3 biggest juggernauts who want your scalp on a platter. No way we don't "want it" vs. any of those teams. It would suck to lose in the quarters or to BG, but winning those....

Lorenston and Cochran have been playing excellent. Assuming they don't fall off a cliff we need Simmons to average 10 and 7, and Moss to show up for 15 a game to win the thing.

you may get it.

UT will open with Kent in the quarters. We've handled em all year, need to do it again. They are down their best big and one of their regular guards.

BG-CMU in the 4/5 game with both teams playing pretty well.

Who knows what happens with the Akron-OU-Miami-WMU side of the bracket.

(03-08-2024 10:19 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-08-2024 04:00 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  The smallest part of me wants Kent, BG then Akron. You win those 3 the precedent is set for the future. The curse is broken and the team has faced the 3 biggest juggernauts who want your scalp on a platter. No way we don't "want it" vs. any of those teams. It would suck to lose in the quarters or to BG, but winning those....

Lorenston and Cochran have been playing excellent. Assuming they don't fall off a cliff we need Simmons to average 10 and 7, and Moss to show up for 15 a game to win the thing.

you may get it.

UT will open with Kent in the quarters. We've handled em all year, need to do it again. They are down their best big and one of their regular guards.

BG-CMU in the 4/5 game with both teams playing pretty well.

Who knows what happens with the Akron-OU-Miami-WMU side of the bracket.

Playing the same team twice in back-to-back games is never easy as what we had to do in Cleveland 3 threes ago when we barely survived beating Ball St in overtime in the Quarter Finals. You know Kent St is going to bring their A game on Thursday, and despite the key losses of Peyton and Bass, we will need to play an excellent game to move on! Then its on to the Semi Finals where I think we are going to get a rubber match game with BG who played us tough in both our win and loss this season. Survive that and then we get either most likely a hot Ohio U or wounded Akron team in the Finals which you know will be a pressure filled game based on the opponent and the added weight of missing the Big Dance for 40 plus years. Its all there for the taking. Play like they have for most of the MAC regular season, and they have an excellent chance of finally getting that "coveted invite" that everyone has been waiting to get for over 5 decades!