ACC
Locks: UNC, Duke
Should be in: Clemson (1 win to go), Virginia (2 wins to go)
Work left to do: Wake Forest, Pitt, Syracuse

Big 12
Locks: Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, BYU
Should be in: Texas Tech (1 win to go), TCU (1 win to go), Oklahoma (1 win to go)
Work left to do: Texas, Kansas State

Big East
Locks: UConn, Marquette, Creighton
Should be in: Providence (2 wins to go), Seton Hall (2 wins to go)
Work left to do: St. John's, Villanova, Butler

Big Ten
Locks: Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Should be in: Michigan State (2 wins to go)
Work left to do: Iowa, Ohio State

Mountain West
Locks: None
Should be in: Utah State (1 win to go), Nevada (1 win to go), SDSU (1 win to go)
Work left to do: New Mexico, Colorado State, Boise State

Pac-12
Locks: Arizona, Washington State
Should be in: Colorado (2 wins to go)
Work left to do: Oregon, Utah

SEC
Locks: Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina, Auburn, Kentucky, Florida
Should be in: None
Work left to do: Ole Miss, Mississippi State

Others
Locks: St. Mary's
Should be in: Dayton (1 win to go), FAU (2 wins to go), Gonzaga (2 wins to go)
Work left to do: Indiana State, Memphis, USF, Richmond, San Francisco, James Madison, Grand Canyon

USF being ranked would put them in, no?

(03-01-2024 01:49 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  USF being ranked would put them in, no?

85 NET, 1 Q1 win (@ 72 NET). No one’s ever gotten in with that combo.

They’re in the picture, but that combo making it would be unprecedented.

USF has a better chance of getting in the ACC than the Tournament as an at-large... okay, not really but someone had to say it.

Things can certainly change between now and Selection Sunday but as of the latest Bracket Matrix, the at large team that "made the field" that was chosen on the fewest # of brackets was Wake Forest and they were chosen by 89 of 104 brackets so right now the field looks about as cut and dry as it gets. Of course an upset here and a bid stealer there and everything changes. In the words of Stephen A. Smith, "the list is fluid".

All I can tell you is the ACC tourney is going to be an absolute meat grinder this season. There are about five or six teams that can win it. I think it will have a great effect on at-large bids.

After losing in Chicago last night, I think Dayton has some work to do. It's not like Loyola is the strongest team out there (though I know they're tough at home). But, Dayton at 5-5 as a road team is not impressive. 8-6 combined Q1/2 is also a smokescreen...the best wins for Dayton are still St. John's and Cincinnati, both of whom are fading further from the bubble picture. 0-2 against the A10 teams ahead of them, and presently 0-1 against the team behind them in VCU...no thanks.

In the other thread (stever's), I'm also not too confident in Colorado State. But, honestly, even though they also stink away from home (worse than Dayton), at home, they win the games. There's the Creighton win (which just ages like fine wine). And then beating Colorado (stronger bubble candidate than Cincy or the Johnnies). Toss in a very complex/troubled Gonzaga, frustrating FAU, and potentially fast-rising teams like Ohio State and UNLV...Dayton looks like the weakest link by a long country mile.

I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

Got it. James Madison a 1-seed. Heard it here first.

One metric tool is harmless if it’s part of toolkit of numerous measures. The problem with NET, as was RPI before it, is when a metric carries more weight or favor over others. Overall record gets countered by SOS, road/neutral gets countered by quality of the opponent. Checks and balances are the ideal. These “all-inclusive” measures, though…bleh.

NIT here we come!

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

No one would play anyone non conference. It would be like that other sport. I'd rather see the top schools playing top non conference competition and be rewarded for doing so.

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

thanks for the laugh. Of course SOS matters.

(03-02-2024 12:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

thanks for the laugh. Of course SOS matters.

You have to admit college sports would be wildly entertaining if DavidSt was running things.

(03-02-2024 11:18 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

Got it. James Madison a 1-seed. Heard it here first.

One metric tool is harmless if it’s part of toolkit of numerous measures. The problem with NET, as was RPI before it, is when a metric carries more weight or favor over others. Overall record gets countered by SOS, road/neutral gets countered by quality of the opponent. Checks and balances are the ideal. These “all-inclusive” measures, though…bleh.

LOL and don't forget about McNeese State.

(03-02-2024 02:31 PM)C2__ Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 11:18 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

Got it. James Madison a 1-seed. Heard it here first.

One metric tool is harmless if it’s part of toolkit of numerous measures. The problem with NET, as was RPI before it, is when a metric carries more weight or favor over others. Overall record gets countered by SOS, road/neutral gets countered by quality of the opponent. Checks and balances are the ideal. These “all-inclusive” measures, though…bleh.

LOL and don't forget about McNeese State.

Against UConn, Purdue, and Houston, sadly, they've dropped to the 2-line.

(03-02-2024 12:35 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 12:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

thanks for the laugh. Of course SOS matters.

You have to admit college sports would be wildly entertaining if DavidSt was running things.

He's already not-so-secretly running the B1G, it's only a matter of time before he controls everything.

(03-02-2024 12:35 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 12:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-02-2024 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I will do away computers, and look at records instead.

thanks for the laugh. Of course SOS matters.

You have to admit college sports would be wildly entertaining if DavidSt was running things.

Boise State Schedule:

Home: Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Tennessee, USC, Washington, Michigan,
Away: Michigan State, San Jose State, Upper Iowa, Hawai'i, North Dakota State