(02-29-2024 08:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 03:49 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  The existence of buyback as an option has already been publicly placed on the table by the conference. The ACC presumably does not intend to add to its litigious headaches by reneging.

Understood, but I still can't get my head around FSU's demand to buy back their rights at a significant discount. If I'm the ACC, I'd want full price, if not more given the damage of losing FSU.
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Would that be the full 2027 price for rights or the full 2036 price?

Big difference.

(02-29-2024 09:37 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 08:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 03:49 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  The existence of buyback as an option has already been publicly placed on the table by the conference. The ACC presumably does not intend to add to its litigious headaches by reneging.

Understood, but I still can't get my head around FSU's demand to buy back their rights at a significant discount. If I'm the ACC, I'd want full price, if not more given the damage of losing FSU.
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Would that be the full 2027 price for rights or the full 2036 price?

Big difference.

Well Since the GOR brought the ACC Network (T2) and they are going through 2036. I am sure that the lawyers (ACC & ESPN) can and will brief that the T1 rights will be renewed. The problem is when that happened there may be a bump-in value I have heard as much as 250M per year. So while the math is north of 700M, if this drags out, FSU might have to pay over 1B to get out. If they do not settler before the 2026 "Look-in"

Man the 572M seems like a good deal. I wonder if the ACC would let FSU out for that?

(02-29-2024 10:47 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 09:37 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 08:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 03:49 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  The existence of buyback as an option has already been publicly placed on the table by the conference. The ACC presumably does not intend to add to its litigious headaches by reneging.

Understood, but I still can't get my head around FSU's demand to buy back their rights at a significant discount. If I'm the ACC, I'd want full price, if not more given the damage of losing FSU.
....

Would that be the full 2027 price for rights or the full 2036 price?

Big difference.

Well Since the GOR brought the ACC Network (T2) and they are going through 2036. I am sure that the lawyers (ACC & ESPN) can and will brief that the T1 rights will be renewed. The problem is when that happened there may be a bump-in value I have heard as much as 250M per year. So while the math is north of 700M, if this drags out, FSU might have to pay over 1B to get out. If they do not settler before the 2026 "Look-in"

Man the 572M seems like a good deal. I wonder if the ACC would let FSU out for that?

We'll see how things go.

Until then: Sweet daydreams.

(02-27-2024 01:22 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 12:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 10:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 10:51 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  ...it's not a given that the ACC would agree to sell the rights back to FSU. The crux of FSU's demand is for the ACC to sell their rights back to them for less than they're actually worth. Why would the ACC do this?

Perhaps Florida State has hired Chad Swofford?

Interestingly the Raycom deal rolls off about the same time that ESPN has to make a decision on the extension.

It could be successfully argued that Raycom was a fail-safe back-stop should ESPN not renew. It would insure that the ACC games would be broadcast until another national media partner could be found, or simply have Raycom take over production of the ACCN.

I'm just guessing, but I would guess that argument would be met with a lot of eye rolls.

That does bring up another point...when does the Raycom deal sunset and how much of a bump do we get per school when it does?

Eye rolls or not, it's prudent to have an escape hatch.

It wasn't too many years ago when Raycom and ESPN were broadcasting the same games.
Raycom's ratings crushed those of ESPN. It forced ESPN to assign better announcers and better production to ACC broadcasts.
The network of stations that CD Chesley initially put together served the conference well for over a generation.

(03-01-2024 05:24 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 01:22 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 12:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 10:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 10:51 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  ...it's not a given that the ACC would agree to sell the rights back to FSU. The crux of FSU's demand is for the ACC to sell their rights back to them for less than they're actually worth. Why would the ACC do this?

Perhaps Florida State has hired Chad Swofford?

Interestingly the Raycom deal rolls off about the same time that ESPN has to make a decision on the extension.

It could be successfully argued that Raycom was a fail-safe back-stop should ESPN not renew. It would insure that the ACC games would be broadcast until another national media partner could be found, or simply have Raycom take over production of the ACCN.

I'm just guessing, but I would guess that argument would be met with a lot of eye rolls.

That does bring up another point...when does the Raycom deal sunset and how much of a bump do we get per school when it does?

Eye rolls or not, it's prudent to have an escape hatch.

It wasn't too many years ago when Raycom and ESPN were broadcasting the same games.
Raycom's ratings crushed those of ESPN. It forced ESPN to assign better announcers and better production to ACC broadcasts.
The network of stations that CD Chesley initially put together served the conference well for over a generation.

How has the CW been received in NC?

(03-01-2024 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-01-2024 05:24 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 01:22 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 12:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 10:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Perhaps Florida State has hired Chad Swofford?

Interestingly the Raycom deal rolls off about the same time that ESPN has to make a decision on the extension.

It could be successfully argued that Raycom was a fail-safe back-stop should ESPN not renew. It would insure that the ACC games would be broadcast until another national media partner could be found, or simply have Raycom take over production of the ACCN.

I'm just guessing, but I would guess that argument would be met with a lot of eye rolls.

That does bring up another point...when does the Raycom deal sunset and how much of a bump do we get per school when it does?

Eye rolls or not, it's prudent to have an escape hatch.

It wasn't too many years ago when Raycom and ESPN were broadcasting the same games.
Raycom's ratings crushed those of ESPN. It forced ESPN to assign better announcers and better production to ACC broadcasts.
The network of stations that CD Chesley initially put together served the conference well for over a generation.

How has the CW been received in NC?

Production is good and Werme and Giminski have a lot of ACC experience working together and are a lot better team than any announcing team that includes Cory Alexander (who is terrible).

(03-01-2024 12:24 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-01-2024 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-01-2024 05:24 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 01:22 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(02-27-2024 12:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  Interestingly the Raycom deal rolls off about the same time that ESPN has to make a decision on the extension.

It could be successfully argued that Raycom was a fail-safe back-stop should ESPN not renew. It would insure that the ACC games would be broadcast until another national media partner could be found, or simply have Raycom take over production of the ACCN.

I'm just guessing, but I would guess that argument would be met with a lot of eye rolls.

That does bring up another point...when does the Raycom deal sunset and how much of a bump do we get per school when it does?

Eye rolls or not, it's prudent to have an escape hatch.

It wasn't too many years ago when Raycom and ESPN were broadcasting the same games.
Raycom's ratings crushed those of ESPN. It forced ESPN to assign better announcers and better production to ACC broadcasts.
The network of stations that CD Chesley initially put together served the conference well for over a generation.

How has the CW been received in NC?

Production is good and Werme and Giminski have a lot of ACC experience working together and are a lot better team than any announcing team that includes Cory Alexander (who is terrible).

ACCN made a big mistake in not picking up G-man.

The ACC is fortunate that Giminski basically fell back into their lap with the CW. I like all of the CW commentators and play-by-play guys including Cory Alexander. I could not ask for it to be any better from the CW end.

(03-01-2024 02:37 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  The ACC is fortunate that Giminski basically fell back into their lap with the CW. I like all of the CW commentators and play-by-play guys including Cory Alexander. I could not ask for it to be any better from the CW end.

I agree, the CW team is great!