(02-15-2024 12:21 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  From ESPN:

"We've got some work to do to figure out what that [future model] is, because obviously, it has real impact on your regular season," Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti told ESPN. "You want to make sure that your teams have the ability to have a breakout season and qualify. And we also have to be realistic about what should get you access, in terms of number of wins. Look, we want meaningful games late in the season.

"We want fans to think that you know a game in the second week of November, even if you've already lost two or three games, still has a lot of value. That's the goal."

LINK: Tony Petitti: Big Ten wants more games with CFP implications

Translation: Perennial mid-tier (or lower) B1G programs may never go 12-0 or 11-1, but if they can get to the last third of the season with two or even three losses than they can still have hope of a CFB bid and all the benefits that come with such an opportunity.

As opposed to a spot in the Opt-Out Bowl before 20,000 on New Year's morning in Tampa.

As the B1G and SEC make their moves toward 20-24 schools, their commissioners will need ways to make their less prominent and/or resourced programs not feel as if they're permanently being relegated to a hopeless underclass.

How to do so:

1. Give 'em more media rights money (and opportunities to increase ticket sales and ancillary revenue)

2. Expand the P2 with schools that bring other things to the table besides recent success in football, e.g. new markets (UNC, NC State, UVA, VA Tech), elite academics (Stanford, Cal, Duke), valuable locations (Georgia Tech, Miami) or some combination of such

3. Increase the CFP fields and March Madness formats to allow more teams to participate, even some with an ~8-4 record or its rough equivalent in basketball

Division I-AA has settled in with a 24-team playoff for the past 11 seasons.

It could make a lot of sense for Sankey and Petitti to push for the same in the not too distant future

First time I've seen a P2 commish say anything around the playoff that actually makes sense. The goal is to have as many fans as possible engaged for as long as possible through the season. With the 4-team model we'd been using, you're down to only about 10 teams in the running as early as week 5.

(02-20-2024 08:06 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  First time I've seen a P2 commish say anything around the playoff that actually makes sense. The goal is to have as many fans as possible engaged for as long as possible through the season. With the 4-team model we'd been using, you're down to only about 10 teams in the running as early as week 5.

"But that's what makes College Football special"

(02-20-2024 08:06 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-15-2024 12:21 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  From ESPN:

"We've got some work to do to figure out what that [future model] is, because obviously, it has real impact on your regular season," Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti told ESPN. "You want to make sure that your teams have the ability to have a breakout season and qualify. And we also have to be realistic about what should get you access, in terms of number of wins. Look, we want meaningful games late in the season.

"We want fans to think that you know a game in the second week of November, even if you've already lost two or three games, still has a lot of value. That's the goal."

LINK: Tony Petitti: Big Ten wants more games with CFP implications

Translation: Perennial mid-tier (or lower) B1G programs may never go 12-0 or 11-1, but if they can get to the last third of the season with two or even three losses than they can still have hope of a CFB bid and all the benefits that come with such an opportunity.

As opposed to a spot in the Opt-Out Bowl before 20,000 on New Year's morning in Tampa.

As the B1G and SEC make their moves toward 20-24 schools, their commissioners will need ways to make their less prominent and/or resourced programs not feel as if they're permanently being relegated to a hopeless underclass.

How to do so:

1. Give 'em more media rights money (and opportunities to increase ticket sales and ancillary revenue)

2. Expand the P2 with schools that bring other things to the table besides recent success in football, e.g. new markets (UNC, NC State, UVA, VA Tech), elite academics (Stanford, Cal, Duke), valuable locations (Georgia Tech, Miami) or some combination of such

3. Increase the CFP fields and March Madness formats to allow more teams to participate, even some with an ~8-4 record or its rough equivalent in basketball

Division I-AA has settled in with a 24-team playoff for the past 11 seasons.

It could make a lot of sense for Sankey and Petitti to push for the same in the not too distant future

First time I've seen a P2 commish say anything around the playoff that actually makes sense. The goal is to have as many fans as possible engaged for as long as possible through the season. With the 4-team model we'd been using, you're down to only about 10 teams in the running as early as week 5.

Maybe they've been doing analysis of how a 5/7 looks or 5/11. I've started looking
at how it would look. From what I've seen so far, I can see how they would not be thrilled about a 5/7 with the top 4 champs getting seeds 1,2,3,4 when in some years you would only have 1 ACC or Big 12 team in the top 6 or 7. When you look at the 6/6 in the past, you see that very few of the current G5 schools would have gotten that 6th champ slot. It was often Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, Louisville, TCU or Utah who are now P4. So a 5/7 makes much more sense from that perspective.

(02-18-2024 12:46 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  For the CFP National Championship, just do top 12 as Sankey wants. Then have an additional 16-team playoff: ranked 13-25(13 teams) + top 3 conference champs not in CFP Top 25 and not in CFP National Championship.

Both playoffs would have tv contracts with the money being pooled into one pot. Just like ncaat for basketball, use the credit system for both playoffs. Have 12-team CFP credits weighted times 2.

You really NEED the conference championships to mean something. You should have the 5 champs instead of the hokie committee using a random eyeball test to pick teams. Now, maybe you don't seed the conference champs at the top 4 slots.

I've run through 1998-2005 with a 5/11 model. So far, only one 4 loss team would make the playoffs and the first team out has been a 3 loss or even a 2 loss team. That 4 loss team was 2003 Florida who handed #2 LSU their only loss and #12 Georgia their only loss other than LSU. Their 4 losses were to 3 top 10 teams-FSU, Miami and Tennessee and the #17 team Ole Miss.