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(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:24 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Y'all know you can start your own blog for free and can criticize the team all you want, right? No one should be surprised that it's not going to come from the University's PR department.

I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

Harry left the pilot in 2018, when hoops was still rolling and football was a year removed from a 10 win season. So, no, the VP was dropping their coverage well before **** hit the fan.

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

The coverage at this level is continuing to decline, its not bc the team wins or loses. The average joe isnt seeking out any G5 news.

(02-05-2024 04:58 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

Harry left the pilot in 2018, when hoops was still rolling and football was a year removed from a 10 win season. So, no, the VP was dropping their coverage well before **** hit the fan.

That’s also the year that the Pilot was sold and thus had layoffs.
Not the best year to judge imo
I imagine VCU gets great coverage in Richmond and JMU gets good coverage in northern VA.
Heck isn’t their beat writer the new Harry in a way?
Maybe when we get back to winning I’ll be proven wrong. But I have a hard time believing we wouldn’t see an uptick in coverage if we had a winning product.

(02-05-2024 04:59 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

The coverage at this level is continuing to decline, its not bc the team wins or loses. The average joe isnt seeking out any G5 news.

G5 coverage is dropping fast, but it is true that both JMU and VCU got a lot more organic coverage in real media recently. And in JMUs case it was that way when they sucked too. Id think if we were in the hunt for an at-large, or the women's team was ranked, football was in contention for a conference championship etc we would get a bit more local coverage. At least I would hope. JMU even got national coverage for their football team this season. It will never be like it was, but if you win, it will be a lot better. You're right in that our lack of coverage isn't just because our teams are lackluster, but I do think winning would improve things slightly.

(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:10 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 11:57 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 04:19 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 03:59 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  Harry has been awful since he has been at ODU. His coverage of ODU was much better at the VP. And IF ODU has abandoned the VP with their sports coverage, then the school is full fledged being cheap.

I feel Harry was more honest about ODU Sports when he was an outsider looking in. Now, all he does is feel good posts and pieces on buying season tickets, saying how our teams are going to have great years. I do not need any more blind optimism posts in my life.

My friend, you have it backward. VP abandoned ODU coverage because they got gutted and sold for parts by the hedge fund that bought them. ODU hiring Harry and having him doing pieces was their way of making sure ODU had at least *some* stories being posted about them.

Also yeah, of course Harry is less objective when writing stories about his bosses. If you want more hard-hitting journalism, find someone in local news that will do it or get on the beat yourself since you make it sound so easy. Lord knows you'd be able to fill word count in no time flat if your posts on this forum are any indication.

I would be that fox that would dig deeper into ODU's program and identify all of the problems and bring them to light to the general public. And guess what? I would not care about pushback or getting any negative feedback. I would not care if people came at me with pitchforks. I would not care to bump heads with those folks in ODU's leadership. I would bring great content that people would want to read, even if I am not liked by the reader.

You'd be fired within a month, and once word got out about your personality, you'd be selling pencils on the street corner . . And not the one in front of SB Ballard.

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Thats your opinion. I have a great open personality. I would certainly bring the perspective that people are looking for, and not the continual fluff pieces that people are sick and tired of reading over and over again.

Yes, and just like almost everything you spew here, it's your opinion. Did you figure that out all by yourself??

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:24 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Y'all know you can start your own blog for free and can criticize the team all you want, right? No one should be surprised that it's not going to come from the University's PR department.

I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

The same can be said of you and post on this board.

(02-05-2024 05:34 PM)benny_t Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:24 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Y'all know you can start your own blog for free and can criticize the team all you want, right? No one should be surprised that it's not going to come from the University's PR department.

I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

The same can be said of you and post on this board.

If it causes me pain, Im not going to log in.

(02-05-2024 05:40 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 05:34 PM)benny_t Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:24 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Y'all know you can start your own blog for free and can criticize the team all you want, right? No one should be surprised that it's not going to come from the University's PR department.

I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

The same can be said of you and post on this board.

If it causes me pain, Im not going to log in.

Don't recall anyone saying it caused pain to read, just that they were annoyed at the constant spin. The way you reply to some posters you definitely come off as annoyed.

(02-05-2024 05:45 PM)benny_t Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 05:40 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 05:34 PM)benny_t Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

The same can be said of you and post on this board.

If it causes me pain, Im not going to log in.

Don't recall anyone saying it caused pain to read, just that they were annoyed at the constant spin. The way you reply to some posters you definitely come off as annoyed.

(02-05-2024 05:20 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:10 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 11:57 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 04:19 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  My friend, you have it backward. VP abandoned ODU coverage because they got gutted and sold for parts by the hedge fund that bought them. ODU hiring Harry and having him doing pieces was their way of making sure ODU had at least *some* stories being posted about them.

Also yeah, of course Harry is less objective when writing stories about his bosses. If you want more hard-hitting journalism, find someone in local news that will do it or get on the beat yourself since you make it sound so easy. Lord knows you'd be able to fill word count in no time flat if your posts on this forum are any indication.

I would be that fox that would dig deeper into ODU's program and identify all of the problems and bring them to light to the general public. And guess what? I would not care about pushback or getting any negative feedback. I would not care if people came at me with pitchforks. I would not care to bump heads with those folks in ODU's leadership. I would bring great content that people would want to read, even if I am not liked by the reader.

You'd be fired within a month, and once word got out about your personality, you'd be selling pencils on the street corner . . And not the one in front of SB Ballard.

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Thats your opinion. I have a great open personality. I would certainly bring the perspective that people are looking for, and not the continual fluff pieces that people are sick and tired of reading over and over again.

Yes, and just like almost everything you spew here, it's your opinion. Did you figure that out all by yourself??

When I spew the facts about things like program wins and losses, and recruiting, those are not opinions. They are straight up facts. A google search will tell you the same things I tell you in 4/10ths of a second regarding these same line items.

(02-05-2024 05:18 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:58 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

Harry left the pilot in 2018, when hoops was still rolling and football was a year removed from a 10 win season. So, no, the VP was dropping their coverage well before **** hit the fan.

That’s also the year that the Pilot was sold and thus had layoffs.
Not the best year to judge imo
I imagine VCU gets great coverage in Richmond and JMU gets good coverage in northern VA.
Heck isn’t their beat writer the new Harry in a way?
Maybe when we get back to winning I’ll be proven wrong. But I have a hard time believing we wouldn’t see an uptick in coverage if we had a winning product.

JMU doesn't get all that great coverage in NOVA. JMU alumni might argue, but no one up here cares about them. I'd guess that they probably get better coverage in RVA (but so does VCU, UR, VT and UVA). ODU doesn't get coverage anywhere other than FB/Twitter.

(02-05-2024 05:19 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:59 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

The coverage at this level is continuing to decline, its not bc the team wins or loses. The average joe isnt seeking out any G5 news.

G5 coverage is dropping fast, but it is true that both JMU and VCU got a lot more organic coverage in real media recently. And in JMUs case it was that way when they sucked too. Id think if we were in the hunt for an at-large, or the women's team was ranked, football was in contention for a conference championship etc we would get a bit more local coverage. At least I would hope. JMU even got national coverage for their football team this season. It will never be like it was, but if you win, it will be a lot better. You're right in that our lack of coverage isn't just because our teams are lackluster, but I do think winning would improve things slightly.

I just posted a piece by John Fienstein from the Washington Post about a VCU player. They get great coverage.

(02-05-2024 05:18 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:58 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:54 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:50 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:48 PM)webster Wrote:  Due to our admin's lack of a winning mentality, it's unfortunately one of the only places to get ODU news.
Had we not become such a dumpster fire maybe other media outlets would care enough to cover ODU sports.
So, basically being the only outlet then I choose to suffer through it but I will keep calling out their lack of awareness. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion Giles

The VP lack of coverage is not bc the school doesn't have a winning mentality.

If we were successful and fielding winning teams in our major sports there would be much more media coverage for Old Dominion.
The average joe is not seeking out news on programs in the dumpster.

Harry left the pilot in 2018, when hoops was still rolling and football was a year removed from a 10 win season. So, no, the VP was dropping their coverage well before **** hit the fan.

That’s also the year that the Pilot was sold and thus had layoffs.
Not the best year to judge imo
I imagine VCU gets great coverage in Richmond and JMU gets good coverage in northern VA.
Heck isn’t their beat writer the new Harry in a way?
Maybe when we get back to winning I’ll be proven wrong. But I have a hard time believing we wouldn’t see an uptick in coverage if we had a winning product.

JMU gets good coverage in Harrisonburg, NOVA not so much. The Daily News-Record covers them like The Pilot covered ODU in the before times. It helps that the DNR is not owned by Tribune/Alden Capital.

1.7 million people, combined staff of VP and DP = 38. Entire newsroom. The copy desk is in Canada, don't know where the paper printed. Copy deadline: 6 pm. Nonetheless, for the ODU beat writer NOT to drive to H'burg to cover the game last week is criminal. And if we won more, especially MBB, there'd be more coverage. Football is OK, always could be better. . . For years people been saying Richmond becoming a suburb of DC. It's happened if you at stats. Surprised Feinstein hasn't written about jones, tho probably in respect for his situation. It also helps that VCU is pretty good and UR had been blazing hot and featured a story about a kid playing for his 4th different school.

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(02-05-2024 05:34 PM)benny_t Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:37 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:36 PM)webster Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:24 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Y'all know you can start your own blog for free and can criticize the team all you want, right? No one should be surprised that it's not going to come from the University's PR department.

I'm not shocked that a story on ODUsports.com is being positive and not critical.
Truly it's about being annoyed of the spin. Selig spins bad losses during interviews.
Harry is trying to spin poor results as something to be expected and that fans shouldn't be mad over.
It's just insulting to read sometimes. Kind of like when their social media posts the final score of another loss. As a rational person you can't get mad over that. But when it also includes something like "Monarchs came up short....reign on" it's tests my patience as a fan.

No one is forcing you to read. If it makes you upset, dont read.

The same can be said of you and post on this board.

I still get emails on monarch brew & the ODU news icon. I have not been a donator or season ticket for years. It is nice to read about all the sports positive views, but need would like input on how to improve. One of the reasons I look at Harry’s columns is it gives me the complete box score to study and attendance. 13 interviews are nice but again positive, only. Coaches should be more in dealing with negative input and what is needed to improve. Finally, each year I continue to get paid publications to join. I do like to read the magazine. Once, I called ODAF to get a ticket to the JMU football game (knowing my previous money given) and they said I had to be a season ticket holder. If that is the case, I shouldn’t receive the big package at the beginning of football or basketball.

The Tribune taking over the Pilot and Daily Press, then moving the printing to Richmond. That and letting go most of the staff, all but killed the local coverage.

(02-06-2024 08:29 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  1.7 million people, combined staff of VP and DP = 38. Entire newsroom. The copy desk is in Canada, don't know where the paper printed. Copy deadline: 6 pm. Nonetheless, for the ODU beat writer NOT to drive to H'burg to cover the game last week is criminal. And if we won more, especially MBB, there'd be more coverage. Football is OK, always could be better. . . For years people been saying Richmond becoming a suburb of DC. It's happened if you at stats. Surprised Feinstein hasn't written about jones, tho probably in respect for his situation. It also helps that VCU is pretty good and UR had been blazing hot and featured a story about a kid playing for his 4th different school.

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Richmond at the Times-Dispatch plant. Sadly the practice of local papers being printed out of market is becoming more and more common in the industry. I didn't realize the copy deadline had moved to 6:00 p.m. I thought it was 9:00 p.m. Either way, it is far too early for a daily paper.

(02-06-2024 10:46 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2024 08:29 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  1.7 million people, combined staff of VP and DP = 38. Entire newsroom. The copy desk is in Canada, don't know where the paper printed. Copy deadline: 6 pm. Nonetheless, for the ODU beat writer NOT to drive to H'burg to cover the game last week is criminal. And if we won more, especially MBB, there'd be more coverage. Football is OK, always could be better. . . For years people been saying Richmond becoming a suburb of DC. It's happened if you at stats. Surprised Feinstein hasn't written about jones, tho probably in respect for his situation. It also helps that VCU is pretty good and UR had been blazing hot and featured a story about a kid playing for his 4th different school.

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Richmond at the Times-Dispatch plant. Sadly the practice of local papers being printed out of market is becoming more and more common in the industry. I didn't realize the copy deadline had moved to 6:00 p.m. I thought it was 9:00 p.m. Either way, it is far too early for a daily paper.

Just learned about the 6 p.mn. deadline yesterday. I, too, thought it was 9.
Will they make an exception for the Super Bowl?

(02-06-2024 10:46 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2024 08:29 AM)bench jockey Wrote:  1.7 million people, combined staff of VP and DP = 38. Entire newsroom. The copy desk is in Canada, don't know where the paper printed. Copy deadline: 6 pm. Nonetheless, for the ODU beat writer NOT to drive to H'burg to cover the game last week is criminal. And if we won more, especially MBB, there'd be more coverage. Football is OK, always could be better. . . For years people been saying Richmond becoming a suburb of DC. It's happened if you at stats. Surprised Feinstein hasn't written about jones, tho probably in respect for his situation. It also helps that VCU is pretty good and UR had been blazing hot and featured a story about a kid playing for his 4th different school.

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Richmond at the Times-Dispatch plant. Sadly the practice of local papers being printed out of market is becoming more and more common in the industry. I didn't realize the copy deadline had moved to 6:00 p.m. I thought it was 9:00 p.m. Either way, it is far too early for a daily paper.

Just to remind people who did not know, Harry is a proud graduate of ODU. Perfect reason is hire him. Yes, the VP was losing sports writer and Harry took the ODU job, to add additional salary. He is a great writer but his biggest problem (no matter how bad) is he doesn’t mention the negative and things that need improving. Furthermore, Harry, Jim, Miller and other’s, had a good product to hit the front page of the then good VP.