Anyone have the ref lineup for the Wichita st game?

We have a WHOLE LOT more to worry about that the refs right now

Admittedly so. However I personally watch the effect of Zebras on any given game. It's just one more aspect of the game.

But yes, just a small aspect at this moment. But we have a history with a number of refs. Some help our odds of winning and in at least one case we are 1-7 when that ref is in the court.

So like every little thing, it's still a thing.

Thanks

Officials usually announced 2 to 3 hours before tio

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Ok. Thanks

Let’s get an early start on who we’re going to blame…

I blame ME! I don't tell loud enough from the cheap seats

(02-02-2024 07:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Let’s get an early start on who we’re going to blame…

The Hardaway boys, they seem to be the go-to for blame game at the moment. So we can start there.

As an example of why I find ref matchups interesting, here's the record of Memphis and Wichita St. when certain refs are on the floor.
Easily, I hope not to see Cassell, George, Heimerman, Kissinger, or Pollard.
And no, I don't blame refs. They all call games differently and its how the team adjusts to the how the ref calls a game. So they are just another "team" to prepare for.

Teams Memphis Wichita St.
Cassell, Lee 3-7 (0.300) 3-1 (0.750)
Daily, Don 18-7 (0.720) 21-2 (0.913)
Felder, Robert 2-3 (0.400) 7-2 (0.778)
Ferrie, Brad --- 6-1 (0.857)
George, Darron 0-4 (0.000) 6-4 (0.600)
Heimerman, R 7-4 (0.636) 12-1 (0.923)
Hess, Karl 2-6 (0.250) 4-0 (1.000)
Higgins, John 2-4 (0.333) 13-4 (0.765)
Kissinger, Kipp 0-4 (0.000) 8-1 (0.889)
Oglesby, Terry 9-8 (0.529) 11-5 (0.688)
Pollard, Gerry 6-4 (0.600) 11-1 (0.917)
Steed, Zelton 9-4 (0.692) 13-2 (0.867)
Williams, Gerald 3-2 (0.600) 11-0 (1.000)

(02-02-2024 10:04 PM)ChiefDave Wrote:  As an example of why I find ref matchups interesting, here's the record of Memphis and Wichita St. when certain refs are on the floor.
Easily, I hope not to see Cassell, George, Heimerman, Kissinger, or Pollard.
And no, I don't blame refs. They all call games differently and its how the team adjusts to the how the ref calls a game. So they are just another "team" to prepare for.

Teams Memphis Wichita St.
Cassell, Lee 3-7 (0.300) 3-1 (0.750)
Daily, Don 18-7 (0.720) 21-2 (0.913)
Felder, Robert 2-3 (0.400) 7-2 (0.778)
Ferrie, Brad --- 6-1 (0.857)
George, Darron 0-4 (0.000) 6-4 (0.600)
Heimerman, R 7-4 (0.636) 12-1 (0.923)
Hess, Karl 2-6 (0.250) 4-0 (1.000)
Higgins, John 2-4 (0.333) 13-4 (0.765)
Kissinger, Kipp 0-4 (0.000) 8-1 (0.889)
Oglesby, Terry 9-8 (0.529) 11-5 (0.688)
Pollard, Gerry 6-4 (0.600) 11-1 (0.917)
Steed, Zelton 9-4 (0.692) 13-2 (0.867)
Williams, Gerald 3-2 (0.600) 11-0 (1.000)

I wish I had this much extra time in my life. Kudos to you, sir, but like already said, whoever the refs are the least of our concerns right now..


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Old, retired, disabled, Navy Chief with coffee sludge and dust replacing blood flowing through his body = all the time in the world until God pulls the plug for the last time.

Also being an amateur stats man for fun is an odd mindset. But again, I am OLD!

So more crazy ref and foul trivia.

But the fascination with refs goes to homecourt advantage. Even Kenpom shows that the only true homecourt advantage is in the foul advantage. Thus the zebras make or break that advantage.

For Memphis the advantage is usually 4 to 5 fewer fouls than their opponents.

Home games

Memphis had only 1 fewer foul than Rice, so homecourt advantage nullified
Memphis had no foul advantage against South Florida so homecourt advantage nullified

Away games

Memphis had 6 more fouls than UAB or double UAB's normal advantage

Memphis had only 1 more foul than Tulane so around Tulane's normal advantage

At Wichita St, Memphis had 7 more fouls than Wichita St., however Memphis shared the ball (25 assists) and caused 18 TOs while committing only 10. So here, Memphis negated homecourt advantage by just playing superior team ball!!

Ok. With one ref
Felder
Memphis is 2-3
Wichita st is 7-2

(02-02-2024 05:03 PM)ChiefDave Wrote:  Admittedly so. However I personally watch the effect of Zebras on any given game. It's just one more aspect of the game.

But yes, just a small aspect at this moment. But we have a history with a number of refs. Some help our odds of winning and in at least one case we are 1-7 when that ref is in the court.

So like every little thing, it's still a thing.

Thanks

This is ridiculous. Absolutely small minded ridiculous thinking.
It's not a thing. You are incorrect. Don't be a girl

(02-02-2024 10:04 PM)ChiefDave Wrote:  As an example of why I find ref matchups interesting, here's the record of Memphis and Wichita St. when certain refs are on the floor.
Easily, I hope not to see Cassell, George, Heimerman, Kissinger, or Pollard.
And no, I don't blame refs. They all call games differently and its how the team adjusts to the how the ref calls a game. So they are just another "team" to prepare for.

Teams Memphis Wichita St.
Cassell, Lee 3-7 (0.300) 3-1 (0.750)
Daily, Don 18-7 (0.720) 21-2 (0.913)
Felder, Robert 2-3 (0.400) 7-2 (0.778)
Ferrie, Brad --- 6-1 (0.857)
George, Darron 0-4 (0.000) 6-4 (0.600)
Heimerman, R 7-4 (0.636) 12-1 (0.923)
Hess, Karl 2-6 (0.250) 4-0 (1.000)
Higgins, John 2-4 (0.333) 13-4 (0.765)
Kissinger, Kipp 0-4 (0.000) 8-1 (0.889)
Oglesby, Terry 9-8 (0.529) 11-5 (0.688)
Pollard, Gerry 6-4 (0.600) 11-1 (0.917)
Steed, Zelton 9-4 (0.692) 13-2 (0.867)
Williams, Gerald 3-2 (0.600) 11-0 (1.000)

Karl Hess sucks always has

Why is this a thread? I went to the game yesterday and I thought the officials did a fine job!

(02-03-2024 03:09 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 05:03 PM)ChiefDave Wrote:  Admittedly so. However I personally watch the effect of Zebras on any given game. It's just one more aspect of the game.

But yes, just a small aspect at this moment. But we have a history with a number of refs. Some help our odds of winning and in at least one case we are 1-7 when that ref is in the court.

So like every little thing, it's still a thing.

Thanks

This is ridiculous. Absolutely small minded ridiculous thinking.
It's not a thing. You are incorrect. Don't be a girl

You probably think the elections are fair

(02-03-2024 03:09 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 05:03 PM)ChiefDave Wrote:  Admittedly so. However I personally watch the effect of Zebras on any given game. It's just one more aspect of the game.

But yes, just a small aspect at this moment. But we have a history with a number of refs. Some help our odds of winning and in at least one case we are 1-7 when that ref is in the court.

So like every little thing, it's still a thing.

Thanks

This is ridiculous. Absolutely small minded ridiculous thinking.
It's not a thing. You are incorrect. Don't be a girl

Losers blame referees

(02-05-2024 08:24 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-03-2024 03:09 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(02-02-2024 05:03 PM)ChiefDave Wrote:  Admittedly so. However I personally watch the effect of Zebras on any given game. It's just one more aspect of the game.

But yes, just a small aspect at this moment. But we have a history with a number of refs. Some help our odds of winning and in at least one case we are 1-7 when that ref is in the court.

So like every little thing, it's still a thing.

Thanks

This is ridiculous. Absolutely small minded ridiculous thinking.
It's not a thing. You are incorrect. Don't be a girl

Losers blame referees

Well of course. No winning team is going to say the other team got robbed. But refs do matter, no?
And I've seen nothing in this thread that says Chief is blaming refs for our woes of late - in fact he says the opposite.
Just some interesting numbers. Ya'll don't have to complain about EVERY post, do you? Well, unless you truly are a Miserable.