(02-03-2024 11:15 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  NMSU edges out JSU before a reported crowd over 11,000.

67-65 Aggies.

You gotta give credit to college basketball fans in New Mexico, both New Mexico and NMSU have great support. So does UTEP

Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

(02-04-2024 04:24 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  

(02-03-2024 11:15 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  NMSU edges out JSU before a reported crowd over 11,000.

67-65 Aggies.

You gotta give credit to college basketball fans in New Mexico, both New Mexico and NMSU have great support. So does UTEP

The official attendance for last night's game was 11,278. I feel if NMSU and UTEP can get their respective programs rocking, the NMSU/UTEP road trip could be to most difficult in CUSA. Both schools are capable of drawing big crowds with the right motivation.

(02-04-2024 04:24 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  

(02-03-2024 11:15 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  NMSU edges out JSU before a reported crowd over 11,000.

67-65 Aggies.

You gotta give credit to college basketball fans in New Mexico, both New Mexico and NMSU have great support. So does UTEP

You are pure class.

(02-04-2024 05:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

I bet Hooten saw more fans at the game Saturday then he did in all is years combined at SHSU. After the game, he said he never thought he would coach a game where there were 11k home fans.

To be fair, there were 8-9k butts in the seat. But pretty good nonetheless.

Of course Hooten never expected to coach in front of 11,000 fans. He’s a loser coach so he certainly never expected to be at a legit basketball school. Glad he’s enjoying the support.

(02-05-2024 09:29 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 05:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

I bet Hooten saw more fans at the game Saturday then he did in all is years combined at SHSU. After the game, he said he never thought he would coach a game where there were 11k home fans.

To be fair, there were 8-9k butts in the seat. But pretty good nonetheless.

Sadly this is probably true. He had to endure the Southland and WAC years. The only games that would draw large crowds were the Piney Woods rivalry game with SFA or if we brought a Big 12 team to Huntsville. The stadium can hold 6,100 and we played a game against Texas Tech that drew 5,900 which is the largest we've ever had. We're starting to see a little bit of an uptick at least announced attendance was 2,546 against NMSU (I was at this game and talked to the AD and we both agreed it was more like 2,900-3,100 but he was saying for basketball our ticketing department will only count scanned tickets but the problem was that the student tickets would not scan that day, so they were not counted but were let in to the arena) and then the following game that week against UTEP saw 1,993 people. Thats a huge jump when you compare it to when the students were on break back on Jan 10 vs WKU we only drew 714.

Unfortunately, we will never be able to draw 2500+ consistently. Basketball just isn't a sport we consistently make NCAA tournament appearances so there is a lot of apathy surrounding the program. Baseball and Football are totally different stories. But baseball is really the only sport we can consistently reach a higher % of capacity. It's a nice facility compared to the basketball arena or football stadium. Football will have a better draw when the stadium is renovated and the fan experience improves. Hopefully some changes to the arena in basketball with some sustained winning would improve the basketball attendance.

(02-05-2024 09:47 AM)Bearkat21 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:29 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 05:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

I bet Hooten saw more fans at the game Saturday then he did in all is years combined at SHSU. After the game, he said he never thought he would coach a game where there were 11k home fans.

To be fair, there were 8-9k butts in the seat. But pretty good nonetheless.

Sadly this is probably true. He had to endure the Southland and WAC years. The only games that would draw large crowds were the Piney Woods rivalry game with SFA or if we brought a Big 12 team to Huntsville. The stadium can hold 6,100 and we played a game against Texas Tech that drew 5,900 which is the largest we've ever had. We're starting to see a little bit of an uptick at least announced attendance was 2,546 against NMSU (I was at this game and talked to the AD and we both agreed it was more like 2,900-3,100 but he was saying for basketball our ticketing department will only count scanned tickets but the problem was that the student tickets would not scan that day, so they were not counted but were let in to the arena) and then the following game that week against UTEP saw 1,993 people. Thats a huge jump when you compare it to when the students were on break back on Jan 10 vs WKU we only drew 714.

Unfortunately, we will never be able to draw 2500+ consistently. Basketball just isn't a sport we consistently make NCAA tournament appearances so there is a lot of apathy surrounding the program. Baseball and Football are totally different stories. But baseball is really the only sport we can consistently reach a higher % of capacity. It's a nice facility compared to the basketball arena or football stadium. Football will have a better draw when the stadium is renovated and the fan experience improves. Hopefully some changes to the arena in basketball with some sustained winning would improve the basketball attendance.

Level headed and honest response. I’m not sure why EatEmOut has to get so offended and bitter over everything. If an Ohio St fan said there was more fans at their game than NMSU draws all year I’d agree. And also put forth reasons for that as you did above. Some places are basketball schools. Some are football schools. Some are both and some are neither.

(02-05-2024 10:50 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:47 AM)Bearkat21 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:29 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 05:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

I bet Hooten saw more fans at the game Saturday then he did in all is years combined at SHSU. After the game, he said he never thought he would coach a game where there were 11k home fans.

To be fair, there were 8-9k butts in the seat. But pretty good nonetheless.

Sadly this is probably true. He had to endure the Southland and WAC years. The only games that would draw large crowds were the Piney Woods rivalry game with SFA or if we brought a Big 12 team to Huntsville. The stadium can hold 6,100 and we played a game against Texas Tech that drew 5,900 which is the largest we've ever had. We're starting to see a little bit of an uptick at least announced attendance was 2,546 against NMSU (I was at this game and talked to the AD and we both agreed it was more like 2,900-3,100 but he was saying for basketball our ticketing department will only count scanned tickets but the problem was that the student tickets would not scan that day, so they were not counted but were let in to the arena) and then the following game that week against UTEP saw 1,993 people. Thats a huge jump when you compare it to when the students were on break back on Jan 10 vs WKU we only drew 714.

Unfortunately, we will never be able to draw 2500+ consistently. Basketball just isn't a sport we consistently make NCAA tournament appearances so there is a lot of apathy surrounding the program. Baseball and Football are totally different stories. But baseball is really the only sport we can consistently reach a higher % of capacity. It's a nice facility compared to the basketball arena or football stadium. Football will have a better draw when the stadium is renovated and the fan experience improves. Hopefully some changes to the arena in basketball with some sustained winning would improve the basketball attendance.

Level headed and honest response. I’m not sure why EatEmOut has to get so offended and bitter over everything. If an Ohio St fan said there was more fans at their game than NMSU draws all year I’d agree. And also put forth reasons for that as you did above. Some places are basketball schools. Some are football schools. Some are both and some are neither.

Ironically enough you’re the offended one here.

Which part of my post came off as disagreeing with the OP?

I even noted that he’s now at a “legit basketball school”, which Sam is not.

If you preformed poorly in your career, would you expect an upgrade/promotion? Low-major level coaches don’t expect to coach in front of P5 level crowds. Don’t think this is breaking news.

(02-05-2024 11:39 AM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 10:50 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:47 AM)Bearkat21 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:29 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 05:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

I bet Hooten saw more fans at the game Saturday then he did in all is years combined at SHSU. After the game, he said he never thought he would coach a game where there were 11k home fans.

To be fair, there were 8-9k butts in the seat. But pretty good nonetheless.

Sadly this is probably true. He had to endure the Southland and WAC years. The only games that would draw large crowds were the Piney Woods rivalry game with SFA or if we brought a Big 12 team to Huntsville. The stadium can hold 6,100 and we played a game against Texas Tech that drew 5,900 which is the largest we've ever had. We're starting to see a little bit of an uptick at least announced attendance was 2,546 against NMSU (I was at this game and talked to the AD and we both agreed it was more like 2,900-3,100 but he was saying for basketball our ticketing department will only count scanned tickets but the problem was that the student tickets would not scan that day, so they were not counted but were let in to the arena) and then the following game that week against UTEP saw 1,993 people. Thats a huge jump when you compare it to when the students were on break back on Jan 10 vs WKU we only drew 714.

Unfortunately, we will never be able to draw 2500+ consistently. Basketball just isn't a sport we consistently make NCAA tournament appearances so there is a lot of apathy surrounding the program. Baseball and Football are totally different stories. But baseball is really the only sport we can consistently reach a higher % of capacity. It's a nice facility compared to the basketball arena or football stadium. Football will have a better draw when the stadium is renovated and the fan experience improves. Hopefully some changes to the arena in basketball with some sustained winning would improve the basketball attendance.

Level headed and honest response. I’m not sure why EatEmOut has to get so offended and bitter over everything. If an Ohio St fan said there was more fans at their game than NMSU draws all year I’d agree. And also put forth reasons for that as you did above. Some places are basketball schools. Some are football schools. Some are both and some are neither.

Ironically enough you’re the offended one here.

Which part of my post came off as disagreeing with the OP?

I even noted that he’s now at a “legit basketball school”, which Sam is not.

If you preformed poorly in your career, would you expect an upgrade/promotion? Low-major level coaches don’t expect to coach in front of P5 level crowds. Don’t think this is breaking news.

How has Hooten performed poorly by Sam Houston standards? Sam Houston has been to two D1 NCAA Basketball Tournaments ever. Jason Hooten is the winningest men's basketball coach in Sam Houston history with 261 wins over 13 years. That equates to just over 20 wins per season through his tenure there. Since Sam Houston has been in Division 1, Hooten posted the most wins in a single season twice with 26 wins (2023, 2015). And he had only one losing season while there.

Bearkat fans (and now Aggie fans) would have liked it if Hooten had guided a team to the NCAA Tournament, but he is no scrub. He is a very good X's & O's coach. We all realize Hooten will need to raise his game to meet NMSU's standards, but Aggie fans have seen their program go to NCAA Tournament 26 times, the most appearances by a non-P6 school.

(02-05-2024 11:39 AM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 10:50 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:47 AM)Bearkat21 Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 09:29 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(02-04-2024 05:25 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Those two have great support/attendance in ALL sports--especially when winning. Oft times--they pass schools like WKU and JSU in attendance by a "mile".

History, accomplishments, competitive; proud and glad to be in a league with these "Terrific Two".

I bet Hooten saw more fans at the game Saturday then he did in all is years combined at SHSU. After the game, he said he never thought he would coach a game where there were 11k home fans.

To be fair, there were 8-9k butts in the seat. But pretty good nonetheless.

Sadly this is probably true. He had to endure the Southland and WAC years. The only games that would draw large crowds were the Piney Woods rivalry game with SFA or if we brought a Big 12 team to Huntsville. The stadium can hold 6,100 and we played a game against Texas Tech that drew 5,900 which is the largest we've ever had. We're starting to see a little bit of an uptick at least announced attendance was 2,546 against NMSU (I was at this game and talked to the AD and we both agreed it was more like 2,900-3,100 but he was saying for basketball our ticketing department will only count scanned tickets but the problem was that the student tickets would not scan that day, so they were not counted but were let in to the arena) and then the following game that week against UTEP saw 1,993 people. Thats a huge jump when you compare it to when the students were on break back on Jan 10 vs WKU we only drew 714.

Unfortunately, we will never be able to draw 2500+ consistently. Basketball just isn't a sport we consistently make NCAA tournament appearances so there is a lot of apathy surrounding the program. Baseball and Football are totally different stories. But baseball is really the only sport we can consistently reach a higher % of capacity. It's a nice facility compared to the basketball arena or football stadium. Football will have a better draw when the stadium is renovated and the fan experience improves. Hopefully some changes to the arena in basketball with some sustained winning would improve the basketball attendance.

Level headed and honest response. I’m not sure why EatEmOut has to get so offended and bitter over everything. If an Ohio St fan said there was more fans at their game than NMSU draws all year I’d agree. And also put forth reasons for that as you did above. Some places are basketball schools. Some are football schools. Some are both and some are neither.

Ironically enough you’re the offended one here.

Which part of my post came off as disagreeing with the OP?

I even noted that he’s now at a “legit basketball school”, which Sam is not.

If you preformed poorly in your career, would you expect an upgrade/promotion? Low-major level coaches don’t expect to coach in front of P5 level crowds. Don’t think this is breaking news.

I’m offended? lol you’re the one clearly angry yet again. You must not be too happy about Sam’s basketball future if they hired the longtime assistant of a loser coach. You need to calm down bro. It’s gonna be ok.

Kats ran out of gas up 11 in second half hit a wall
I saw somewhere that teams in Conf USA on Thurs-Sat back to back road trip or 0-7 on that second game

(02-05-2024 03:19 PM)Kat1990 Wrote:  Kats ran out of gas up 11 in second half hit a wall
I saw somewhere that teams in Conf USA on Thurs-Sat back to back road trip or 0-7 on that second game

Liberty lost to NMSU in OT on Thursday but still managed to beat UTEP Saturday.

(02-05-2024 04:34 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 03:19 PM)Kat1990 Wrote:  Kats ran out of gas up 11 in second half hit a wall
I saw somewhere that teams in Conf USA on Thurs-Sat back to back road trip or 0-7 on that second game

Liberty lost to NMSU in OT on Thursday but still managed to beat UTEP Saturday.

Yeah, but it’s not all that hard to beat UTEP.

(02-05-2024 06:19 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:34 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 03:19 PM)Kat1990 Wrote:  Kats ran out of gas up 11 in second half hit a wall
I saw somewhere that teams in Conf USA on Thurs-Sat back to back road trip or 0-7 on that second game

Liberty lost to NMSU in OT on Thursday but still managed to beat UTEP Saturday.

Yeah, but it’s not all that hard to beat UTEP.

We haven’t won a road game yet but I think our best chance comes this weekend in El Paso. It’s a rivalry game and it’s like 45 min away. About as close to home as you can get for a road game. If NMSU wins Saturday miner fans are going to go ballistic on Golding. Understandably so. I actually think this puts the pressure on Golding more than anything. People know we’re rebuilding, Golding should be beating us at this point. We shall see.

(02-05-2024 06:34 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 06:19 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:34 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 03:19 PM)Kat1990 Wrote:  Kats ran out of gas up 11 in second half hit a wall
I saw somewhere that teams in Conf USA on Thurs-Sat back to back road trip or 0-7 on that second game

Liberty lost to NMSU in OT on Thursday but still managed to beat UTEP Saturday.

Yeah, but it’s not all that hard to beat UTEP.

We haven’t won a road game yet but I think our best chance comes this weekend in El Paso. It’s a rivalry game and it’s like 45 min away. About as close to home as you can get for a road game. If NMSU wins Saturday miner fans are going to go ballistic on Golding. Understandably so. I actually think this puts the pressure on Golding more than anything. People know we’re rebuilding, Golding should be beating us at this point. We shall see.

Very true but I believe we are stuck for at least one more year. We just paid to get rid of Dimel so I doubt donors want to contribute right now to correct another mistake by the AD.

(02-05-2024 06:34 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 06:19 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 04:34 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(02-05-2024 03:19 PM)Kat1990 Wrote:  Kats ran out of gas up 11 in second half hit a wall
I saw somewhere that teams in Conf USA on Thurs-Sat back to back road trip or 0-7 on that second game

Liberty lost to NMSU in OT on Thursday but still managed to beat UTEP Saturday.

Yeah, but it’s not all that hard to beat UTEP.

We haven’t won a road game yet but I think our best chance comes this weekend in El Paso. It’s a rivalry game and it’s like 45 min away. About as close to home as you can get for a road game. If NMSU wins Saturday miner fans are going to go ballistic on Golding. Understandably so. I actually think this puts the pressure on Golding more than anything. People know we’re rebuilding, Golding should be beating us at this point. We shall see.

It took Golding a number of years to build up Abilene Christian, maybe more years than Miners fans would accept. I'm not quite sure why Golding is struggling to get his roster just right. This season, he seems to have everything but a perimeter game. With the wins over UC Santa Barbara and California in November, I really thought UTEP had finally turned the corner. Golding appears to have three pretty good freshmen (David Terrell Jr., Trey Horton III, and Elijah Jones). Maybe that will be the class that propels Golding's program forward.

Although the NMSU crowd and game were really nice to see, I have always been interested in another two numbers that are much harder to figure out.

What percentage of the metro area population came to the game.
What percentage of the total arena capacity was met.

So in a area like NYU, when St. John's draws 15k, that would be a very small number due to the size of the metro area. This could be a strong indicator of how relevant the program is in its home area.
The second one often relates to game-day experience. 5k in a 6k building us much better than 6k in a 12k building.