https://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc-footba.../21239557/

Interesting read.

Mack has a problem.

Mack has recruited at a high level since he returned to Chapel Hill. He has had probably the two best quarterbacks in Carolina's modern era (Howell & Maye). BUT his teams has collapsed at the end of the last two seasons and his overall record since he returned is no better than Larry Fedora's for the same time period.

YET, he stands up and encourages sending money so that he can buy better players? While 4* and 5* players that were recruited go underdeveloped and not able to push the Heels to the "next level".

Mack is a little "long in the tooth", and is still selling the same kisses and promises, but with unsure results.

This Tar Heel is going to keep his hard earned money in his pocket, at least until the coach can prove that he can win by superior coaching and planning skills as opposed to overwhelming our opponents with superior talent (a method which hasn't worked over the last 5 years).


Mack has a problem.

(01-17-2024 05:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Mack has a problem.

Mack has recruited at a high level since he returned to Chapel Hill. He has had probably the two best quarterbacks in Carolina's modern era (Howell & Maye). BUT his teams has collapsed at the end of the last two seasons and his overall record since he returned is no better than Larry Fedora's for the same time period.

YET, he stands up and encourages sending money so that he can buy better players? While 4* and 5* players that were recruited go underdeveloped and not able to push the Heels to the "next level".

Mack is a little "long in the tooth", and is still selling the same kisses and promises, but with unsure results.

This Tar Heel is going to keep his hard earned money in his pocket, at least until the coach can prove that he can win by superior coaching and planning skills as opposed to overwhelming our opponents with superior talent (a method which hasn't worked over the last 5 years).


Mack has a problem.

FUN-da-MENTALS!

Two conditions manifest themselves at UNC nearly every year. The team isn't strong in the fourth quarter and they are not strong late in the season. They can't finish the way great teams do. That is more a question of depth than it is of talent and player development.

It isn't the 4* and 5* star players that Mack recruits that are the problem. It's that their backups are 3* kids and over the course of a game and a season they are wearing out and getting injured against their opponents' 4* kids. Carolina isn't alone in this. It's what makes the difference between Top Ten teams and everybody else so great year after year.

Until Carolina and its fans make the commitment to being like Clemson and FSU in football, it will always be so, no matter who is coaching them.

(01-17-2024 07:46 AM)ken d Wrote:  Two conditions manifest themselves at UNC nearly every year. The team isn't strong in the fourth quarter and they are not strong late in the season. They can't finish the way great teams do. That is more a question of depth than it is of talent and player development.

It isn't the 4* and 5* star players that Mack recruits that are the problem. It's that their backups are 3* kids and over the course of a game and a season they are wearing out and getting injured against their opponents' 4* kids. Carolina isn't alone in this. It's what makes the difference between Top Ten teams and everybody else so great year after year.

Until Carolina and its fans make the commitment to being like Clemson and FSU in football, it will always be so, no matter who is coaching them.

That reasoning may have worked 5 years ago when Mack arrived. But after years of excuses it's starting to fall on deaf ears.
Mack has surrounded himself over the years with friends and yes men and has been slow to rid himself of assistants that aren't doing a good job.
Jay Bateman left because Mack wouldn't let him fire bad assistants and hire competent replacements. So Mack brought in his buddy Chizik and saddled him with the same assistants with the same result as Bateman. Now we're dealing with the third DC in 6 years. Our linebacker coach is lazy. He can develop 1 good player, but can't produce any depth (and he's a Fedora hold over).
Things will not change until Mack is replaced. Then Tar Heel football may be worthy of investment dollars, not before.

Alternatively: UNC football has hit a wall without a good DC

(01-17-2024 07:46 AM)ken d Wrote:  Two conditions manifest themselves at UNC nearly every year. The team isn't strong in the fourth quarter and they are not strong late in the season. They can't finish the way great teams do. That is more a question of depth than it is of talent and player development.

It isn't the 4* and 5* star players that Mack recruits that are the problem. It's that their backups are 3* kids and over the course of a game and a season they are wearing out and getting injured against their opponents' 4* kids. Carolina isn't alone in this. It's what makes the difference between Top Ten teams and everybody else so great year after year.

Until Carolina and its fans make the commitment to being like Clemson and FSU in football, it will always be so, no matter who is coaching them.

If you coach a team with great starters but inferior depth, what do you do? You slow down the pace of the game as much as possible. Use the full play clock. Use 3 plays to make a first down. On defense, you contain rather than attack. Everything should be designed to reduce the total number of plays per game. Does UNC do that? Not really: against WVU the Heels averaged one snap every 28 seconds out of a possible 40.

Not being in the Coastal division is Mack's biggest problem.

UNC has the same problem UK does. Basketball is king and NIL money is going to be funneled to that sport first, and it will forever be that way. Mark Stoops cries all the time about not having enough NIL money, yet UK can pay basketball players over 2 million dollars to forego turning pro (Oscar Tshiebwe). Louisville, on the other hand, is doing the opposite. It is cashing in on NIL for football and neglecting its bread and butter sport. The NIL era is very frustrating. I'm glad players are now getting a piece of the pie for their image and likeness, but it's ruining collegiate athletics making athletes mere mercenaries for hire.

Carolina has become a "girls" school. There are quite a number of key majors they don't have because they are over at NC State. It helps skew the student population female and it's about 64-37 female. Its about 50/50 at NC State. I maintain that supporting major college football is exceedingly difficult at a "girls" school because young and middle age women are not college sports boosters the way their male counterparts are and it helps develop an "anti-male" atmosphere on campus among current students.

The feminization of UNC is a problem.
The loss of Charlotte to the Carolina Panthers is a problem.
The curriculum limitations are a problem.
The limitations of parking around Kenan is a problem.
The fact that Mack can recruit but has never been a great in game coach is a problem.
The fact that depth will always be a problem as long as NC State, VT, TN, GA, and Clemson exist inside the same State media markets is a problem.

Extra money does not solve these problems.

Carolina has not had a great game coach since Bill Dooley was run off for wanting to be the AD.

And tying into what others have observed, Mack sells "flash" and the fans expect "flash" but flash really only entertains, so often it does not win.

(01-17-2024 04:42 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  Carolina has become a "girls" school. There are quite a number of key majors they don't have because they are over at NC State. It helps skew the student population female and it's about 64-37 female. Its about 50/50 at NC State. I maintain that supporting major college football is exceedingly difficult at a "girls" school because young and middle age women are not college sports boosters the way their male counterparts are and it helps develop an "anti-male" atmosphere on campus among current students.

The feminization of UNC is a problem.
The loss of Charlotte to the Carolina Panthers is a problem.
The curriculum limitations are a problem.
The limitations of parking around Kenan is a problem.
The fact that Mack can recruit but has never been a great in game coach is a problem.
The fact that depth will always be a problem as long as NC State, VT, TN, GA, and Clemson exist inside the same State media markets is a problem.

Extra money does not solve these problems.

Carolina has not had a great game coach since Bill Dooley was run off for wanting to be the AD.

And tying into what others have observed, Mack sells "flash" and the fans expect "flash" but flash really only entertains, so often it does not win.

When I was at Carolina the ratio went from 8-1 (men over women) to about 7-1. It's been going downhill ever since.

Carolina needs another Bill Dooley. Dick Crum was as good or better game coach, and did well as long as he was coaching Dooley's left over players.

(01-17-2024 05:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Mack has a problem.

Mack has recruited at a high level since he returned to Chapel Hill. He has had probably the two best quarterbacks in Carolina's modern era (Howell & Maye). BUT his teams has collapsed at the end of the last two seasons and his overall record since he returned is no better than Larry Fedora's for the same time period.

YET, he stands up and encourages sending money so that he can buy better players? While 4* and 5* players that were recruited go underdeveloped and not able to push the Heels to the "next level".

Mack is a little "long in the tooth", and is still selling the same kisses and promises, but with unsure results.

This Tar Heel is going to keep his hard earned money in his pocket, at least until the coach can prove that he can win by superior coaching and planning skills as opposed to overwhelming our opponents with superior talent (a method which hasn't worked over the last 5 years).


Mack has a problem.

You expect better results ignoring Mack Brown's pretty valid point? This is when those SEC and B1G TV dollars matter ... when everybody is breaking out their VISA to buy a transfer QB for $1,500,000 or a DE for $1,000,000 or even just a good WR for $600,000. In case you didn't notice, and it seems you didn't, Dino Babers got straight up raided with a chest full of a cash every offseason for the last 4. Wow that's a nice player you spent 3 years developing into a starter there. It would be a shame if they went somewhere else for a payday ....

The reaction to this shouldn't be to fire Mack Brown ... it should be to light a fire under Congress. College sports are so irredeemably f*cked up right now only Congress can fix them.

(01-17-2024 09:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  Alternatively: UNC football has hit a wall without a good DC

Just you wait until the Clown Show gets rolling in full.

(01-18-2024 10:36 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 09:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  Alternatively: UNC football has hit a wall without a good DC

Just you wait until the Clown Show gets rolling in full.

He just needs to coach the defense and get a Bojangles turnover chain.

(01-18-2024 04:12 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(01-18-2024 10:36 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 09:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  Alternatively: UNC football has hit a wall without a good DC

Just you wait until the Clown Show gets rolling in full.

He just needs to coach the defense and get a Bojangles turnover chain.

Maybe give a $10 Bojangles gift card card for each turnover?
Is that allowed?

(01-18-2024 06:10 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-18-2024 04:12 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(01-18-2024 10:36 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 09:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  Alternatively: UNC football has hit a wall without a good DC

Just you wait until the Clown Show gets rolling in full.

He just needs to coach the defense and get a Bojangles turnover chain.

Maybe give a $10 Bojangles gift card card for each turnover?
Is that allowed?

Un-permissible benefit. Now you can give him a box of Chicken and that's ok.

(01-18-2024 10:58 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(01-18-2024 06:10 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-18-2024 04:12 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(01-18-2024 10:36 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 09:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  Alternatively: UNC football has hit a wall without a good DC

Just you wait until the Clown Show gets rolling in full.

He just needs to coach the defense and get a Bojangles turnover chain.

Maybe give a $10 Bojangles gift card card for each turnover?
Is that allowed?

Un-permissible benefit. Now you can give him a box of Chicken and that's ok.

Yep. That's what I figured. NCAA logic.

(01-18-2024 10:35 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-17-2024 05:43 AM)XLance Wrote:  Mack has a problem.

Mack has recruited at a high level since he returned to Chapel Hill. He has had probably the two best quarterbacks in Carolina's modern era (Howell & Maye). BUT his teams has collapsed at the end of the last two seasons and his overall record since he returned is no better than Larry Fedora's for the same time period.

YET, he stands up and encourages sending money so that he can buy better players? While 4* and 5* players that were recruited go underdeveloped and not able to push the Heels to the "next level".

Mack is a little "long in the tooth", and is still selling the same kisses and promises, but with unsure results.

This Tar Heel is going to keep his hard earned money in his pocket, at least until the coach can prove that he can win by superior coaching and planning skills as opposed to overwhelming our opponents with superior talent (a method which hasn't worked over the last 5 years).


Mack has a problem.

You expect better results ignoring Mack Brown's pretty valid point? This is when those SEC and B1G TV dollars matter ... when everybody is breaking out their VISA to buy a transfer QB for $1,500,000 or a DE for $1,000,000 or even just a good WR for $600,000. In case you didn't notice, and it seems you didn't, Dino Babers got straight up raided with a chest full of a cash every offseason for the last 4. Wow that's a nice player you spent 3 years developing into a starter there. It would be a shame if they went somewhere else for a payday ....

The reaction to this shouldn't be to fire Mack Brown ... it should be to light a fire under Congress. College sports are so irredeemably f*cked up right now only Congress can fix them.

But there are some things about this that Congress won't want to touch with a 10 foot pole. I'm not holding my breath for them to act.