(01-03-2024 12:21 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 09:04 PM)MUther Wrote:  If one were to include bowls, going from the east coast to Hawaii and upsetting an MWC team would seem to give CCU a little more clout.

A MWC team on a 6 game hot streak and computer decision away from playing in the MWC Championship. They played just about all the regular starters and we had a good bit of depth not play. To Beck's credit, that was honestly a pretty darn good win against a SJSU team that was cooking and playing their best ball.

Um, that's what I said? You should get more credit for pulling that win off.

(01-06-2024 04:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 12:21 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 09:04 PM)MUther Wrote:  If one were to include bowls, going from the east coast to Hawaii and upsetting an MWC team would seem to give CCU a little more clout.

A MWC team on a 6 game hot streak and computer decision away from playing in the MWC Championship. They played just about all the regular starters and we had a good bit of depth not play. To Beck's credit, that was honestly a pretty darn good win against a SJSU team that was cooking and playing their best ball.

Um, that's what I said? You should get more credit for pulling that win off.

I only expounded on what you said. Not denouncing in any way.

(01-06-2024 05:28 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 04:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 12:21 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 09:04 PM)MUther Wrote:  If one were to include bowls, going from the east coast to Hawaii and upsetting an MWC team would seem to give CCU a little more clout.

A MWC team on a 6 game hot streak and computer decision away from playing in the MWC Championship. They played just about all the regular starters and we had a good bit of depth not play. To Beck's credit, that was honestly a pretty darn good win against a SJSU team that was cooking and playing their best ball.

Um, that's what I said? You should get more credit for pulling that win off.

I only expounded on what you said. Not denouncing in any way.

Gotcha. I think it was our best bowl win other than maybe App beating MAC champ, but the weather made that weird and unbearable.

My Final 2023 Power Ratings

1. Troy
2. App State
3. JMU

4. South Alabama
5. Coastal
6. Texas State
7. Georgia State
8. Arkansas State
9. Old Dominion
10. Louisiana
11. Marshall
12. Georgia Southern

13. Southern Miss
14. ULM

My Way Too Early 2024 Pre-Season Power Ratings

1. App State
2. James Madison
3. Troy
T4. Coastal Carolina
T4. South Alabama
T4. Marshall
T7. Arkansas State
T7. Texas State
T7. Louisiana
10. Southern Miss
T11. Georgia State
T11. Georgia Southern
13. Old Dominion
14. Louisiana Monroe

(01-06-2024 06:54 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  My Final 2023 Power Ratings

1. Troy
2. App State
3. JMU

4. South Alabama
5. Coastal
6. Texas State
7. Georgia State
8. Arkansas State
9. Old Dominion
10. Louisiana
11. Marshall
12. Georgia Southern

13. Southern Miss
14. ULM

TXST and CCU both had better records than USA & TXST beat USA.

You really hate on TXST, don't you?

(01-06-2024 07:09 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 06:54 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  My Final 2023 Power Ratings

1. Troy
2. App State
3. JMU

4. South Alabama
5. Coastal
6. Texas State
7. Georgia State
8. Arkansas State
9. Old Dominion
10. Louisiana
11. Marshall
12. Georgia Southern

13. Southern Miss
14. ULM

TXST and CCU both had better records than USA & TXST beat USA.

You really hate on TXST, don't you?

It's just my opinion. I hate no one in the Sun Belt. These things are mostly paper rock scissors, and I'm not expert. Nor do I claim to be.

I thought all three teams you mentioned finished strong, but I felt USA's bowl performance earned them a few spots.

OP had USA at #4 and I was tempted to put them at #3. They’re the one team that seems to be build to compete for 8+ win seasons for the foreseeable future. Just lots of big bodies and a core group of HS recruits that can compete with anybody.

Now that the football season is officially over, I've updated the numbers following postseason and this is how my computer saw the season:

Sun Belt:
1. Troy
2. James Madison
3. App State
4. South Alabama
5. Coastal Carolina
6. Texas State
7. Georgia State
8. Louisiana
9. Marshall
10. Old Dominion
11. Georgia Southern
12. Arkansas State
13. Southern Miss
14. ULM

Troy and JMU were neck and neck, literally #19 and #20 in the cumulative ratings. After seeing these results, I think I want to develop a "recency" metric and use it in the rankings next year. Georgia Southern's rating needs to be punished a bit for losing 5 straight. Arkansas State got edged out in the ratings by GS, but I feel at the end of the season the Red Wolves were a better team. In fact, if the refs hadn't called offsides on the onsides kick and somehow ASU beats NIU, then the Red Wolves would have finished #9, behind Louisiana but ahead of Marshall, Old Dominion, and Georgia Southern. As it stands only 8 spots separate Marshall, Old Dominion, Georgia Southern, and Arkansas State in the cumulative ratings.

Final conference ratings:
1. SEC
2. Pac-12
3. Big 12
4. Big Ten
5. ACC
6. Sun Belt
7. Mountain West
8. FBS Independents
9. AAC
10. CUSA
11. MAC

Top 12 G5 (minus SMU):
1. Troy
2. James Madison
3. Liberty
4. Toledo
5. Tulane
6. Memphis
7. Air Force
8. Miami OH
9. App State
10. Ohio
11. Jacksonville State
12. Boise State

Here is how my program saw the top 15 teams. My program was never super high on Washington, but I'm still surprised to see them at #13.

Top 15:
1. Michigan
2. Georgia
3. Oregon
4. Texas
5. Alabama
6. Penn State
7. Ohio State
8. Missouri
9. Notre Dame
10. Ole Miss
11. Florida State
12. Oklahoma
13. Washington
14. Kansas State
15. LSU

Man, just realized the final Coaches' Poll didn't have a single G5 in the Top 25, and the AP just had Liberty at 25. I hope that's not a sign of things to come.

There wasn't any G5 that deserved to be ranked this year.

(01-10-2024 09:13 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  There wasn't any G5 that deserved to be ranked this year.

Yep, probably true.

EDIT: I still hope it's not a sign of things to come.

(01-06-2024 05:33 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 05:28 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 04:44 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-03-2024 12:21 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 09:04 PM)MUther Wrote:  If one were to include bowls, going from the east coast to Hawaii and upsetting an MWC team would seem to give CCU a little more clout.

A MWC team on a 6 game hot streak and computer decision away from playing in the MWC Championship. They played just about all the regular starters and we had a good bit of depth not play. To Beck's credit, that was honestly a pretty darn good win against a SJSU team that was cooking and playing their best ball.

Um, that's what I said? You should get more credit for pulling that win off.

I only expounded on what you said. Not denouncing in any way.

Gotcha. I think it was our best bowl win other than maybe App beating MAC champ, but the weather made that weird and unbearable.

Miami Oh was also playing a QB with no meaningful experience in the worst conditions. All we had to do was not screw up as much as them.