Bowl Games should offer their own NIL deals for player to show up.

Imagine if the top 5 players from each team got a % of ticket sales.

These players would promote the game on their social media platforms.

This would reduce some of the high profile Opt Outs in bowl games.

(12-20-2023 12:54 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Bowl Games should offer their own NIL deals for player to show up.

Imagine if the top 5 players from each team got a % of ticket sales.

These players would promote the game on their social media platforms.

This would reduce some of the high profile Opt Outs in bowl games.

It's probably against NCAA rules. Once the rules are changed, it is likely NIL will include bonuses for playing in OTA games and TV ratings.

They don’t make enough money to stop people from opting out for the nfl.

They already get a gift package.

(12-20-2023 03:40 PM)Claw Wrote:  They already get a gift package.

If you have any pro aspirations, even as an undrafted free agent, it will probably take a lot more than a $400 Best Buy gift card and a big jar of mayonnaise to play in the Duke's Mayo Bowl.

(12-20-2023 03:51 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(12-20-2023 03:40 PM)Claw Wrote:  They already get a gift package.

If you have any pro aspirations, even as an undrafted free agent, it will probably take a lot more than a $400 Best Buy gift card and a big jar of mayonnaise to play in the Duke's Mayo Bowl.

But they are young men in their early twenties ... a four figure check for being on the sideline at the game and a bonus on top for appearing for a certain number of minutes is going to swing some players on the margin between "saving themselves for the NFL" and "playing one last game with their brothers".

In reality, if this is how it's going - the bowl game concept needs to be dropped -

or... change xfer portal rules so that you can't commit until Jan 1 so there is no incentive to hold out of bowl games.

Bowl games are exhibition games. They are now a preview of a team’s returning players. If anything, they should help the idiotic preseason polls

(12-21-2023 10:36 AM)jgkojak Wrote:  In reality, if this is how it's going - the bowl game concept needs to be dropped -

or... change xfer portal rules so that you can't commit until Jan 1 so there is no incentive to hold out of bowl games.

Transfer portal should align with the academic calendar amiright

(12-21-2023 10:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  Bowl games are exhibition games. They are now a preview of a team’s returning players. If anything, they should help the idiotic preseason polls

If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

(12-21-2023 10:55 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  Bowl games are exhibition games. They are now a preview of a team’s returning players. If anything, they should help the idiotic preseason polls

If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:55 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  Bowl games are exhibition games. They are now a preview of a team’s returning players. If anything, they should help the idiotic preseason polls

If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

(12-21-2023 11:19 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:55 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  Bowl games are exhibition games. They are now a preview of a team’s returning players. If anything, they should help the idiotic preseason polls

If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. You play to win, you play to showcase your abilities. It could also spark boosters to keep that player there.

*Trust me. The Heels are decimated every Bowl Season and I've had to adjust my line of thinking. I have a meaningful game to watch this year vs a family member's alma mater (WVU grad). No Drake Maye and co.

(12-21-2023 11:20 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:19 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:55 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  Bowl games are exhibition games. They are now a preview of a team’s returning players. If anything, they should help the idiotic preseason polls

If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. You play to win, you play to showcase your abilities. It could also spark boosters to keep that player there.

*Trust me. The Heels are decimated every Bowl Season and I've had to adjust my line of thinking. I have a meaningful game to watch this year vs a family member's alma mater (WVU grad). No Drake Maye and co.

If you're the coach, you can't prioritize an exhibition game over your whole next season. Next year's starter needs to rest that sore knee, let's play the third-stringer or that 7th year sr 3-time transfer that you brought in as an emergency back-up to the back-up, let's send that guy out with a start.

(12-21-2023 11:32 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:20 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:19 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:55 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. You play to win, you play to showcase your abilities. It could also spark boosters to keep that player there.

*Trust me. The Heels are decimated every Bowl Season and I've had to adjust my line of thinking. I have a meaningful game to watch this year vs a family member's alma mater (WVU grad). No Drake Maye and co.

If you're the coach, you can't prioritize an exhibition game over your whole next season. Next year's starter needs to rest that sore knew, let's play the third-stringer or that 7th year sr 3-time transfer that you brought in as an emergency back-up to the back-up, let's send that guy out with a start.

Unless he's on the hot seat, in which case he's throwing everything out there.

(12-21-2023 11:35 AM)Keswick_Crusaders_Forever51 Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:32 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:20 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:19 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. You play to win, you play to showcase your abilities. It could also spark boosters to keep that player there.

*Trust me. The Heels are decimated every Bowl Season and I've had to adjust my line of thinking. I have a meaningful game to watch this year vs a family member's alma mater (WVU grad). No Drake Maye and co.

If you're the coach, you can't prioritize an exhibition game over your whole next season. Next year's starter needs to rest that sore knew, let's play the third-stringer or that 7th year sr 3-time transfer that you brought in as an emergency back-up to the back-up, let's send that guy out with a start.

Unless he's on the hot seat, in which case he's throwing everything out there.

It's always been the case, but bowl games are very contextual. It's why I don't think they're always great indicators for the next season (I think the numbers back me up on this). There are just too many variables, some obvious and some not. And now we've added opt-outs and protecting yourself from the transfer-portal to the already long list.

Back to the original post, I agree with some other comments that there really isn't enough incentive to bother. The bowl committee is going to get all their side-perks and salaries even if the game stinks (or the best players don't play, which isn't the same thing necessarily). Over time, it's a risk to the whole system maybe, but in the short run? Wouldn't be worth it.

I like the current arrangement.

Let the quitters who are all about themselves identify themselves before the draft.

(12-21-2023 11:32 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:20 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:19 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 10:55 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  If I’m a coach, I’d probably want next year’s quarterback playing in a real game situation and would be fine with my Heisman winner leaving.

Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. You play to win, you play to showcase your abilities. It could also spark boosters to keep that player there.

*Trust me. The Heels are decimated every Bowl Season and I've had to adjust my line of thinking. I have a meaningful game to watch this year vs a family member's alma mater (WVU grad). No Drake Maye and co.

If you're the coach, you can't prioritize an exhibition game over your whole next season. Next year's starter needs to rest that sore knee, let's play the third-stringer or that 7th year sr 3-time transfer that you brought in as an emergency back-up to the back-up, let's send that guy out with a start.

It's kind of hard to take plays off in football. Not sure if you've ever played or not

(12-21-2023 04:01 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:32 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:20 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:19 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(12-21-2023 11:15 AM)esayem Wrote:  Exactly. We just have to change our perspective. It used to be a great way to watch your favorite players one last time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

Now it's a great way to watch next season's players the first time in an interesting intersectional matchup while imbibing seasonal ales and ingesting fatty meats and cheeses.

But if next year's starter plays too well, he gets a phone call from "an old high school classmate" who drops the appropriate hints about an NIL offer to go play somewhere else. You gotta hide those hidden gems as long as possible so you at least get that one good season out of them.

Nothing wrong with that IMO. You play to win, you play to showcase your abilities. It could also spark boosters to keep that player there.

*Trust me. The Heels are decimated every Bowl Season and I've had to adjust my line of thinking. I have a meaningful game to watch this year vs a family member's alma mater (WVU grad). No Drake Maye and co.

If you're the coach, you can't prioritize an exhibition game over your whole next season. Next year's starter needs to rest that sore knee, let's play the third-stringer or that 7th year sr 3-time transfer that you brought in as an emergency back-up to the back-up, let's send that guy out with a start.

It's kind of hard to take plays off in football. Not sure if you've ever played or not

I have played football. I didn't mean go on the field and take it easy -

I'm talking about the coach's motivations. I was trying to (halfway) joke that he should leave next year's starter on the bench and play the 3rd or 4th stringer. Don't showcase your hope for next season only to get him poached away (and of course he might get mad about not getting the start and leave for that reason, too).