(04-12-2024 11:23 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(04-12-2024 08:56 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Any new news from anyone on here about this campaign?

See the link below, the doc states that NIU technically started the $500 million raise in 2022? 2 questions after reading:

https://www.cityofdekalb.com/DocumentCen...U-Proposal

1) How can the $500 mil raise be 1+ years old and none of us know about it?

2) When I was at NIU (and in a frat), the administration always correctly discussed the need to move the greeks closer to campus, to connect them better to campus. Having said that, why build a greek HQ (which many campuses have now) so far away at the site of the old jungle? Why not place it closer to the Plaza-area, so that it helps connect the greek neighborhood to campus?

Here are possible explanations (albeit made up by me):

1. The fundraising campaign, like most other things at NIU is a secret. You need to be one of the select few anointed mega donors to know about it. As it gets to the more normal people after the mega donors have emptied their bank accounts but the goal has not been reached by a long shot, the university will accept your checks just to demonstrate its inclusivity.

2. Sorry to say that the Greeks do not fit the university’s DEI goals (read: “requirements”). Areas closer to the campus need to be held for fringe groups that meet the university’s woke philosophies and cancel culture predilections.

You might be surprised at how much your #2 permeates the NIU community ...

A Speech First report dated April 2024 entitled "NO GRADUATION WITHOUT INDOCTRINATION: THE DEI COURSE MANDATE" (caps copied from actual title as published) says that of 248 colleges and universities whose requirements were checked, 67% require a DEI component to graduate.

All such institutions were listed with links to their DEI mandate, including NIU. Here is the NIU page in the report ...

https://perma.cc/6XLS-KNDX

Enjoy reading.

(04-12-2024 10:08 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  This president was all in on this woke pile of crap, she is either clueless or spineless. She is the Sally Struthers of University presidents.

Go woke, Go Broke. And NIU a once 25,000 student enrollment is circling the drains right now due to some incredibly stupid moves by administration. President Freeman should be removed of her position immediately

(04-12-2024 11:45 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(04-12-2024 11:23 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(04-12-2024 08:56 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Any new news from anyone on here about this campaign?

See the link below, the doc states that NIU technically started the $500 million raise in 2022? 2 questions after reading:

https://www.cityofdekalb.com/DocumentCen...U-Proposal

1) How can the $500 mil raise be 1+ years old and none of us know about it?

2) When I was at NIU (and in a frat), the administration always correctly discussed the need to move the greeks closer to campus, to connect them better to campus. Having said that, why build a greek HQ (which many campuses have now) so far away at the site of the old jungle? Why not place it closer to the Plaza-area, so that it helps connect the greek neighborhood to campus?

Here are possible explanations (albeit made up by me):

1. The fundraising campaign, like most other things at NIU is a secret. You need to be one of the select few anointed mega donors to know about it. As it gets to the more normal people after the mega donors have emptied their bank accounts but the goal has not been reached by a long shot, the university will accept your checks just to demonstrate its inclusivity.

2. Sorry to say that the Greeks do not fit the university’s DEI goals (read: “requirements”). Areas closer to the campus need to be held for fringe groups that meet the university’s woke philosophies and cancel culture predilections.

You might be surprised at how much your #2 permeates the NIU community ...

A Speech First report dated April 2024 entitled "NO GRADUATION WITHOUT INDOCTRINATION: THE DEI COURSE MANDATE" (caps copied from actual title as published) says that of 248 colleges and universities whose requirements were checked, 67% require a DEI component to graduate.

All such institutions were listed with links to their DEI mandate, including NIU. Here is the NIU page in the report ...

https://perma.cc/6XLS-KNDX

Enjoy reading.

Then there is that seminar they had last year on the “hegemony of white linguistics “. A few years ago, no one would believe this crap.

My neighbor’s son goes to UIC. He said that DEI is everywhere there, too. Almost daily e-mails, webinars, courses, etc. This seems to be the case at most universities. The more it’s shoved down people’s throats, the more resistance there is. It’s obviously great that the awareness is there, but force feeding is not the way to do it.

(04-13-2024 10:35 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  My neighbor’s son goes to UIC. He said that DEI is everywhere there, too. Almost daily e-mails, webinars, courses, etc. This seems to be the case at most universities. The more it’s shoved down people’s throats, the more resistance there is. It’s obviously great that the awareness is there, but force feeding is not the way to do it.

It's been a thing for decades, though I'm sure it's growing at an exponential rate.

When I was at NIU in the 90s, lets say around 97 or so, I still had one of those humanities or something electives which I had punted down the road for a while and was left with limited options. One of them was some kind of a women's studies class and I thought....hmmm....might be interesting as the other options were not at all interesting.

Boy was I in for a rude awakening.

The class consisted of about 50 or so students and there were maybe 5 guys (including myself) in the class. I attended the first 3 classes, typically sitting in the same general area or same seat. There was a nice enough girl who typically sat near me and we talked to each other before class each time.

The class was taught by a middle-aged, black lady who seemed intent on creating some kind of argument with me and a couple other dudes in the class. I wouldn't even raise my hand and she'd call me out for my take on things. I'd, knowing full well what my situation was, answered in what I thought were fairly general and safe responses but that didn't seem to matter. I was continually targeted class after class until I finally had enough and just dropped the class right before the deadline.

I'd had enough and it was clear what the instructor wanted. Which...sure, did I giver her what she wanted? Yup. But I also simply didn't want to deal with it and had way more on my plate to deal with than some argument I didn't want to be a part of.

Honestly, I was genuinely interested in hearing the perspective and maybe learning something or being exposed to something I hadn't known before, but the instructor didn't want me (or any of the guys there) and made that clear through her actions.

About a week after dropping the class, I ran into that female student I talked to in class and she made a comment about not seeing me there and figured I'd dropped the class. I said I had but didn't elaborate. She just laughed and said she was surprised I made it to as many classes as I had and that she hated the teacher and always felt uncomfortable with how she targeted me and the other guys in class. She said they didn't even really get into any curriculum until all of the guys in the class had dropped.

She said, I don't blame you for dropping...I'd have dropped too. It's a dumb class and no one needs to put up with that.

I probably should have proposed to that gal right then and there.

Anyway, this has been coming for a while. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us in 1984 (of all years...) but of course too many people just laughed it off at the time.

A few years ago, I worked for an unnamed governmental employer. I was required to take several DEI webinars/seminars and even had to make it a part of my annual performance goals. You can imagine the backlash from the employees.

The public phase has been delayed years as they try to get leadership donors. Here is the latest from the foundation in March 2024. Starts at the 26:29 mark.

https://live.media.niu.edu/video/archive...240321.mp3


https://doit.niu.edu/president/_pdf/lead...update.pdf

Per my earlier post, if anyone is interested to see who is on the list of "DEI mandate schools," here's the link to the full report. Scroll to the end (before endnotes) for an alphabetical list. UIC, NIU, UofI are on it, but IllSt, SIU, EIU, WIU and SIU-E are not. Maybe they didn't check those.

https://speechfirst.org/wp-content/uploa...Report.pdf

IMO, some alumni may be turned off by all this and not willing to participate in fundraising because of the budget "game" of sliding money around. It's hard to tell exactly where your donation is going sometimes. Add that to the long-standing students-are-headcount admin attitude, the emphasis on becoming a Hispanic/Latino higher ed locale to suck in federal grants (instead of focusing on being attractive to all, as a state university should), and that's a lot working against a big fundraiser.

Appreciate Big Red citing his own experiences with it, but I believe with the Freeman Regime it has greatly expanded. Think about the changes in Athletics we've heard and talked about in just the past few years.

(04-12-2024 02:57 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(04-12-2024 02:42 PM)Klake1987 Wrote:  

(04-12-2024 12:36 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  A few additional notes ...
... Prez. Freeman's (et al) push to become a Hispanic/Latino draw to earn federal grant money actually flips the coin on fundraising, since students and families seeking financial aid are in no position to raise funding.
... "Bidenomics" has tightened a lot of belts, including those of even Middle Class alumni etc. who are more concerned with the price of eggs and bread than whether the school they are no longer connected with covers its $x-million deficit.
--- per the "a$$ bite" comment in my earlier post, NIU's traditional view of students as college and department headcount instead of future alumni is sitting there waiting to chomp on some bureaucratic behinds.

I could add a few more, but ...

I currently donate a small amount every year. With inflation and getting closer to the
Retirement, trying so save money. My disposable income has shrunk drastically

I am retired (if not retarded), and my monthly income has dropped considerably. I still donate but not as much as I used to. Too bad the Alumni Association does not have donation programs specifically for retired seniors on a fixed income. Set up smaller challenges that retirees can comfortably participate in and feel their worth as an important part of NIU. I know that there are bequest programs, but some people may prefer to donate while they’re still above ground. They could create something like senior donor groups or clubs complete with membership cards, badges, etc. Membership costs could be small - one time or monthly.

This is a damn good idea, IF it is coupled with a link to each project showing what it's for and how much has been raised.

Here's the deal. NIU was able to raise the $500M in secret. The admin didn't need any of us dweebs and peasants to do it. Big things coming and none of us are invited. Ever see an advertisement for a Ferrari? Of course not. This is top level on a need to know basis stuff.

#GodsPlan

(04-13-2024 10:35 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  My neighbor’s son goes to UIC. He said that DEI is everywhere there, too. Almost daily e-mails, webinars, courses, etc. This seems to be the case at most universities. The more it’s shoved down people’s throats, the more resistance there is. It’s obviously great that the awareness is there, but force feeding is not the way to do it.

Yea IMO, DEI is a good thing, but you can have too much of a good thing. Going overboard on it isn't going to help.

(04-13-2024 11:00 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-13-2024 10:35 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  My neighbor’s son goes to UIC. He said that DEI is everywhere there, too. Almost daily e-mails, webinars, courses, etc. This seems to be the case at most universities. The more it’s shoved down people’s throats, the more resistance there is. It’s obviously great that the awareness is there, but force feeding is not the way to do it.

It's been a thing for decades, though I'm sure it's growing at an exponential rate.

When I was at NIU in the 90s, lets say around 97 or so, I still had one of those humanities or something electives which I had punted down the road for a while and was left with limited options. One of them was some kind of a women's studies class and I thought....hmmm....might be interesting as the other options were not at all interesting.

Boy was I in for a rude awakening.

The class consisted of about 50 or so students and there were maybe 5 guys (including myself) in the class. I attended the first 3 classes, typically sitting in the same general area or same seat. There was a nice enough girl who typically sat near me and we talked to each other before class each time.

The class was taught by a middle-aged, black lady who seemed intent on creating some kind of argument with me and a couple other dudes in the class. I wouldn't even raise my hand and she'd call me out for my take on things. I'd, knowing full well what my situation was, answered in what I thought were fairly general and safe responses but that didn't seem to matter. I was continually targeted class after class until I finally had enough and just dropped the class right before the deadline.

I'd had enough and it was clear what the instructor wanted. Which...sure, did I giver her what she wanted? Yup. But I also simply didn't want to deal with it and had way more on my plate to deal with than some argument I didn't want to be a part of.

Honestly, I was genuinely interested in hearing the perspective and maybe learning something or being exposed to something I hadn't known before, but the instructor didn't want me (or any of the guys there) and made that clear through her actions.

About a week after dropping the class, I ran into that female student I talked to in class and she made a comment about not seeing me there and figured I'd dropped the class. I said I had but didn't elaborate. She just laughed and said she was surprised I made it to as many classes as I had and that she hated the teacher and always felt uncomfortable with how she targeted me and the other guys in class. She said they didn't even really get into any curriculum until all of the guys in the class had dropped.

She said, I don't blame you for dropping...I'd have dropped too. It's a dumb class and no one needs to put up with that.

I probably should have proposed to that gal right then and there.

Anyway, this has been coming for a while. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us in 1984 (of all years...) but of course too many people just laughed it off at the time.

In early 90s I signed up for women’s studies. About 45 yo long haired woman. Again about 35 females to about 3-4 guys. She said something to start class, in a sarcastic manner about maybe you don’t want to be in this class. It was a women’s prospective or something . Me another guy got the message. Got up, walked out and dropped the class.

Let’s be honest. Guys don’t take the class to be experts. I got the message and left. But I will say if it was a guy professor saying something like that….

(04-15-2024 06:18 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(04-13-2024 11:00 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-13-2024 10:35 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  My neighbor’s son goes to UIC. He said that DEI is everywhere there, too. Almost daily e-mails, webinars, courses, etc. This seems to be the case at most universities. The more it’s shoved down people’s throats, the more resistance there is. It’s obviously great that the awareness is there, but force feeding is not the way to do it.

It's been a thing for decades, though I'm sure it's growing at an exponential rate.

When I was at NIU in the 90s, lets say around 97 or so, I still had one of those humanities or something electives which I had punted down the road for a while and was left with limited options. One of them was some kind of a women's studies class and I thought....hmmm....might be interesting as the other options were not at all interesting.

Boy was I in for a rude awakening.

The class consisted of about 50 or so students and there were maybe 5 guys (including myself) in the class. I attended the first 3 classes, typically sitting in the same general area or same seat. There was a nice enough girl who typically sat near me and we talked to each other before class each time.

The class was taught by a middle-aged, black lady who seemed intent on creating some kind of argument with me and a couple other dudes in the class. I wouldn't even raise my hand and she'd call me out for my take on things. I'd, knowing full well what my situation was, answered in what I thought were fairly general and safe responses but that didn't seem to matter. I was continually targeted class after class until I finally had enough and just dropped the class right before the deadline.

I'd had enough and it was clear what the instructor wanted. Which...sure, did I giver her what she wanted? Yup. But I also simply didn't want to deal with it and had way more on my plate to deal with than some argument I didn't want to be a part of.

Honestly, I was genuinely interested in hearing the perspective and maybe learning something or being exposed to something I hadn't known before, but the instructor didn't want me (or any of the guys there) and made that clear through her actions.

About a week after dropping the class, I ran into that female student I talked to in class and she made a comment about not seeing me there and figured I'd dropped the class. I said I had but didn't elaborate. She just laughed and said she was surprised I made it to as many classes as I had and that she hated the teacher and always felt uncomfortable with how she targeted me and the other guys in class. She said they didn't even really get into any curriculum until all of the guys in the class had dropped.

She said, I don't blame you for dropping...I'd have dropped too. It's a dumb class and no one needs to put up with that.

I probably should have proposed to that gal right then and there.

Anyway, this has been coming for a while. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us in 1984 (of all years...) but of course too many people just laughed it off at the time.

In early 90s I signed up for women’s studies. About 45 yo long haired woman. Again about 35 females to about 3-4 guys. She said something to start class, in a sarcastic manner about maybe you don’t want to be in this class. It was a women’s prospective or something . Me another guy got the message. Got up, walked out and dropped the class.

Let’s be honest. Guys don’t take the class to be experts. I got the message and left. But I will say if it was a guy professor saying something like that….

You guys took the wrong women's studies class. I took the class offered by the Paperback Grotto. It was the best class of all time!

(04-16-2024 04:34 PM)The Huskie Wrote:  

(04-15-2024 06:18 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(04-13-2024 11:00 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-13-2024 10:35 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  My neighbor’s son goes to UIC. He said that DEI is everywhere there, too. Almost daily e-mails, webinars, courses, etc. This seems to be the case at most universities. The more it’s shoved down people’s throats, the more resistance there is. It’s obviously great that the awareness is there, but force feeding is not the way to do it.

It's been a thing for decades, though I'm sure it's growing at an exponential rate.

When I was at NIU in the 90s, lets say around 97 or so, I still had one of those humanities or something electives which I had punted down the road for a while and was left with limited options. One of them was some kind of a women's studies class and I thought....hmmm....might be interesting as the other options were not at all interesting.

Boy was I in for a rude awakening.

The class consisted of about 50 or so students and there were maybe 5 guys (including myself) in the class. I attended the first 3 classes, typically sitting in the same general area or same seat. There was a nice enough girl who typically sat near me and we talked to each other before class each time.

The class was taught by a middle-aged, black lady who seemed intent on creating some kind of argument with me and a couple other dudes in the class. I wouldn't even raise my hand and she'd call me out for my take on things. I'd, knowing full well what my situation was, answered in what I thought were fairly general and safe responses but that didn't seem to matter. I was continually targeted class after class until I finally had enough and just dropped the class right before the deadline.

I'd had enough and it was clear what the instructor wanted. Which...sure, did I giver her what she wanted? Yup. But I also simply didn't want to deal with it and had way more on my plate to deal with than some argument I didn't want to be a part of.

Honestly, I was genuinely interested in hearing the perspective and maybe learning something or being exposed to something I hadn't known before, but the instructor didn't want me (or any of the guys there) and made that clear through her actions.

About a week after dropping the class, I ran into that female student I talked to in class and she made a comment about not seeing me there and figured I'd dropped the class. I said I had but didn't elaborate. She just laughed and said she was surprised I made it to as many classes as I had and that she hated the teacher and always felt uncomfortable with how she targeted me and the other guys in class. She said they didn't even really get into any curriculum until all of the guys in the class had dropped.

She said, I don't blame you for dropping...I'd have dropped too. It's a dumb class and no one needs to put up with that.

I probably should have proposed to that gal right then and there.

Anyway, this has been coming for a while. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us in 1984 (of all years...) but of course too many people just laughed it off at the time.

In early 90s I signed up for women’s studies. About 45 yo long haired woman. Again about 35 females to about 3-4 guys. She said something to start class, in a sarcastic manner about maybe you don’t want to be in this class. It was a women’s prospective or something . Me another guy got the message. Got up, walked out and dropped the class.

Let’s be honest. Guys don’t take the class to be experts. I got the message and left. But I will say if it was a guy professor saying something like that….

You guys took the wrong women's studies class. I took the class offered by the Paperback Grotto. It was the best class of all time!

Yep, it was very hard with a long sperm paper required. And yet guys loved the class and withdrawals were non-existent.