(12-12-2023 08:55 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Rumor is a series with Coastal is going to replace the Boise series.
As for the Marshall thing I don't know scuttle we've heard is it was mutual thing but who knows.
That would be awesome.
I always enjoy a trip to Dirty Myrtle, assuming you guys don't charge north of $100 a ticket for the game I'll probably be there. I went to the App game at 130 a ticket, and yeah it's gonna be the last time I go to an ECU game in Boone, it was cool and all but not spending 300 on 2 tickets and a parking pass cool. No shame to App they clearly could have charged more and still sold them for that one.
You charge what the market will bear. ECU, UNC, Miami, Wake Forest, etc. Even conference games now have some prices approaching $100 on the secondary market.
It's not just ECU, nor is it just P5's at this point.
Hey good for you, if your market will bear charging face value 130 for every game then that's awesome. I'm just not paying that much to go to Boone ever again, it was cool but not that cool. No shame charge what the market demands and having looked at the secondary market for that game you guys could have charged 200 face value and sold it out.
(12-12-2023 08:00 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote: Well, that's too bad. Between ECU and Ohio, these are the two regional teams that I most want to schedule as often as possible. Great history with both schools.
MU has a much longer series with OU than ECU. ECU does have the connection due to the plane crash, but after the plane crash there no games for eight years and it was another 23 years before we played ECU again in a bowl game. Of course we were conference mates, but the series stopped another 7 years before it started again. We have played 51 games with Ohio U and only 17 games with ECU.
So? I'd much rather see us play ECU than OU. I'm SO ready to put all the MAC in the rear view mirror and rarely, if ever, play them. Sure, I know Athens is so close that it makes a lot of sense, but ECU is a much better, bigger and more important game than playing Ohio.
(12-12-2023 08:00 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote: Well, that's too bad. Between ECU and Ohio, these are the two regional teams that I most want to schedule as often as possible. Great history with both schools.
MU has a much longer series with OU than ECU. ECU does have the connection due to the plane crash, but after the plane crash there no games for eight years and it was another 23 years before we played ECU again in a bowl game. Of course we were conference mates, but the series stopped another 7 years before it started again. We have played 51 games with Ohio U and only 17 games with ECU.
So? I'd much rather see us play ECU than OU. I'm SO ready to put all the MAC in the rear view mirror and rarely, if ever, play them. Sure, I know Athens is so close that it makes a lot of sense, but ECU is a much better, bigger and more important game than playing Ohio.
I understand, but the point is ECU has never shown much interest having a series with MU or maybe MU hasn't had the interest in playing a series with ECU over the years. The numbers don't lie, 23 years without a game (only played that game due to a bowl game). After ECU left CUSA, there wasn't a game for 7 years. Now ECU is cancelling the last game and picking up a replacement game for MU with a home game with Campbell. ECU is kinda like the girl who keeps dropping you.
I think they want to play wvu much more than playing MU.
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I can now see why both would like to cancel the series at this time.
For ECU, a game like Campbell better prepares them for the level of competition they will see in the AAC moving forward.
For Marshall, it eliminates an anvil in the SoS ratings as ECU was the only team on our schedule this year not playing postseason ball.
ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
(12-12-2023 01:34 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
1. The AAC is at best the 8th best conference in football, that's reality. With SMU leaving, the benefit of the doubt will be as well
2. ECU doesn't care about basketball any more than Southern Miss does, which is to say not at all.
3. ECU plays good baseball which, I don't know if you've noticed, is a bit of a specialty of this conference
I get that JMU's fan base and alumni base isn't typically "southern" in it's ways but this is a football and baseball confernece for the time being. That suits ECU perfectly well.
The AAC will also likely have a trigger to have their deal renegotiated with the departure of SMU which will, if it happens, drastically reduce their media payout. At that point, I couldn't see what benefit ECU has in staying in the AAC airport conference versus being in the Sun Belt which is still very much growing while the AAC is shrinking.
(12-12-2023 01:34 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
1. The AAC is at best the 8th best conference in football, that's reality. With SMU leaving, the benefit of the doubt will be as well
2. ECU doesn't care about basketball any more than Southern Miss does, which is to say not at all.
3. ECU plays good baseball which, I don't know if you've noticed, is a bit of a specialty of this conference
I get that JMU's fan base and alumni base isn't typically "southern" in it's ways but this is a football and baseball confernece for the time being. That suits ECU perfectly well.
The AAC will also likely have a trigger to have their deal renegotiated with the departure of SMU which will, if it happens, drastically reduce their media payout. At that point, I couldn't see what benefit ECU has in staying in the AAC airport conference versus being in the Sun Belt which is still very much growing while the AAC is shrinking.
Yep absolutely, Army finally agreed to join after the AAC literally trying for it's entire history to get them because the deal was finally getting shredded!!! Makes perfect sense, if you are an idiot.
(12-12-2023 01:34 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
1. The AAC is at best the 8th best conference in football, that's reality. With SMU leaving, the benefit of the doubt will be as well
2. ECU doesn't care about basketball any more than Southern Miss does, which is to say not at all.
3. ECU plays good baseball which, I don't know if you've noticed, is a bit of a specialty of this conference
I get that JMU's fan base and alumni base isn't typically "southern" in it's ways but this is a football and baseball confernece for the time being. That suits ECU perfectly well.
The AAC will also likely have a trigger to have their deal renegotiated with the departure of SMU which will, if it happens, drastically reduce their media payout. At that point, I couldn't see what benefit ECU has in staying in the AAC airport conference versus being in the Sun Belt which is still very much growing while the AAC is shrinking.
Yep absolutely, Army finally agreed to join after the AAC literally trying for it's entire history to get them because the deal was finally getting shredded!!! Makes perfect sense, if you are an idiot.
Could also be the fact that Army needed a conference home in order to have any chance at the access bowl. Thats why Liberty decided to drop a lot of amazing matchups to play an awful CUSA schedule. And it worked out in their very first year. If they weren't in CUSA they wouldn't have had that chance because they wouldn't be a conference champion. Army may be using the same logic.
If I understand things correctly, Marshall did not want to come back to Greenville to make up for the game that was not played in 2020 (the Covid season). Thus, no more games were scheduled.
That being said, I fully expect that we'll work out another home-and-home series in the future.
(12-12-2023 01:34 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
1. The AAC is at best the 8th best conference in football, that's reality. With SMU leaving, the benefit of the doubt will be as well
2. ECU doesn't care about basketball any more than Southern Miss does, which is to say not at all.
3. ECU plays good baseball which, I don't know if you've noticed, is a bit of a specialty of this conference
I get that JMU's fan base and alumni base isn't typically "southern" in it's ways but this is a football and baseball confernece for the time being. That suits ECU perfectly well.
The AAC will also likely have a trigger to have their deal renegotiated with the departure of SMU which will, if it happens, drastically reduce their media payout. At that point, I couldn't see what benefit ECU has in staying in the AAC airport conference versus being in the Sun Belt which is still very much growing while the AAC is shrinking.
1. I agree that the SBC is a better football conference than the AAC. Unfortunately, the rest of America doesn’t. See: SMU, Tulane and Troy. Poor disrespected Troy (seriously).
2. ECU has put a ton of resources into basketball, but they fail at that like most other things. Their head coach makes $900,000 a year, which would far and away lead the Sun Belt, but I may be mistaken. And they just put another million into Minges before the season.
3. Baseball doesn’t pay the bills. Football and basketball do.
No need to lecture a JMU fan about baseball. Both our baseball team and our softball team have been in the World Series. The only reason the best college baseball teams are in the south is because spring comes early and the season doesn’t run into summer.
ECU sucks. It’s a lousy school, their fans are delusional (if passionate), and they stink at most sports. They don’t add value to the Sun Belt, even if they wanted to move.
(12-12-2023 01:34 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
1. The AAC is at best the 8th best conference in football, that's reality. With SMU leaving, the benefit of the doubt will be as well
2. ECU doesn't care about basketball any more than Southern Miss does, which is to say not at all.
3. ECU plays good baseball which, I don't know if you've noticed, is a bit of a specialty of this conference
I get that JMU's fan base and alumni base isn't typically "southern" in it's ways but this is a football and baseball confernece for the time being. That suits ECU perfectly well.
The AAC will also likely have a trigger to have their deal renegotiated with the departure of SMU which will, if it happens, drastically reduce their media payout. At that point, I couldn't see what benefit ECU has in staying in the AAC airport conference versus being in the Sun Belt which is still very much growing while the AAC is shrinking.
Yep absolutely, Army finally agreed to join after the AAC literally trying for it's entire history to get them because the deal was finally getting shredded!!! Makes perfect sense, if you are an idiot.
Could also be the fact that Army needed a conference home in order to have any chance at the access bowl. Thats why Liberty decided to drop a lot of amazing matchups to play an awful CUSA schedule. And it worked out in their very first year. If they weren't in CUSA they wouldn't have had that chance because they wouldn't be a conference champion. Army may be using the same logic.
Yeaaahh....we're all gonna die in the next decade and Army's worried about the Access Bowl..
(12-12-2023 11:29 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Shared everything I know, but here's our AD yesterday regarding Coastal right before the announcement of the Boise series being cancelled. At the 29:30 mark.
I love the part right after that, where an ECU fan asks their own AD why their seats sucked for the game in Boone
Endzone seats aren't bad. You can sometimes see a play develop in ways you can't when sitting on the sidelines. Also, they don't have to buy their tickets from the ECU allotment.
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(12-12-2023 01:34 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: ECU jumping to the SBC would be a step down for them, because a) the rest of the country views the AAC as better in football, facts be damned, and b) the SBC is godawful in men’s basketball.
1. The AAC is at best the 8th best conference in football, that's reality. With SMU leaving, the benefit of the doubt will be as well
2. ECU doesn't care about basketball any more than Southern Miss does, which is to say not at all.
3. ECU plays good baseball which, I don't know if you've noticed, is a bit of a specialty of this conference
I get that JMU's fan base and alumni base isn't typically "southern" in it's ways but this is a football and baseball confernece for the time being. That suits ECU perfectly well.
The AAC will also likely have a trigger to have their deal renegotiated with the departure of SMU which will, if it happens, drastically reduce their media payout. At that point, I couldn't see what benefit ECU has in staying in the AAC airport conference versus being in the Sun Belt which is still very much growing while the AAC is shrinking.
Yep absolutely, Army finally agreed to join after the AAC literally trying for it's entire history to get them because the deal was finally getting shredded!!! Makes perfect sense, if you are an idiot.
Could also be the fact that Army needed a conference home in order to have any chance at the access bowl. Thats why Liberty decided to drop a lot of amazing matchups to play an awful CUSA schedule. And it worked out in their very first year. If they weren't in CUSA they wouldn't have had that chance because they wouldn't be a conference champion. Army may be using the same logic.
Yeaaahh....we're all gonna die in the next decade and Army's worried about the Access Bowl..
(12-12-2023 11:29 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Shared everything I know, but here's our AD yesterday regarding Coastal right before the announcement of the Boise series being cancelled. At the 29:30 mark.
I love the part right after that, where an ECU fan asks their own AD why their seats sucked for the game in Boone
Endzone seats aren't bad. You can sometimes see a play develop in ways you can't when sitting on the sidelines. Also, they don't have to buy their tickets from the ECU allotment.
Sometimes endzone seats aren't bad, but the ones in your temp bleachers are way too low to see anything developing. I sat there, it wasn't a great view of the game, but yes that was a dumb question because he has no input on what seats we are given and they are always going to be the least desirable seats that's the same thing we give to visitors. In terms of they didn't have to buy them from the ECU allotment, that's true and I'm sure plenty didn't, but unless you wanted to pay 200+ per ticket you needed to buy from ECU. I thought about the secondary market to guarantee a better seat, but it is what it is the prices were stupid high.
(12-13-2023 10:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote: This was clearly an action by ECU. Why would we cancel a winnable home against a program Marshall fans like to play. Answer is, we wouldn't.
Maybe so, doesn't seem to make sense to me that Marshall wouldn't want to reschedule the cancelled Covid game. We only hear the ECU side of this, and the ECU side of this being leaked out makes it sound like a mutual decision. I'll be interested to hear from your end if they disagree with that assessment. My opinion of ECU's AD is at an all time low right now so I'm not taking anything leaking from them as the truth.
(12-13-2023 10:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote: This was clearly an action by ECU. Why would we cancel a winnable home against a program Marshall fans like to play. Answer is, we wouldn't.
Maybe so, doesn't seem to make sense to me that Marshall wouldn't want to reschedule the cancelled Covid game. We only hear the ECU side of this, and the ECU side of this being leaked out makes it sound like a mutual decision. I'll be interested to hear from your end if they disagree with that assessment. My opinion of ECU's AD is at an all time low right now so I'm not taking anything leaking from them as the truth.
Well I for one love the Marshall v ECU series and I hope we reschedule.
(12-13-2023 10:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote: This was clearly an action by ECU. Why would we cancel a winnable home against a program Marshall fans like to play. Answer is, we wouldn't.
Maybe so, doesn't seem to make sense to me that Marshall wouldn't want to reschedule the cancelled Covid game. We only hear the ECU side of this, and the ECU side of this being leaked out makes it sound like a mutual decision. I'll be interested to hear from your end if they disagree with that assessment. My opinion of ECU's AD is at an all time low right now so I'm not taking anything leaking from them as the truth.
I'm curious to know why we haven't heard anything from Marshall's athletic department about this. Any of you Marshal fans know why?
(12-13-2023 10:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote: This was clearly an action by ECU. Why would we cancel a winnable home against a program Marshall fans like to play. Answer is, we wouldn't.
Maybe so, doesn't seem to make sense to me that Marshall wouldn't want to reschedule the cancelled Covid game. We only hear the ECU side of this, and the ECU side of this being leaked out makes it sound like a mutual decision. I'll be interested to hear from your end if they disagree with that assessment. My opinion of ECU's AD is at an all time low right now so I'm not taking anything leaking from them as the truth.
I'm curious to know why we haven't heard anything from Marshall's athletic department about this. Any of you Marshal fans know why?
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Hell they didn't even address Huff's remarks from last week. Why would this be any different? I guess we're on a "need to know" basis.
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