35 James Madison
47 App State
143 Georgia State
182 Louisiana
200 Texas State
227 Old Dominion
244 Troy
259 Southern Miss
268 Marshall
272 ULM
280 Arkansas State
294 South Alabama
338 Coastal Carolina
345 Georgia Southern

Not great...

(12-04-2023 11:56 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  35 James Madison
47 App State
143 Georgia State
182 Louisiana
200 Texas State
227 Old Dominion
244 Troy
259 Southern Miss
268 Marshall
272 ULM
280 Arkansas State
294 South Alabama
338 Coastal Carolina
345 Georgia Southern

Not great...

How many D1 teams are there again?

259 after beating UAB in Bartow ... yeah ... same shite, different day...

just win, honeys!

(12-04-2023 11:56 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  35 James Madison
47 App State
143 Georgia State
182 Louisiana
200 Texas State
227 Old Dominion
244 Troy
259 Southern Miss
268 Marshall
272 ULM
280 Arkansas State
294 South Alabama
338 Coastal Carolina
345 Georgia Southern

Not great...

What is the highest NET/RPI rating a Sun Belt team has finished with?

Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

I thought South Alabama had good basketball? Why do I feel like JMU and App could win out, split their games, one of them wins the tournament, and both not get to the NCAA Tournament? Obviously that's unlikely to happen but is that how bad this conference is?

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

We tried to rebuild Rome in a day, it just didn't work...

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

Since we became DI in basketball we've had 6 (I think) head coaches not counting the current one. We've hired 3 major-conference assistants as head coaches, all were duds. On the other hand among the 3 good hires two had success as a head coach DII and Mark Byington at least worked in a mid-major conferences a while and was an interim at Charleston.

What does our silly athletic director do? Hire an Alabama assistant from a staff where it looked like the entire coaching staff was trying to get out of dodge (Kennesaw State and Ark State also took coaches from that staff).

(12-04-2023 12:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

I thought South Alabama had good basketball? Why do I feel like JMU and App could win out, split their games, one of them wins the tournament, and both not get to the NCAA Tournament? Obviously that's unlikely to happen but is that how bad this conference is?

We are dealing with injuries and newcomers. It’s going to be a tough year.

(12-04-2023 12:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

I thought South Alabama had good basketball? Why do I feel like JMU and App could win out, split their games, one of them wins the tournament, and both not get to the NCAA Tournament? Obviously that's unlikely to happen but is that how bad this conference is?

Conference play is going to destroy App and JMU’s ratings.

(12-04-2023 01:54 PM)Dignan Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

I thought South Alabama had good basketball? Why do I feel like JMU and App could win out, split their games, one of them wins the tournament, and both not get to the NCAA Tournament? Obviously that's unlikely to happen but is that how bad this conference is?

Conference play is going to destroy App and JMU’s ratings.

Unlike RPI NET works by using offensive efficiency - defensive efficiency. So as long as they are winning by a lot it won't matter.

(12-04-2023 12:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

We tried to rebuild Rome in a day, it just didn't work...

"can't fight the tape" - said someone

(12-04-2023 02:15 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 01:54 PM)Dignan Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:39 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:29 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-04-2023 12:22 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Top 5 that averages 121.


Oof indeed.

More concerned about the other side.

Would like to see all teams near or above 200 at a minimum.
300+ says you just don't care.

I thought South Alabama had good basketball? Why do I feel like JMU and App could win out, split their games, one of them wins the tournament, and both not get to the NCAA Tournament? Obviously that's unlikely to happen but is that how bad this conference is?

Conference play is going to destroy App and JMU’s ratings.

Unlike RPI NET works by using offensive efficiency - defensive efficiency. So as long as they are winning by a lot it won't matter.

that's how 'muh' works in the land o' 'statistics' ... manipulation is the key to the kingdom....

Both of Cliff Ellis's Sun Belt legacies are neck and neck near the bottom! I do love the man but hate to see him sailing into the all-time winningest head coaches' sunset like this. Also, thank you, Georgia Southern, because misery does indeed love company...

Avg. NET per our peers:

MWC: 107
AAC: 159
CUSA: 203
MAC: 205
SBC: 217

With roster turnovers every year it may take some time to gel. At least that’s what I’m hoping……

(12-04-2023 04:09 PM)TTT Wrote:  Avg. NET per our peers:

MWC: 107
AAC: 159
CUSA: 203
MAC: 205
SBC: 217

Those are our peers in football. Our peers in basketball are different unfortunately.

(12-04-2023 04:09 PM)TTT Wrote:  Avg. NET per our peers:

MWC: 107
AAC: 159
CUSA: 203
MAC: 205
SBC: 217

That' what we were expecting last year. That many SBC teams being good at basketball at the same time was a new thing. Would love for it to be the norm, but it may have just been an outlier.

With a horribly weak SOS I don't think this keeps up unless by some miracle JMU goes undefeated this season, but good press for the Sun Belt while it lasts.

No A10 or most other mid-major conferences. Since it's going to be a long grind to build up the Sun Belt's perception in basketball by improving all our programs, it will probably happen quicker with Top 25s appearances and Sweet 16 tourney runs (when did that last happen?).