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(11-29-2023 04:53 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  I wonder what Wes's deal is with JJ? He was screaming at him at one of the final time outs when he was on the floor. JJ obviously gave them a late spark to re-take the lead, but then he was on the bench in the final minutes of regulation and in OT. If it was a defensive issue, his defense couldn't have been any worse than Simas.

He was just coaching him. Said he went with Day Day late because of experience and comfort but also said it might have been the wrong decision given how well JJ played in the second half stretch. JJ is going to be closing some games before you know it.

(11-29-2023 11:20 AM)SinceHeWillWin Wrote:  Here are my takeaways from the game:

1) That was scary, but no one will remember the near-disaster of last night once conference play starts. 6-0 is a good place to be even with our schedule.

2) First road game was really rough in front of a half-full gym that seats 2,700 people, the second road game will be sold out in Norwood, OH. Whatever it was about playing in a new setting, they've gotta make some changes fast.

3) Our three-point shooting dried up to the point where only one guy on the team made a three-point attempt. BUT guess what? We stopped shooting threes in the second half. It wasn't working, inside game and offensive glass was working so our coaching seems to have pivoted (who knew you could do that?)

4) This team is new together and it was nice to see them rally from a disappointing 1st and 2nd half and find a way to win. That will be a valuable skill as the season goes on. This speaks to quality coaching and a tough mentality.

5) Who scheduled this and why? As a precedent, a Big 12 school (or even an American Athletic Conference school) should not travel to an MEAC school. Neutral court? occasionally.

All in all, I give Wes a lot of credit for getting out of a jam last night. In the past, I suspect we could have gotten in a pickle like this and lost. What we would have heard afterward was, "you can't coach the ball into the hoop." While that is true, you can coach better shot selection and use an adaptive offensive strategy that rolls with the punches. Well done all around!

Actually I really like this scheduling and hope it does serve as a precedent of sorts. For UC to be successful they have to be able to win in far more adversarial situations than a trip to Howard presented. Winning on the road when it's the highlight game of the season for the other team is something especially younger players have to learn how to do and something teams that are learning to gel and incorporate new pieces also have to do. UC was fortunate to be able to learn the lessons it did and escape with a W in a game it was out hustled and out played in but fortunately was overly talented and just too tall for a game Howard team. And don't forget, Howard didn't have their conf player of the year candidate for most of the game. Hopefully this game at least lays the foundation for what the Bearcats are going to face in more hostile environments against significantly more talented teams in the Big XII.

I hope that Wes and the scheduling coordinators find a similar game every year, early in the year, where they go to a lesser known but talented D1 school, especially in a talent rich area like DC or NY etc where the opponent is overly passionate about the opportunity to play a "UC" type school. In today's portal version of CBB any exposure is good exposure and this type of lesson is extra valuable if you can get it and escape with the win like UC did.

(11-30-2023 10:43 AM)Cal1362 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 11:20 AM)SinceHeWillWin Wrote:  Here are my takeaways from the game:

1) That was scary, but no one will remember the near-disaster of last night once conference play starts. 6-0 is a good place to be even with our schedule.

2) First road game was really rough in front of a half-full gym that seats 2,700 people, the second road game will be sold out in Norwood, OH. Whatever it was about playing in a new setting, they've gotta make some changes fast.

3) Our three-point shooting dried up to the point where only one guy on the team made a three-point attempt. BUT guess what? We stopped shooting threes in the second half. It wasn't working, inside game and offensive glass was working so our coaching seems to have pivoted (who knew you could do that?)

4) This team is new together and it was nice to see them rally from a disappointing 1st and 2nd half and find a way to win. That will be a valuable skill as the season goes on. This speaks to quality coaching and a tough mentality.

5) Who scheduled this and why? As a precedent, a Big 12 school (or even an American Athletic Conference school) should not travel to an MEAC school. Neutral court? occasionally.

All in all, I give Wes a lot of credit for getting out of a jam last night. In the past, I suspect we could have gotten in a pickle like this and lost. What we would have heard afterward was, "you can't coach the ball into the hoop." While that is true, you can coach better shot selection and use an adaptive offensive strategy that rolls with the punches. Well done all around!

Actually I really like this scheduling and hope it does serve as a precedent of sorts. For UC to be successful they have to be able to win in far more adversarial situations than a trip to Howard presented. Winning on the road when it's the highlight game of the season for the other team is something especially younger players have to learn how to do and something teams that are learning to gel and incorporate new pieces also have to do. UC was fortunate to be able to learn the lessons it did and escape with a W in a game it was out hustled and out played in but fortunately was overly talented and just too tall for a game Howard team. And don't forget, Howard didn't have their conf player of the year candidate for most of the game. Hopefully this game at least lays the foundation for what the Bearcats are going to face in more hostile environments against significantly more talented teams in the Big XII.

I hope that Wes and the scheduling coordinators find a similar game every year, early in the year, where they go to a lesser known but talented D1 school, especially in a talent rich area like DC or NY etc where the opponent is overly passionate about the opportunity to play a "UC" type school. In today's portal version of CBB any exposure is good exposure and this type of lesson is extra valuable if you can get it and escape with the win like UC did.

But it kills our computer rankings.

In order to be a Q2 opponent in the NET rankings, an away game must be against an opponent ranked between 76-135.

Since they started using NET in 2019, the best MEAC school was Norfolk State at 169 in 2021-22.

(11-30-2023 12:17 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 10:43 AM)Cal1362 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 11:20 AM)SinceHeWillWin Wrote:  Here are my takeaways from the game:

1) That was scary, but no one will remember the near-disaster of last night once conference play starts. 6-0 is a good place to be even with our schedule.

2) First road game was really rough in front of a half-full gym that seats 2,700 people, the second road game will be sold out in Norwood, OH. Whatever it was about playing in a new setting, they've gotta make some changes fast.

3) Our three-point shooting dried up to the point where only one guy on the team made a three-point attempt. BUT guess what? We stopped shooting threes in the second half. It wasn't working, inside game and offensive glass was working so our coaching seems to have pivoted (who knew you could do that?)

4) This team is new together and it was nice to see them rally from a disappointing 1st and 2nd half and find a way to win. That will be a valuable skill as the season goes on. This speaks to quality coaching and a tough mentality.

5) Who scheduled this and why? As a precedent, a Big 12 school (or even an American Athletic Conference school) should not travel to an MEAC school. Neutral court? occasionally.

All in all, I give Wes a lot of credit for getting out of a jam last night. In the past, I suspect we could have gotten in a pickle like this and lost. What we would have heard afterward was, "you can't coach the ball into the hoop." While that is true, you can coach better shot selection and use an adaptive offensive strategy that rolls with the punches. Well done all around!

Actually I really like this scheduling and hope it does serve as a precedent of sorts. For UC to be successful they have to be able to win in far more adversarial situations than a trip to Howard presented. Winning on the road when it's the highlight game of the season for the other team is something especially younger players have to learn how to do and something teams that are learning to gel and incorporate new pieces also have to do. UC was fortunate to be able to learn the lessons it did and escape with a W in a game it was out hustled and out played in but fortunately was overly talented and just too tall for a game Howard team. And don't forget, Howard didn't have their conf player of the year candidate for most of the game. Hopefully this game at least lays the foundation for what the Bearcats are going to face in more hostile environments against significantly more talented teams in the Big XII.

I hope that Wes and the scheduling coordinators find a similar game every year, early in the year, where they go to a lesser known but talented D1 school, especially in a talent rich area like DC or NY etc where the opponent is overly passionate about the opportunity to play a "UC" type school. In today's portal version of CBB any exposure is good exposure and this type of lesson is extra valuable if you can get it and escape with the win like UC did.

But it kills our computer rankings.

In order to be a Q2 opponent in the NET rankings, an away game must be against an opponent ranked between 76-135.

Since they started using NET in 2019, the best MEAC school was Norfolk State at 169 in 2021-22.

To be fair, by all accounts the Howard game was never supposed to happen. It sounds like UC was trying to schedule a home-and-home with another team, it fell through, they scrambled to backfill, and landed on Howard. Is what it is.

(11-30-2023 12:17 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 10:43 AM)Cal1362 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 11:20 AM)SinceHeWillWin Wrote:  Here are my takeaways from the game:

1) That was scary, but no one will remember the near-disaster of last night once conference play starts. 6-0 is a good place to be even with our schedule.

2) First road game was really rough in front of a half-full gym that seats 2,700 people, the second road game will be sold out in Norwood, OH. Whatever it was about playing in a new setting, they've gotta make some changes fast.

3) Our three-point shooting dried up to the point where only one guy on the team made a three-point attempt. BUT guess what? We stopped shooting threes in the second half. It wasn't working, inside game and offensive glass was working so our coaching seems to have pivoted (who knew you could do that?)

4) This team is new together and it was nice to see them rally from a disappointing 1st and 2nd half and find a way to win. That will be a valuable skill as the season goes on. This speaks to quality coaching and a tough mentality.

5) Who scheduled this and why? As a precedent, a Big 12 school (or even an American Athletic Conference school) should not travel to an MEAC school. Neutral court? occasionally.

All in all, I give Wes a lot of credit for getting out of a jam last night. In the past, I suspect we could have gotten in a pickle like this and lost. What we would have heard afterward was, "you can't coach the ball into the hoop." While that is true, you can coach better shot selection and use an adaptive offensive strategy that rolls with the punches. Well done all around!

Actually I really like this scheduling and hope it does serve as a precedent of sorts. For UC to be successful they have to be able to win in far more adversarial situations than a trip to Howard presented. Winning on the road when it's the highlight game of the season for the other team is something especially younger players have to learn how to do and something teams that are learning to gel and incorporate new pieces also have to do. UC was fortunate to be able to learn the lessons it did and escape with a W in a game it was out hustled and out played in but fortunately was overly talented and just too tall for a game Howard team. And don't forget, Howard didn't have their conf player of the year candidate for most of the game. Hopefully this game at least lays the foundation for what the Bearcats are going to face in more hostile environments against significantly more talented teams in the Big XII.

I hope that Wes and the scheduling coordinators find a similar game every year, early in the year, where they go to a lesser known but talented D1 school, especially in a talent rich area like DC or NY etc where the opponent is overly passionate about the opportunity to play a "UC" type school. In today's portal version of CBB any exposure is good exposure and this type of lesson is extra valuable if you can get it and escape with the win like UC did.

But it kills our computer rankings.

In order to be a Q2 opponent in the NET rankings, an away game must be against an opponent ranked between 76-135.

Since they started using NET in 2019, the best MEAC school was Norfolk State at 169 in 2021-22.

It doesn't kill our computers rankings. We'll be fine. We're going to have to many q1/q2 games starting next Saturday through the end of the year.

It's high risk, low reward when you look at it in terms of NCAA tourney selection. Don't do it.

(11-30-2023 02:54 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  It's high risk, low reward when you look at it in terms of NCAA tourney selection. Don't do it.

I am willing to bet pretty much anything that win or lose against Howard or any other OOC quote unquote "teaching" game will not have a significant impact on whether this or most any other Big XII Bearcats team makes the tourney. If one game against a NET or Kenpom or whatever 150+ team hurts us in easily the most difficult conference in the country, I guarantee that some other conference based WTF game was a bigger issue. This a'int the AAC anymore, they actually have some leeway.

(11-30-2023 03:51 PM)Cal1362 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 02:54 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  It's high risk, low reward when you look at it in terms of NCAA tourney selection. Don't do it.

I am willing to bet pretty much anything that win or lose against Howard or any other OOC quote unquote "teaching" game will not have a significant impact on whether this or most any other Big XII Bearcats team makes the tourney. If one game against a NET or Kenpom or whatever 150+ team hurts us in easily the most difficult conference in the country, I guarantee that some other conference based WTF game was a bigger issue. This a'int the AAC anymore, they actually have some leeway.

That's fair, but you never know what tips the scale if you're a bubble team.

Wonder if it was a favor to Jizzle (or a request). His brother plays football for Howard and his father was in attendance.

(11-30-2023 09:58 PM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  Wonder if it was a favor to Jizzle (or a request). His brother plays football for Howard and his father was in attendance.

It was pretty widely reported that our OOC cash was tapped with the amount of buy games we put on the schedule.

(12-01-2023 12:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:58 PM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  Wonder if it was a favor to Jizzle (or a request). His brother plays football for Howard and his father was in attendance.

It was pretty widely reported that our OOC cash was tapped with the amount of buy games we put on the schedule.

Is that also why Dayton became a "neutral court" game?

(12-01-2023 11:16 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 12:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:58 PM)Dont tase me bro Wrote:  Wonder if it was a favor to Jizzle (or a request). His brother plays football for Howard and his father was in attendance.

It was pretty widely reported that our OOC cash was tapped with the amount of buy games we put on the schedule.

Is that also why Dayton became a "neutral court" game?

On the BCJ Podcast, Cunningham said that Dayton game at Heritage had something to do with NIL that he couldn't talk about. It's sponsored by Altafiber and Caresource, so my guess is they are writing a big check to both schools NIL pot.