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I recently saw Kingsley mentioned as a good NFL offensive coordinator candidate.

Probably a better idea than as a college head coach.

(11-28-2023 08:28 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Houston apparently looking at Willie Fritz among a couple retreads like Kingsbury.

Not saying it ***couldn't*** happen, but I'd be surprised if it did.

Most seem to think that Fritz may be looking to have a longer stay at Tulane that might be the "last" stop in his coaching journey. People connected to the Tulane situation seem to think that Fritz may want to "retire" from Tulane in a similar way that Frank Solich finished his tenure at Ohio.

He's got a pretty good thing going at Tulane...He's established himself as a winning coach, Tulane has the resources to keep him, and they seem to have committed to competing in football...finally.

(11-28-2023 11:30 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 08:28 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Houston apparently looking at Willie Fritz among a couple retreads like Kingsbury.

Not saying it ***couldn't*** happen, but I'd be surprised if it did.

Most seem to think that Fritz may be looking to have a longer stay at Tulane that might be the "last" stop in his coaching journey. People connected to the Tulane situation seem to think that Fritz may want to "retire" from Tulane in a similar way that Frank Solich finished his tenure at Ohio.

He's got a pretty good thing going at Tulane...He's established himself as a winning coach, Tulane has the resources to keep him, and they seem to have committed to competing in football...finally.

Yep, he's done an amazing job at Tulane, especially in view of a small fanbase with little interest in football in recent decades until he turned it around. I salute him for staying if he chooses to. Tulane accomplished something UC fans are still waiting for: a major bowl win in the Cotton last season against USC.

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

i have a lot of gamble in me and i would bet the house and car that they are likely done. Even moving to 12 team playoffs, the committee isn't going to be in the business of rewarding more g5 teams, and given how biased the polls are to p5 teams (not necessarily college rankings), g5s don't really stand a chance.

(11-28-2023 01:20 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

i have a lot of gamble in me and i would bet the house and car that they are likely done. Even moving to 12 team playoffs, the committee isn't going to be in the business of rewarding more g5 teams, and given how biased the polls are to p5 teams (not necessarily college rankings), g5s don't really stand a chance.

Yeah, I think Boise is back to being a mid-conference team with a year in there where they may win 9-10 games. They definitely took full advantage of their time in the sun though.

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

People say the same thing about Cincinnati...

Boise has all the same chances that we do. Probably, once the season is over and the dust settles a bit, the "Pac 12" ends up merging in some fashion with some/all of the Mountain West teams, keeping the "PAC [X]" moniker. That means an upgrade for the MW programs...including Boise State.

If BSU gets the right Coach and staff in there and can capitalize on the "Transfer Portal" like they did with the JUCO/"Partial Qualifiers" in days past, they'll get some love. And if the rebuilt MW/PAC can get/keep one of the better PAC12 bowls on board, then they'll get some attention as well.

Not too long ago, many of us on this board were proclaiming the permanent decline of Louisville as "just another fish in the big pond" of the ACC. They're on people's radar again after this season...

(11-28-2023 01:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

People say the same thing about Cincinnati...

Boise has all the same chances that we do. Probably, once the season is over and the dust settles a bit, the "Pac 12" ends up merging in some fashion with some/all of the Mountain West teams, keeping the "PAC [X]" moniker. That means an upgrade for the MW programs...including Boise State.

If BSU gets the right Coach and staff in there and can capitalize on the "Transfer Portal" like they did with the JUCO/"Partial Qualifiers" in days past, they'll get some love. And if the rebuilt MW/PAC can get/keep one of the better PAC12 bowls on board, then they'll get some attention as well.

Not too long ago, many of us on this board were proclaiming the permanent decline of Louisville as "just another fish in the big pond" of the ACC. They're on people's radar again after this season...

Be prepared for the absolute public relations destruction of the new Pac X. You will witness a propaganda war unlike anything we've seen since the old Big East. The haves will look at the extra mouths to feed and destroy them.

(11-28-2023 01:50 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

People say the same thing about Cincinnati...

Boise has all the same chances that we do. Probably, once the season is over and the dust settles a bit, the "Pac 12" ends up merging in some fashion with some/all of the Mountain West teams, keeping the "PAC [X]" moniker. That means an upgrade for the MW programs...including Boise State.

If BSU gets the right Coach and staff in there and can capitalize on the "Transfer Portal" like they did with the JUCO/"Partial Qualifiers" in days past, they'll get some love. And if the rebuilt MW/PAC can get/keep one of the better PAC12 bowls on board, then they'll get some attention as well.

Not too long ago, many of us on this board were proclaiming the permanent decline of Louisville as "just another fish in the big pond" of the ACC. They're on people's radar again after this season...

Be prepared for the absolute public relations destruction of the new Pac X. You will witness a propaganda war unlike anything we've seen since the old Big East. The haves will look at the extra mouths to feed and destroy them.

I mean, the old Big East still had some power-ish products and highly ranked teams in both major sports. The Pac 12/MWC whatever you want to call it has neither. Big East at least had an argument, this new pacific conference doesn't have the ammo to fight a super soaker battle.

Bobby Petrino returning to the scene of the crime, reportedly becoming Arkansas' new OC under embattled HC Sam Pittman

(11-28-2023 01:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

People say the same thing about Cincinnati...

Boise has all the same chances that we do. Probably, once the season is over and the dust settles a bit, the "Pac 12" ends up merging in some fashion with some/all of the Mountain West teams, keeping the "PAC [X]" moniker. That means an upgrade for the MW programs...including Boise State.

If BSU gets the right Coach and staff in there and can capitalize on the "Transfer Portal" like they did with the JUCO/"Partial Qualifiers" in days past, they'll get some love. And if the rebuilt MW/PAC can get/keep one of the better PAC12 bowls on board, then they'll get some attention as well.

Not too long ago, many of us on this board were proclaiming the permanent decline of Louisville as "just another fish in the big pond" of the ACC. They're on people's radar again after this season...

People may have been saying the same thing about Cincy but the situations are clearly different. We have a strong recruiting base whereas Boise has to import almost all of its talent. Also, the transfer portal and juco/partial qualifier routes are different. Some conferences had provisions that limited partial qualifiers from enrolling, which increased the talent pool for school's like Boise. i don't hear about those same restrictions when it comes to the transfer portal. imo, that means that the talent that Boise is getting is not on the same caliber as it was during its glory days. Not only that, but talent can transfer out of Boise way more easily. Non-zero that they manage to elevate themselves but i feel that so many things would have to go right that is exponentially more difficult.

(11-28-2023 02:35 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:50 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:36 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 01:09 PM)Fubar2 Wrote:  

(11-27-2023 10:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

One has to wonder if Boise will ever be relevant again.

People say the same thing about Cincinnati...

Boise has all the same chances that we do. Probably, once the season is over and the dust settles a bit, the "Pac 12" ends up merging in some fashion with some/all of the Mountain West teams, keeping the "PAC [X]" moniker. That means an upgrade for the MW programs...including Boise State.

If BSU gets the right Coach and staff in there and can capitalize on the "Transfer Portal" like they did with the JUCO/"Partial Qualifiers" in days past, they'll get some love. And if the rebuilt MW/PAC can get/keep one of the better PAC12 bowls on board, then they'll get some attention as well.

Not too long ago, many of us on this board were proclaiming the permanent decline of Louisville as "just another fish in the big pond" of the ACC. They're on people's radar again after this season...

Be prepared for the absolute public relations destruction of the new Pac X. You will witness a propaganda war unlike anything we've seen since the old Big East. The haves will look at the extra mouths to feed and destroy them.

I mean, the old Big East still had some power-ish products and highly ranked teams in both major sports. The Pac 12/MWC whatever you want to call it has neither. Big East at least had an argument, this new pacific conference doesn't have the ammo to fight a super soaker battle.

I see where you're coming from but to play devil's advocate, if the Pac/MWC keeps the P5 connections it will also have a great headstart on west coast talent. Maybe not the elite of the elite talent but that 2nd and 3rd level group that may want to stay closer to home. Just like the old Big East, it will be easier, theoretically, to win a PAC/MWC and get a bid to the 12 team playoff than it is to win the ACC or Big 12 with established P5 teams there... from there it's just a matter of an upset or even 2 to be back in the Cinderella conversation from year to year similar to what UC did under Fickell. Of course it will also be tougher to maintain that from year to year due to the portal unless you have a coaching staff great at developing mid-level talent.

(11-28-2023 03:51 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Bobby Petrino returning to the scene of the crime, reportedly becoming Arkansas' new OC under embattled HC Sam Pittman

I may have mentioned here, but Arkansas' OC (and QB coach) to start the season was Dan Enos who was QB coach at UC for 2 seasons as many probably recall.

There are going to be many good castoffs to be picked up (coaches and players) from Colorado before all is said and done.

Petrino back at Arkansas cracks me up. Arkansas fired him for violating employment standards by hiring his girlfriend, deceiving his bosses and engaging negatively affecting the "reputation" of the school.

Welcome home Bobby.

I'm not seeing the Risk/Reward value here.

I assume Bobby's contract includes prohibitions for young female assistants and riding motorcycles?

(11-29-2023 01:29 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  I'm not seeing the Risk/Reward value here.

I mean, most people know Sam Pittman is getting fired next year if he doesn't win probably 8+ games, so it probably wasn't a huge pool of interested candidates.

IU hires Curt Gignetti from James Madison.