"monitoring the situation"...hahah..ouch

that quote will live on

(11-02-2023 02:09 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  "monitoring the situation"...hahah..ouch

that quote will live on

At least it all seemed to work out in the end....but yeah, that had to be a painful 10 years.

(11-02-2023 03:00 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(11-02-2023 02:09 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  "monitoring the situation"...hahah..ouch

that quote will live on

At least it all seemed to work out in the end....but yeah, that had to be a painful 10 years.

Yes and no, it was a fun stretch. I'm almost glad we waited. 2015-2021 the Dukes were a Top 5 FCS program almost every year, won the championship in 2016 ending NDSU's 5 year run, and finished runner up two times after that.

And continues tonight from the ESPN communtators during the Troy USA game. Glad ESPN is fighting for us.

It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams. If they open the waiver box they just killed the rule. You can't do it for one and not for KSU next year who could possibly win CUSA regular season.

(11-03-2023 10:52 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams.

I think JCGSU is right. As long as they have 5-7 teams available they will be prioritized with their APR as pecking order.

Right now the forecast is all over the place but should some what become clear as we head down the final stretch.

(11-03-2023 11:01 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:52 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams.

I think JCGSU is right. As long as they have 5-7 teams available they will be prioritized with their APR as pecking order.

Right now the forecast is all over the place but should some what become clear as we head down the final stretch.

5-7 teams come after transitioning teams in the ordering rules

(11-03-2023 11:29 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 11:01 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:52 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams.

I think JCGSU is right. As long as they have 5-7 teams available they will be prioritized with their APR as pecking order.

Right now the forecast is all over the place but should some what become clear as we head down the final stretch.

5-7 teams come after transitioning teams in the ordering rules

My bad i stand corrected. I guess as long as a 6 win team is available anywhere they get priority over transitioning team and not the 5-7 teams even if their conf has affiliation with the bowl.

1. Teams with six wins that includes a win against a FCS team with limited or no scholarships
2. 6-7 teams because of conference title games or The Hawaii Exemption
3. Teams in their second season of FBS transition
4. 5-7 teams in order or APR

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Since the NY6 is likely out of the picture, this would be a great way to keep up the conversation of, "Hey, JMU might have actually been the best G5, it's a shame they didn't get a shot."

Of course, I'm hoping the Dukes' resume takes a hit this weekend.

(11-03-2023 10:52 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams. If they open the waiver box they just killed the rule. You can't do it for one and not for KSU next year who could possibly win CUSA regular season.

The obvious difference the NCAA refuses to acknowledge is that JMU played a full FBS & FBS conference schedule in year 1 (and went 8-3 at that). Sam only played 9 games total in their first transition year, and their only FBS opponent was a paycheck game at TAMU. Kenny’s only playing 9 this year and their only FBS game is vs. Sam (and they still only have 2 wins).

JMU should be allowed to be treated differently than the other 2 because their process has been completely different.

(11-03-2023 11:29 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 11:01 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:52 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams.

I think JCGSU is right. As long as they have 5-7 teams available they will be prioritized with their APR as pecking order.

Right now the forecast is all over the place but should some what become clear as we head down the final stretch.

5-7 teams come after transitioning teams in the ordering rules

It's also only 82 slots.

Not directed at anyone quoted, but I do chuckle at all the complaints about JMU fans "whining" while some many are ignorant on the topic (just bowl eligibility, much less the transition and waiver process).

(11-02-2023 03:00 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(11-02-2023 02:09 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  "monitoring the situation"...hahah..ouch

that quote will live on

At least it all seemed to work out in the end....but yeah, that had to be a painful 10 years.

I bet not as painful as watching ODU struggle as an FBS program over that same time period.

(11-03-2023 02:04 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:52 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(11-03-2023 08:31 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  It's an absolute crime if JMU isn't given a bowl waiver this year.

They'll be in a bowl. There won't be enough teams eligible to fill 84 slots. I hope they geet someone from a P5 and kick their butt.

Nope, they will go to 5-7 teams first then it is based on academic rankings of the teams. If they open the waiver box they just killed the rule. You can't do it for one and not for KSU next year who could possibly win CUSA regular season.

The obvious difference the NCAA refuses to acknowledge is that JMU played a full FBS & FBS conference schedule in year 1 (and went 8-3 at that). Sam only played 9 games total in their first transition year, and it was a paycheck game at TAMU. Kenny’s only playing 9 this year and their only FBS game is vs. Sam (and they still only have 2 wins).

JMU should be allowed to be treated differently than the other 2 because their process has been completely different.

Exactly, and the main gripe with the denial was that they gave no explanation other than they wanted to “allow for a uniform experience for all reclassifying institutions”. In essence they said no to JMU because they didn’t want to tell them yes while telling SHSU and Jax State no, but their situations are vastly different.