(10-23-2023 01:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  My point exactly. IPFs are not what most would consider to be luxuries in 2023. I remember back int he '90s when the super powers all started building them. But even some high schools in Texas have them now. Being able to practice whenever you like regardless of weather and lighting conditions is pretty standard in today's college football world. Many FCS programs have had them for quite some time.

And yes, as Liberty alum I am self-aware enough to recognize that we have resources that others do not possess. We have separate indoor facilities for nearly every sport in addition to football. I recognize that is not standard practice for most G5s. A decade ago, scoring an IPF for G5/Upper Tier FCS program was all the rage. Glad to see the regents stepping up for WKU. They certainly have earned it.

I have Not done the research but would say G5's with a TRUE IPF are less than 40%.

WHO in the current CUSA has one? Liberty, WKU (coming soon), who else??

(10-23-2023 05:02 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(10-23-2023 01:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  My point exactly. IPFs are not what most would consider to be luxuries in 2023. I remember back int he '90s when the super powers all started building them. But even some high schools in Texas have them now. Being able to practice whenever you like regardless of weather and lighting conditions is pretty standard in today's college football world. Many FCS programs have had them for quite some time.

And yes, as Liberty alum I am self-aware enough to recognize that we have resources that others do not possess. We have separate indoor facilities for nearly every sport in addition to football. I recognize that is not standard practice for most G5s. A decade ago, scoring an IPF for G5/Upper Tier FCS program was all the rage. Glad to see the regents stepping up for WKU. They certainly have earned it.

I have Not done the research but would say G5's with a TRUE IPF are less than 40%.

WHO in the current CUSA has one? Liberty, WKU (coming soon), who else??

None that come to mind.

It is more common in other G5 leagues though. I think many SBC, MAC, MWC, and AAC programs have IPFs.

(10-23-2023 06:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(10-23-2023 05:02 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(10-23-2023 01:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  My point exactly. IPFs are not what most would consider to be luxuries in 2023. I remember back int he '90s when the super powers all started building them. But even some high schools in Texas have them now. Being able to practice whenever you like regardless of weather and lighting conditions is pretty standard in today's college football world. Many FCS programs have had them for quite some time.

And yes, as Liberty alum I am self-aware enough to recognize that we have resources that others do not possess. We have separate indoor facilities for nearly every sport in addition to football. I recognize that is not standard practice for most G5s. A decade ago, scoring an IPF for G5/Upper Tier FCS program was all the rage. Glad to see the regents stepping up for WKU. They certainly have earned it.

I have Not done the research but would say G5's with a TRUE IPF are less than 40%.

WHO in the current CUSA has one? Liberty, WKU (coming soon), who else??

None that come to mind.

It is more common in other G5 leagues though. I think many SBC, MAC, MWC, and AAC programs have IPFs.

Yes, every school in the MAC has a brick and mortar IPF with the exception of EMU, which has an inflatable bubble.

(10-23-2023 07:19 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  

(10-23-2023 06:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(10-23-2023 05:02 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(10-23-2023 01:55 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  My point exactly. IPFs are not what most would consider to be luxuries in 2023. I remember back int he '90s when the super powers all started building them. But even some high schools in Texas have them now. Being able to practice whenever you like regardless of weather and lighting conditions is pretty standard in today's college football world. Many FCS programs have had them for quite some time.

And yes, as Liberty alum I am self-aware enough to recognize that we have resources that others do not possess. We have separate indoor facilities for nearly every sport in addition to football. I recognize that is not standard practice for most G5s. A decade ago, scoring an IPF for G5/Upper Tier FCS program was all the rage. Glad to see the regents stepping up for WKU. They certainly have earned it.

I have Not done the research but would say G5's with a TRUE IPF are less than 40%.

WHO in the current CUSA has one? Liberty, WKU (coming soon), who else??

None that come to mind.

It is more common in other G5 leagues though. I think many SBC, MAC, MWC, and AAC programs have IPFs.

Yes, every school in the MAC has a bricks and mortar IPF with the exception of EMU, which has an inflatable bubble.

Yep. It makes sense, given the weather in the upper Midwest in late Fall. I imagine some in the MWC have an IPF as well for the same reason.

Researching G5 IPF's. Data tomorrow or late tonight.

My High School has had an IPF since early 2000s

We’ve got plans to build one. Our SAPC that’s being built is phase 1 of Build Blue. They are working on funding for phase 2 now (Murphy Center upgrades). The IPF is phase 3.

Will believe it when I see it.

I have a rendering on my phone that's been there since 2013 or earlier.

G5 IPFs.*

28 of 64 schools-- 44%

CUSA- 2 of 10 (Liberty, WKU-breaks ground next month)

MAC-- 11 of 12

AAC-- 3 of 13

MW-- 5 of 12

SBC-- 5 of 14

G5 Indies-- 2 of 3

Notes:

This is very close to accurate-- but may Not be perfect.

*Qualifications--my research--my rules

NO Bubbles.
NO Open Air practice facilities.
Must be 70 yards or Larger.
Proposed or those awaiting funding not included.

(10-24-2023 02:06 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  G5 IPFs.*

28 of 64 schools-- 44%

CUSA- 2 of 10 (Liberty, WKU-breaks ground next month)

MAC-- 11 of 12

AAC-- 3 of 13

MW-- 5 of 12

SBC-- 5 of 14

G5 Indies-- 2 of 3

Notes:

This is very close to accurate-- but may Not be perfect.

*Qualifications--my research--my rules

NO Bubbles.
NO Open Air practice facilities.
Must be 70 yards or Larger.
Proposed or those awaiting funding not included.

Were the schools skewed North to South? Northern teams having IBF and Southern less likely to have one? I know UAB has a covered which would not be included.

Auburn had a bubble for years but I believe theyve upgrade to a brick and mortar, so even P2s in the south would have been left out recently.

(10-24-2023 02:06 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  G5 IPFs.*

28 of 64 schools-- 44%

CUSA- 2 of 10 (Liberty, WKU-breaks ground next month)

MAC-- 11 of 12

AAC-- 3 of 13

MW-- 5 of 12

SBC-- 5 of 14

G5 Indies-- 2 of 3

Notes:

This is very close to accurate-- but may Not be perfect.

*Qualifications--my research--my rules

NO Bubbles.
NO Open Air practice facilities.
Must be 70 yards or Larger.
Proposed or those awaiting funding not included.

How can this be true? We were told that it was assumed "that all existing FBS members have it as a basic feature".

(10-24-2023 02:06 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  G5 IPFs.*

28 of 64 schools-- 44%

CUSA- 2 of 10 (Liberty, WKU-breaks ground next month)

MAC-- 11 of 12

AAC-- 3 of 13

MW-- 5 of 12

SBC-- 5 of 14

G5 Indies-- 2 of 3

Notes:

This is very close to accurate-- but may Not be perfect.

*Qualifications--my research--my rules

NO Bubbles.
NO Open Air practice facilities.
Must be 70 yards or Larger.
Proposed or those awaiting funding not included.

ECU is close to getting one, MT has it in their plans.
JMU is very small (40-50yds?)--but I'm sure it is in the planning stage.

Weather is a Big factor. Example SDSU does Not have one--with perfect weather--no need.

Some schools have chosen to spend their limited money on other athletic projects.

JSU's planned IPF is (at least loosely) based on UAB's. So if UAB's open-air facility doesn't count, JSU's planned facility won't count, even if/when it comes to fruition. The stadium renovations are still the top priority, though. Our north stands are awful at the moment.

We do have a band practice facility already, though. When it's not being used by the band, the women's soccer team and others have used it when the weather gets dicey. (It's not covered, but it's turf and drains better than the soccer team's regular grass practice field.)

Will upgrades to facilites include a comptent coaching staff as well? Crazy to me the Bengals practiced outside below busy Interstate for years and still do but finally getting indoor IPF.

(10-25-2023 07:57 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Will upgrades to facilites include a comptent coaching staff as well?

Normally the commitment to facilities comes the demand to win, so at some point its win or be gone.

(10-25-2023 07:59 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(10-25-2023 07:57 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Will upgrades to facilites include a comptent coaching staff as well?

Normally the commitment to facilities comes the demand to win, so at some point its win or be gone.

At what point is that for MT ?

M'boro should have a parade when it happens. Have another parade when the virus President McAphee retires. I know our mayor will be happy to have him gone.

(10-25-2023 07:59 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(10-25-2023 07:57 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Will upgrades to facilites include a comptent coaching staff as well?

Normally the commitment to facilities comes the demand to win, so at some point its win or be gone.

Western should be way past that point....

name me another G5 school that fired a coach after 2 seasons that had zero trouble on or off the field? Plus went to a bowl game one of the two years and 3 wins the next

Most schools fanbase would be happy with 3 out of 4 years with 9 wins in each including 3 bowl wins. The 4th losing season year was COVID and honestly that year should be stricken from the record books because some schools refused to play with players out and others used 3rd and 4th position players to fill spots.

Most likely will get to 7 but probably 8 wins this season

The lack of winning seasons is not the problem. The fact those 9 win seasons should have been 11 wins at the least with at least one championship and possibly two is the problem.

Most fans were hoping for a 10 win season so some team that was OK winning 8 or more games and no championships would take this coach. But Western fans are stuck with a underachieving coach....

could be worse could be stuck with 6 win Rick Stockstill

I don't believe Western will ever accept that so maybe NMST and SHSU can make this coach a 6-6 and get fired next season

Not saying we will always win but our fans will be the same type fans.

UTEP has a practice football field, Glory Field, with artificial turf, and a 2 story basketball practice facility allowing mbb and wbb to practice at the same time. An ipf for football isn't mentioned by the admin but for recruiting reasons, probably should be.

(10-27-2023 09:15 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  UTEP has a practice football field, Glory Field, with artificial turf, and a 2 story basketball practice facility allowing mbb and wbb to practice at the same time. An ipf for football isn't mentioned by the admin but for recruiting reasons, probably should be.

You guys could probably get by with just a covered field right? Something to block out the sun more than protect from the cold/elements.