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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
Troy, obviously, controls its destiny. But so do the Cajuns. Both of Louisiana's losses were to East Division teams. If the Cajuns win out, they go to (Statesboro??)
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

Might be because it's a rivalry game on a short week. We have a few extra days to plan for Louisiana. Just guessing though.
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

Might be because it's a rivalry game on a short week. We have a few extra days to plan for Louisiana. Just guessing though.

South had five turnovers, and outgained the Cajuns by by a lot. A turnover free game from the jaguars will be very hard to beat. The Cajuns are more of the blueprint on what Troy likes to see: great offense, but not so great defense. Easier for Troy to control the game. It's harder when a team is balanced like South Alabama, or has a great defense like JMU.
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
(10-30-2023 10:38 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

Might be because it's a rivalry game on a short week. We have a few extra days to plan for Louisiana. Just guessing though.

South had five turnovers, and outgained the Cajuns by by a lot. A turnover free game from the jaguars will be very hard to beat. The Cajuns are more of the blueprint on what Troy likes to see: great offense, but not so great defense. Easier for Troy to control the game. It's harder when a team is balanced like South Alabama, or has a great defense like JMU.
Well, those 5 t/o’s did not happen by immaculate conception, lol. Something must’ve helped contribute to them having so many, right?
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
(10-30-2023 10:38 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

Might be because it's a rivalry game on a short week. We have a few extra days to plan for Louisiana. Just guessing though.

South had five turnovers, and outgained the Cajuns by by a lot. A turnover free game from the jaguars will be very hard to beat. The Cajuns are more of the blueprint on what Troy likes to see: great offense, but not so great defense. Easier for Troy to control the game. It's harder when a team is balanced like South Alabama, or has a great defense like JMU.

No. South didn't have five turnovers. the Cajuns had five takeaways. There's a difference. When you abuse the quarterback like the Cajuns did (five sacks, three forced fumbles and two interceptions) it would be a mistake to suggest the Cajuns can't play defense. Give up yards....sure. South scored 14 points.
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
(10-30-2023 10:47 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 10:38 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

Might be because it's a rivalry game on a short week. We have a few extra days to plan for Louisiana. Just guessing though.

South had five turnovers, and outgained the Cajuns by by a lot. A turnover free game from the jaguars will be very hard to beat. The Cajuns are more of the blueprint on what Troy likes to see: great offense, but not so great defense. Easier for Troy to control the game. It's harder when a team is balanced like South Alabama, or has a great defense like JMU.

No. South didn't have five turnovers. the Cajuns had five takeaways. There's a difference. When you abuse the quarterback like the Cajuns did (five sacks, three forced fumbles and two interceptions) it would be a mistake to suggest the Cajuns can't play defense. Give up yards....sure. South scored 14 points.

On the takeaways vs turnovers, I agree. But you did give up over 500 yards despite having five takeaways. I never said you can't play defense, and I don't think the Cajun defense is bad, I just don't see them in the same league as Troy or JMU when it comes to consistently shutting down entire games. When Louisiana comes to Troy, the Trojans will not just be three yards and a cloud of dust. There will be opportunities.

What we are saying is that South will be a tougher opponent because there's no guarantee that we'll force five turnovers like the Cajuns did. They are better than what they looked like Saturday. There's also no guarantee that the Cajuns will get nearly that many from Troy. Just saying not to look at Saturday's games and make assumptions about we'll see later in the season.
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
(10-30-2023 10:46 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 10:38 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

Might be because it's a rivalry game on a short week. We have a few extra days to plan for Louisiana. Just guessing though.

South had five turnovers, and outgained the Cajuns by by a lot. A turnover free game from the jaguars will be very hard to beat. The Cajuns are more of the blueprint on what Troy likes to see: great offense, but not so great defense. Easier for Troy to control the game. It's harder when a team is balanced like South Alabama, or has a great defense like JMU.
Well, those 5 t/o’s did not happen by immaculate conception, lol. Something must’ve helped contribute to them having so many, right?

I agree that those turnovers were forced. My comment was not about the Cajuns as much as it was South Alabama. If they win the turnover battle at Troy, they will probably win. South isn't as bad as people are making it seem. The Cajuns played a great game, and Troy will have to follow suit to beat them.

Restating my comment earlier, the Cajuns played great defense where it mattered: turnovers, and keeping them out of the endzone. That said, Louisiana hasn't consistently played great defense, which is really what I'm saying. The last two weeks have been very good, and if the trend continues, it will be very hard to beat you guys.
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
Troy winning out and JMU again not being eligible is the perfect storm for us to host the SBC CG 2 years in a row. I won't overlook or rest easy though because we play in Monroe LA and that place is cursed and the Jags and Cajuns will be tough no matter what. To be honest I am *less* concerned by Southern Miss but hope we don't get to 6-1 and then blow that game looking ahead to the following week as a done deal.

EDIT: If Troy and Georgia Southern both win out they'll be both 10-2; 7-1. I wonder how the tie breaker will go. For some reason I thought Southern had 2 conference losses.
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(10-30-2023 11:36 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Troy winning out and JMU again not being eligible is the perfect storm for us to host the SBC CG 2 years in a row. I won't overlook or rest easy though because we play in Monroe LA and that place is cursed and the Jags and Cajuns will be tough no matter what. To be honest I am *less* concerned by Southern Miss but hope we don't get to 6-1 and then blow that game looking ahead to the following week as a done deal.

EDIT: If Troy and Georgia Southern both win out they'll be both 10-2; 7-1. I wonder how the tie breaker will go. For some reason I thought Southern had 2 conference losses.

If I understand the tie-breaker correctly, if neither team is ranked in the CFP (very longshot), then it would be determined by a coin flip.

1. Head-to-head - No head-to-head
2. Final CPF rankings & win the SBC final weekend
3. Composite average of selected computer rankings (Multiple teams tied & a final SBC weekend loss)
4. None of the ranked teams win on the final weekend of SBC regular season, composite average of selected computer rankings
5. No teams ranked in the latest available CFP rankings, a composite average of selected computer rankings
6. If still tied, the team with the highest winning percentage against all common SBC opponents
7. If still tied, the team with the highest overall winning percentage against FBS opponents
8. Coin toss by the commissioner
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(10-30-2023 08:24 AM)MobileBama1 Wrote:  
(10-30-2023 08:20 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-29-2023 08:47 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  I'd say Troy is the odds on favorite to win the West. They've got the other 2 contenders over the next three weeks with the tasty Oreo filling (ULM) in the middle. I think South will be the hardest W but the Cajuns aren't going to roll over and play dead.

Um, just curious why you have come up with USA being the hardest? Especially after we beat them handily, at their place, this Saturday? But you are correct in that we will most certainly are going to give them a tough game.

I'd guess because it's a rivalry game and timing of game. USA should be highly motivated after getting whooped by the Cajuns.
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I'm sure USA will be highly motivated. For what that's worth.

They are coming off a loss that pretty much knocked them out of a chance to win the West.
They are on a short week and their quarterback had to go have an MRI after the game because he could barely walk.
I"ll be surprised if Troy doesn't win this by double digits.
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(10-31-2023 09:06 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  I'm sure USA will be highly motivated. For what that's worth.

They are coming off a loss that pretty much knocked them out of a chance to win the West.
They are on a short week and their quarterback had to go have an MRI after the game because he could barely walk.
I"ll be surprised if Troy doesn't win this by double digits.

Hope so. But I wouldn't put anything past South in a rivalry game. They have been hot and cold all year, and if we catch them hot it will be a struggle to win.
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RE: Divisional Race — SBC West
It's been a fun race so far!

Louisiana Monroe, South Alabama, and Southern Miss have been eliminated from contention.

Four are still alive, but Texas State and Arkansas State would need some serious help making it to the title game. Both only have two losses, but both have lost to one loss Troy and would need Troy to drop two of their last three games, Louisiana to drop another, and for one of them to win out. Very low odds. ESPN gives either team a 0.1% chance.

Only two challengers control their own destinies: Troy and Louisiana. This match up is in two weeks and will in all likelihood determine who will represent the west in the conference championship game.
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As of this morning ESPN FPI shows Troy out in front with a HOT 96.9 "The Big Dawg" percent chance of roping in this cattle.

Cajuns, Red Wolves, and Bobcats each have to win out, and Troy has to lose two of their last three.

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Thanks to Louisiana’s blockbuster performance yesterday we are out. Not to mention Chris’s is done for the year.

Time to stack the NIL coffers to keep our younger players.
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10 football minutes away from a second consecutive SBC-West title if the score holds!
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