(10-07-2023 09:42 AM)bullet Wrote:  They were the most publicly dismissive of the Big 12.

That said, the UW president who was head of the executive board didn't know of any counter-offer and the ESPN president said it didn't happen. The source of this is once again, Canzano, who has been badly wrong about every single thing on this, including saying stuff that was obvious nonsense.

I can see Utah saying this and the rest accepting it and letting ESPN's offer lie, but that doesn't mean there was ever any counter-offer.

I agree. At the end of the day, it didn't matter if the Pac Presidents expected to end up in the high-30s or high-40s, they all wanted to go to market to get the best deal b/c that was what the B1G did. Unfortunately, they didn't look at the ratings over the past decade, and thus they didn't understand that the B1G was in a position of great strength while the Pac was, well, starting to look a whole lot like mocha-drinking Truckers.

(10-07-2023 12:40 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-07-2023 09:42 AM)bullet Wrote:  They were the most publicly dismissive of the Big 12.

That said, the UW president who was head of the executive board didn't know of any counter-offer and the ESPN president said it didn't happen. The source of this is once again, Canzano, who has been badly wrong about every single thing on this, including saying stuff that was obvious nonsense.

I can see Utah saying this and the rest accepting it and letting ESPN's offer lie, but that doesn't mean there was ever any counter-offer.

I agree. At the end of the day, it didn't matter if the Pac Presidents expected to end up in the high-30s or high-40s, they all wanted to go to market to get the best deal b/c that was what the B1G did. Unfortunately, they didn't look at the ratings over the past decade, and thus they didn't understand that the B1G was in a position of great strength while the Pac was, well, starting to look a whole lot like mocha-drinking Truckers.

They were too much in a bubble. After the failure of the Alliance, they should have understand their place in the pecking order. They were the Big 10's serfs.

There has just been a masssive shift in value in favor of big games and the Pac 12 didn't have many, let alone the Pac 10.

(10-07-2023 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-07-2023 05:18 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(10-06-2023 08:51 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  https://x.com/redditcfb/status/171042163...azfpBvJLpA

Oops.

This is a league that needed to whip up some solid but quick consulting work from a reliable independent source.

Obviously, the PAC couldn't simply trust ESPN's numbers with the valuation, because ESPN is an interested party with a history of undervaluing too-trusting conferences. The PAC got that part right. But the league also had to adjust quickly, as the loss of the LA schools was changing prospects in real time.

Presidents getting advice from professionals on their own campus is all to the good, but the league needed to solicit, and heed, solid advice from an outside consulting firm.

I remember reading the consultant Kliavcoff used was a colleague who had no experience in the area. There are plenty of experienced consultants.

Yes. The misstep here was strategic.

A great thing about working in academic leadership is that you have ready access to experts. In collegiality lies strength. PAC presidents had access to experts in their own communities and it's all to the good that they consulted them. They certainly would be ill-advised to accept ESPN numbers naïvely.

But they definitely needed to secure, as a conference, the services of an independent media-value consultant. Losing the LA schools changed a lot of figures in a hurry. Not everyone, even those who are very knowledgeable about the field, are going to have access to the revised numbers quickly enough to get these into their calculations—all in time to make strategic recommendations on an urgent timetable. You need to secure quality professional assessments from people whose thumbs are already on the pulse.

It's really up to the commissioner to recommend this. Ideally, the commissioner is someone who's already watching the pulse carefully—but however that shakes out, you get your conference the help it needs.