(10-02-2023 06:37 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: ULM did not have that many fans there. Tickets sold? Maybe.
Every school reports by tickets sold.
GS reports by scanned tickets.
Can confirm
Dang. Guess my 4 tickets didn't get counted. Thought this was gonna be one of the better games this season, so I grabbed some tickets. Unfortunately something came up the morning of and I couldn't make it down. I definitely missed a good one for Southern.
(10-02-2023 07:22 PM)Klak Wrote: Is that App "we totally fit 20,000 extra people on one hill" State talking actual attendance smack?
Okay, for the last time. We have 30k seats, not including the hill or temps. Likely 6k to 8k on the hill and 2k to 4k in the temp bleachers in the north end zone. This given you approximately 40k for these big games.
Our attendance numbers aren't exact, but its close. I've been to all of the record setting games, and I'm hear to tell you, these 8numbers aren't inflated. No doubt, next Tuesday the number reported will not reflect the number at the game, as I'm sure many of our season ticket holders will have a hard time getting to Boone on a Tuesday night. However, it should still be a legitimate 25k turnout. Not bad for a Tuesday.
Congrats on GS finally getting a good turnout last weekend. It's about time y'all sold out.
We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
I know I’m getting old, but that looks like a miserable way to spend 3-4 hours.
That close together? I agree.
I like going to games that are sell outs or near sell outs, but I'm not a big fan of schools that pack everyone in like Sardines. It ruins a lot of the experience.
(10-02-2023 07:22 PM)Klak Wrote: Is that App "we totally fit 20,000 extra people on one hill" State talking actual attendance smack?
Okay, for the last time. We have 30k seats, not including the hill or temps. Likely 6k to 8k on the hill and 2k to 4k in the temp bleachers in the north end zone. This given you approximately 40k for these big games.
Our attendance numbers aren't exact, but its close. I've been to all of the record setting games, and I'm hear to tell you, these 8numbers aren't inflated. No doubt, next Tuesday the number reported will not reflect the number at the game, as I'm sure many of our season ticket holders will have a hard time getting to Boone on a Tuesday night. However, it should still be a legitimate 25k turnout. Not bad for a Tuesday.
Congrats on GS finally getting a good turnout last weekend. It's about time y'all sold out.
We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2023 10:07 AM by biggie.)
(10-03-2023 08:06 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote: Okay, for the last time. We have 30k seats, not including the hill or temps. Likely 6k to 8k on the hill and 2k to 4k in the temp bleachers in the north end zone. This given you approximately 40k for these big games.
Our attendance numbers aren't exact, but its close. I've been to all of the record setting games, and I'm hear to tell you, these 8numbers aren't inflated. No doubt, next Tuesday the number reported will not reflect the number at the game, as I'm sure many of our season ticket holders will have a hard time getting to Boone on a Tuesday night. However, it should still be a legitimate 25k turnout. Not bad for a Tuesday.
Congrats on GS finally getting a good turnout last weekend. It's about time y'all sold out.
We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
(10-03-2023 08:24 AM)JTApps1 Wrote: We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
This is not smoke and mirrors. We are getting 40k for our biggest games. All other weekend games are drawing from 30k to 35k. Our season tickets sales are selling out and our student turnout is tremendous as our enrollment continues to grow.
The ECU game tied the UNC game from last year for attendance because the fire marshal would not allow for any more. Also we only allowed a limited allotment to both schools. If we had the space, both games would have reached 45k. We have NC State, UNCC, and SC upcoming, which will draw similar crowds.
(10-03-2023 08:53 AM)Goronic Wrote: I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
This is not smoke and mirrors. We are getting 40k for our biggest games. All other weekend games are drawing from 30k to 35k. Our season tickets sales are selling out and our student turnout is tremendous as our enrollment continues to grow.
The ECU game tied the UNC game from last year for attendance because the fire marshal would not allow for any more. Also we only allowed a limited allotment to both schools. If we had the space, both games would have reached 45k. We have NC State, UNCC, and SC upcoming, which will draw similar crowds.
(10-03-2023 09:29 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote: whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
This is not smoke and mirrors. We are getting 40k for our biggest games. All other weekend games are drawing from 30k to 35k. Our season tickets sales are selling out and our student turnout is tremendous as our enrollment continues to grow.
The ECU game tied the UNC game from last year for attendance because the fire marshal would not allow for any more. Also we only allowed a limited allotment to both schools. If we had the space, both games would have reached 45k. We have NC State, UNCC, and SC upcoming, which will draw similar crowds.
Lol! Maybe do some bots like the LA Rams. Seriously, what good does inflating attendance numbers do? Does it generate revenue or interest? Maybe if your numbers are really crappy, and you want to be deceptive about how bad your support has become. App is selling out season ticket sales, getting enormous student turnout, and has sold out every game but 1 this season. Why would we need to pad those numbers?
(10-03-2023 08:24 AM)JTApps1 Wrote: We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
They are standing at angles and there is more room where they are standing from front to back than normal seats. So you can stand 2 people in the area that only 1 would sit. And I'm sure some are standing on the seats as well (short ones). Unless those seats have change in the lower sections from when I was last in there around '09 or so when you didn't have to worry about it being too packed.
(10-02-2023 07:22 PM)Klak Wrote: Is that App "we totally fit 20,000 extra people on one hill" State talking actual attendance smack?
Okay, for the last time. We have 30k seats, not including the hill or temps. Likely 6k to 8k on the hill and 2k to 4k in the temp bleachers in the north end zone. This given you approximately 40k for these big games.
Our attendance numbers aren't exact, but its close. I've been to all of the record setting games, and I'm hear to tell you, these 8numbers aren't inflated. No doubt, next Tuesday the number reported will not reflect the number at the game, as I'm sure many of our season ticket holders will have a hard time getting to Boone on a Tuesday night. However, it should still be a legitimate 25k turnout. Not bad for a Tuesday.
Congrats on GS finally getting a good turnout last weekend. It's about time y'all sold out.
We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
I think we also have some students that come and go at different times throughout the game so we may not have 40,000 in there at any single time. Still I'd say 37-38k at one time is doable. That's just a guess on my part though.
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2023 02:04 PM by JTApps1.)
(10-02-2023 07:22 PM)Klak Wrote: Is that App "we totally fit 20,000 extra people on one hill" State talking actual attendance smack?
Okay, for the last time. We have 30k seats, not including the hill or temps. Likely 6k to 8k on the hill and 2k to 4k in the temp bleachers in the north end zone. This given you approximately 40k for these big games.
Our attendance numbers aren't exact, but its close. I've been to all of the record setting games, and I'm hear to tell you, these 8numbers aren't inflated. No doubt, next Tuesday the number reported will not reflect the number at the game, as I'm sure many of our season ticket holders will have a hard time getting to Boone on a Tuesday night. However, it should still be a legitimate 25k turnout. Not bad for a Tuesday.
Congrats on GS finally getting a good turnout last weekend. It's about time y'all sold out.
We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
We definitely need major upgrades to the non-premium seating and amenities of the stadium. I understand the need to the new tower on the east side, but the common folks need some upgrades too.
(10-03-2023 08:24 AM)JTApps1 Wrote: We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
You're giving a 2D answer to a 3D question. Sitting, your legs are in front of you, causing your height to be spread out horizontally. Unless people are floating in the air (using that space you think is equal to ground space) or sitting on each other, standing makes for a lot more room to squeeze people in than sitting.
If you're reporting scanned tickets, that's not very bright, in my opinion.
What schools should be reporting are tickets distributed. (Not tickets sold.) That enables you to count those who come in through the kids' club (if you have one) along with any comps given out. Not to mention the businesses that buy, say, ten tickets but only use two of them.
You are also allowed to count concession workers, security, etc. as part of your attendance.
(10-03-2023 02:23 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote: If you're reporting scanned tickets, that's not very bright, in my opinion.
What schools should be reporting are tickets distributed. (Not tickets sold.) That enables you to count those who come in through the kids' club (if you have one) along with any comps given out. Not to mention the businesses that buy, say, ten tickets but only use two of them.
You are also allowed to count concession workers, security, etc. as part of your attendance.
(10-02-2023 07:22 PM)Klak Wrote: Is that App "we totally fit 20,000 extra people on one hill" State talking actual attendance smack?
Okay, for the last time. We have 30k seats, not including the hill or temps. Likely 6k to 8k on the hill and 2k to 4k in the temp bleachers in the north end zone. This given you approximately 40k for these big games.
Our attendance numbers aren't exact, but its close. I've been to all of the record setting games, and I'm hear to tell you, these 8numbers aren't inflated. No doubt, next Tuesday the number reported will not reflect the number at the game, as I'm sure many of our season ticket holders will have a hard time getting to Boone on a Tuesday night. However, it should still be a legitimate 25k turnout. Not bad for a Tuesday.
Congrats on GS finally getting a good turnout last weekend. It's about time y'all sold out.
We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
No it's not, and that was my point. Shoulder to shoulder, standing close to someone in front and behind take far less room than sitting. I have been to the App State games that have 35K or 40K plus - there are a LOT of people there. I am surprised that it's only that much. Very nice problem to have, but a problem none the less.
(This post was last modified: 10-03-2023 08:12 PM by Goronic.)
(10-02-2023 06:37 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: ULM did not have that many fans there. Tickets sold? Maybe.
GS has always, if I am not mistaken, has only ever counted butts in seats. I know GaSt has gone the other route, and really not hating on it. If the ticket is sold then somebody or a business cares enough to support you. I am neutral on this. The tape don't lie though.
(10-03-2023 05:19 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote: The actual count at USM was about 8,000. The Will Hall era is failing spectacularly.
Brotha most of us have been there... I have no idea how in a world where virtually every FBS OC, DC, stud FCS and DIV II coach out there wants a shot being a FBS HC, how AD's completely crap the bed on a HC hire but our old AD did.... TWICE in a F'ing row wasting years of the one thing in sports I am fanatic about life. On top of an AD that wasted over a decade in the horrid FCS when we should have moved up and joined the belt in 2000...but all is okay now...and I am not bitter...not at all... but f. Sam Baker and Klownlien...and Summers and Lunsford for cheesing his way into a hire.
(10-03-2023 08:24 AM)JTApps1 Wrote: We don't have 30,000 seats. We list capacity at 30,000 which doesn't make sense considering we routinely go over that amount. We have around 24,000 permanent seats. The temporary bleachers added another 2,300 so roughly 26,300. I do think the 40,000 number is possible with how many students crammed themselves into their section and the hill plus having about 8 deep on the walkway on top of the hill.
I have a niece and nephew that both attend App State and they said the student section is always incredibly tight. So much so you can’t sit down.
App really really needs to expand the stadium! Also, they need more bathrooms, concessions, all of it. 40k is getting to be the norm for all App State’s home games. With how well the SBC is doing, and the football strong schools we have, I bet we could see 50k within the next 10 years.
whether they are sitting down or standing up they take up the same amount of room.
I'll admit I WISH GS could get as many people to games as you guys do. But everyone's math ain't mathing. 25K actual seats, but you think you get 40K at almost every game? 8K on a hill that is +/- 10,000 SF? That's barely 1 SF per person.
Assuming EVERY seat is taken and you get the low end of your guess on the hill of 6,000 and the middle of what you say is in the temp seats at 3,000. That's 25,000+6,000+3,000 = 34,000. That's amazing and something to be proud of and WAY more than we get. But it's also a long way away from 40,000.
It's not as bad as Gag St getting 5K and saying its 15K. But come on. Your attendance is amazing, why lie about it to make it look like more?
Standing can fit a lot more in than sitting. Assuming that they are sitting on top of each other at least.
We don't get 40k for each game. We get 40k with a popular opponent and temp bleaches in the N endzone. Those are gone the rest of the year. The students are packing the bottom student section with 1.5-2x the seats and packing the grass hill as well.
Our sell out games the rest of the year (that aren't on a Tuesday) will see 34-35k or so.
I'll give you that your feet take up less space than your butt on the ground/seat. But that same butt and those same shoulders are still taking up space when you get vertically past the feet. Unless everyone is standing at a 45 degree angle - shoulder to shoulder is still the same space regardless of sitting or standing.
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