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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-01-2023 10:41 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
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(09-29-2023 08:31 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Winning cures a lot of problems. See the Texas Rangers.

The Rangers are in a tough spot. There's so much competition for the sporting dollar in DFW, not just from the Cowboys, but he Mavs are big up there, then CFB then..um, hockey? Baseball? Soccer? Who knows? If they'd won the title a decade ago it would be different, but my cousin Deanne cursed the team when she walked by in the waning moments of game 6 in 2011 and commented "oh, we have it won now". Her son and I have never forgiven her, and we won't unless and until the Rangers finally win one. She probably said something similar at the end of game 7, but she was smart enough to do so out of our earshot.


90-71, first place, we have it won now.

No, we have a wild card spot guaranteed, but we either need to win today or need for Houston to lose for us to win the division and get the #2 seed and first round bye b/c Houston has the tiebreaker over us. Kudos to Seattle and Houston for making us work for it, but we should have clinched this thing long ago.

I'm really surprised Seattle didn't tank the game (I guess that shows how stupid the players or management really are). That would have given Texas the Division and given the LAstros the hardest path to the WS. Instead, they've basically handed them the title again. Going to be so much buzzing in Minute Maid.
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(09-29-2023 10:07 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
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(09-29-2023 08:31 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Winning cures a lot of problems. See the Texas Rangers.

True, but this also occurred in a year where the most successful baseball team of all time, which also happens to play in the nation's largest media market, had a down year.

Yeah - the Yankees, Red Sox, and Mets (all traditionally high attendance teams) had down years. Granted, the Cubs (another traditionally high attendance team that also drives a lot of road game attendance) turned it around this year until the abomination of a series in Atlanta over the past few days.

First year since 2014 that those 3 have all missed the playoffs.
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-02-2023 10:49 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 10:23 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 06:25 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 12:07 AM)jgkojak Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 08:09 PM)goofus Wrote:  MLB lost a whole generation of fans by waiting 30 years too long to implement a pitching clock. Baseball lost me in the 90's when I was screaming at the TV screen for the batter to stay in the batters box and screaming at the pitcher to just throw the damn ball. Keep the action moving.

Football has its own problems. it spends way too much time where players are standing around doing nothing. Commercial timeouts need to go away. 3 timeouts each half can go away too. The amount of time between plays can be shortened too. And they need to make this change before football starts losing fans.

What will kill pro football is over reliance on replay. There is nothing exciting when a spectacular catch is going to be reviewed to the minutia. They should not do any replays and allow 2 challenges per game for each team - the team can decide when they want a review.

Pro football is more popular than ever. I just don’t understand this thinking - people would seriously rather go back to the old days of wrong calls being made even though there are cameras showing 360 degree angles of every play? As annoying as replays are (and I get it regarding “What’s a catch or not?”), there’s nothing worse than a team getting screwed on a bad call.

Yup, everyone wants to be the archaic MLB where millions of people notice that Bryce Harper doesn't swing but Angel Holenandez still calls him out and nothing can be changed.

I bet you're just the life of every party.

Don't understand the sass here. You want calls to be wrong and negatively affect your team? Or you like Angel?
10-02-2023 12:43 PM
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-02-2023 11:05 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 10:45 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 09:26 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 08:09 PM)goofus Wrote:  MLB lost a whole generation of fans by waiting 30 years too long to implement a pitching clock. Baseball lost me in the 90's when I was screaming at the TV screen for the batter to stay in the batters box and screaming at the pitcher to just throw the damn ball. Keep the action moving.

Agreed - though I'd add that the hyperfocus on the Yankees/Red Sox as if they were the only 2 teams who existed added to that as well. It certainly turned me away from the sport. Interestingly, MLB attendance explodes when we finally get a year those two aren't in the playoff picture.

Baseball has had the massive benefit of a long time of being the summer sport with virtually no major sports competition. I know many games I've attended it's only to enjoy a summer night with friends. Very few are intently watching the game - many are there for the social aspect. Baseball has been boring for awhile and desperately needed the pitch clock to add consistent stimulation for the fans.

When I look at my interest in sports, it's something like:

1.CFB
1a. NFL
3. NBA
4. NCAAB
..
..
..
17. MLB

However, when I look at how much I've enjoyed particular games, other than watching Dirk smash the Spurs periodically in San Antonio, and that one time that Nick Van Excel went off for 15 in the 4th to stave off Mavs elimination, baseball games are tied with A&M Football at the top of the list. From minor league games in Round Rock to playoff games where I'm sitting with Cardinals relatives in Houston at Minute Maid Park in the Playoffs, to watching Nolan Ryan's next game that he pitched AFTER his 7th no-hitter, my baseball-watching experiences have all been amazing in person. It's only boring when you watch it on TV.

One of my few regrets about living in San Antonio for so long is that I never get those 4pm calls of "hey, my wife is sick and I have great seats for the Astros" calls anymore. Even though I didn't root for the team, their game-day atmosphere was just as good as the Rangers for all of the games I attended. Though those Astros games were probably a lot more fun b/c my long time Service Manager was Woody Williams' brother and he always had tickets lol.

One dynamic with baseball is the pacing that causes a lot of people to perceive it as boring during the summer (e.g. the pauses between pitches) is simultaneously what makes it a nerve-wracking roller coaster ride in the playoffs. When every pitch has so much riding on it, the pace that seems to take forever in the dog days of August turns into a complete nail-biting edge of your seat exercise in October.

Have to hand it to MLB for finally getting out of their way and fixing the game in a positive manner. The true test will be whether they can reduce the normal playoff times of 4-5 hours.
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-02-2023 12:31 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(10-01-2023 10:41 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-01-2023 04:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 11:01 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 08:31 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Winning cures a lot of problems. See the Texas Rangers.

The Rangers are in a tough spot. There's so much competition for the sporting dollar in DFW, not just from the Cowboys, but he Mavs are big up there, then CFB then..um, hockey? Baseball? Soccer? Who knows? If they'd won the title a decade ago it would be different, but my cousin Deanne cursed the team when she walked by in the waning moments of game 6 in 2011 and commented "oh, we have it won now". Her son and I have never forgiven her, and we won't unless and until the Rangers finally win one. She probably said something similar at the end of game 7, but she was smart enough to do so out of our earshot.


90-71, first place, we have it won now.

No, we have a wild card spot guaranteed, but we either need to win today or need for Houston to lose for us to win the division and get the #2 seed and first round bye b/c Houston has the tiebreaker over us. Kudos to Seattle and Houston for making us work for it, but we should have clinched this thing long ago.

I'm really surprised Seattle didn't tank the game (I guess that shows how stupid the players or management really are). That would have given Texas the Division and given the LAstros the hardest path to the WS. Instead, they've basically handed them the title again. Going to be so much buzzing in Minute Maid.

Lifelong Ranger fan here. Our team is cursed. This team has been breaking my heart for most of my life. It's even worse now that I live in Houston and the Astros have been good for the last few years.

I wish Seattle had tanked that game yesterday, but they didn't. Arizona, on the other hand, tanked their game against the Rangers. Of course if the Rangers couldn't score two runs in a game they had to have, they deserve to be on the plane from Seattle to Tampa.
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-02-2023 05:25 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 12:31 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(10-01-2023 10:41 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-01-2023 04:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 11:01 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  The Rangers are in a tough spot. There's so much competition for the sporting dollar in DFW, not just from the Cowboys, but he Mavs are big up there, then CFB then..um, hockey? Baseball? Soccer? Who knows? If they'd won the title a decade ago it would be different, but my cousin Deanne cursed the team when she walked by in the waning moments of game 6 in 2011 and commented "oh, we have it won now". Her son and I have never forgiven her, and we won't unless and until the Rangers finally win one. She probably said something similar at the end of game 7, but she was smart enough to do so out of our earshot.


90-71, first place, we have it won now.

No, we have a wild card spot guaranteed, but we either need to win today or need for Houston to lose for us to win the division and get the #2 seed and first round bye b/c Houston has the tiebreaker over us. Kudos to Seattle and Houston for making us work for it, but we should have clinched this thing long ago.

I'm really surprised Seattle didn't tank the game (I guess that shows how stupid the players or management really are). That would have given Texas the Division and given the LAstros the hardest path to the WS. Instead, they've basically handed them the title again. Going to be so much buzzing in Minute Maid.

Lifelong Ranger fan here. Our team is cursed. This team has been breaking my heart for most of my life. It's even worse now that I live in Houston and the Astros have been good for the last few years.

I wish Seattle had tanked that game yesterday, but they didn't. Arizona, on the other hand, tanked their game against the Rangers. Of course if the Rangers couldn't score two runs in a game they had to have, they deserve to be on the plane from Seattle to Tampa.

I was definitely pulling for the Rangers, tough to lose 3 of last 4. I really just figured Seattle along with the rest of the league wouldn't go out of their way to help Houston win. I know they've been bad at home this year (39-42) but they are very much like the Patriots (for a multitude of reasons) and have to be feared in the playoffs. CZR has them as the AL favorites now.
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-02-2023 10:49 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 10:23 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 06:25 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 12:07 AM)jgkojak Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 08:09 PM)goofus Wrote:  MLB lost a whole generation of fans by waiting 30 years too long to implement a pitching clock. Baseball lost me in the 90's when I was screaming at the TV screen for the batter to stay in the batters box and screaming at the pitcher to just throw the damn ball. Keep the action moving.

Football has its own problems. it spends way too much time where players are standing around doing nothing. Commercial timeouts need to go away. 3 timeouts each half can go away too. The amount of time between plays can be shortened too. And they need to make this change before football starts losing fans.

What will kill pro football is over reliance on replay. There is nothing exciting when a spectacular catch is going to be reviewed to the minutia. They should not do any replays and allow 2 challenges per game for each team - the team can decide when they want a review.

Pro football is more popular than ever. I just don’t understand this thinking - people would seriously rather go back to the old days of wrong calls being made even though there are cameras showing 360 degree angles of every play? As annoying as replays are (and I get it regarding “What’s a catch or not?”), there’s nothing worse than a team getting screwed on a bad call.

Yup, everyone wants to be the archaic MLB where millions of people notice that Bryce Harper doesn't swing but Angel Holenandez still calls him out and nothing can be changed.

I bet you're just the life of every party.

Definitely pit calling the kettle black here. You've posted almost 10,000 times in 15 months! That means by January 2025 youll have more posts than Frank has in 17 years!

I can imagine the party at your house:
"Oh where's your husband?"
"He's in the basement posting on CSNBBS. He will be up in a few hours." Real party animal there.

Anyway, heres an article on your boy, possibly uncle: https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fastbal...ing-in-mlb
10-03-2023 08:28 AM
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RE: MLB attendance is through the roof this year, lessons for CFB
(10-02-2023 05:25 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 12:31 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(10-01-2023 10:41 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-01-2023 04:13 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 11:01 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  The Rangers are in a tough spot. There's so much competition for the sporting dollar in DFW, not just from the Cowboys, but he Mavs are big up there, then CFB then..um, hockey? Baseball? Soccer? Who knows? If they'd won the title a decade ago it would be different, but my cousin Deanne cursed the team when she walked by in the waning moments of game 6 in 2011 and commented "oh, we have it won now". Her son and I have never forgiven her, and we won't unless and until the Rangers finally win one. She probably said something similar at the end of game 7, but she was smart enough to do so out of our earshot.


90-71, first place, we have it won now.

No, we have a wild card spot guaranteed, but we either need to win today or need for Houston to lose for us to win the division and get the #2 seed and first round bye b/c Houston has the tiebreaker over us. Kudos to Seattle and Houston for making us work for it, but we should have clinched this thing long ago.

I'm really surprised Seattle didn't tank the game (I guess that shows how stupid the players or management really are). That would have given Texas the Division and given the LAstros the hardest path to the WS. Instead, they've basically handed them the title again. Going to be so much buzzing in Minute Maid.

Lifelong Ranger fan here. Our team is cursed. This team has been breaking my heart for most of my life. It's even worse now that I live in Houston and the Astros have been good for the last few years.

I wish Seattle had tanked that game yesterday, but they didn't. Arizona, on the other hand, tanked their game against the Rangers. Of course if the Rangers couldn't score two runs in a game they had to have, they deserve to be on the plane from Seattle to Tampa.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it's all due to the Curse of my Cousin Deanne. I'm about to text her a few choice words.
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(10-02-2023 12:43 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 10:49 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(10-02-2023 10:23 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 06:25 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(09-29-2023 12:07 AM)jgkojak Wrote:  What will kill pro football is over reliance on replay. There is nothing exciting when a spectacular catch is going to be reviewed to the minutia. They should not do any replays and allow 2 challenges per game for each team - the team can decide when they want a review.

Pro football is more popular than ever. I just don’t understand this thinking - people would seriously rather go back to the old days of wrong calls being made even though there are cameras showing 360 degree angles of every play? As annoying as replays are (and I get it regarding “What’s a catch or not?”), there’s nothing worse than a team getting screwed on a bad call.

Yup, everyone wants to be the archaic MLB where millions of people notice that Bryce Harper doesn't swing but Angel Holenandez still calls him out and nothing can be changed.

I bet you're just the life of every party.

Don't understand the sass here. You want calls to be wrong and negatively affect your team? Or you like Angel?

I was referencing your constant negativity, not really that one specific post. As you replied to it twice, both in very negative ways, you have just helped to prove my point.
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