Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

(09-24-2023 02:49 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

Nice try as it will be top 6 conference champs. Any change has to be unanimous and it won’t be.

(09-24-2023 04:19 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-24-2023 02:49 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

Nice try as it will be top 6 conference champs. Any change has to be unanimous and it won’t be.

There’s no way that after the liquidation of the PAC 12, that there will be 6 autobids. The G5 will take 5 and be happy for it because the alternative is getting cut off completely.

There might well be 6 for the next two years.

Seems unlikely beyond that.

(09-24-2023 04:32 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(09-24-2023 04:19 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-24-2023 02:49 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

Nice try as it will be top 6 conference champs. Any change has to be unanimous and it won’t be.

There’s no way that after the liquidation of the PAC 12, that there will be 6 autobids. The G5 will take 5 and be happy for it because the alternative is getting cut off completely.

There’s no way that the P4 can make any changes for 24-25 without unanimous consent. Much like the ACC GoR, it can be altered, but everyone needs to win for it to happen.

Starting in 2026? Yeah, 5 is the most auto bids, and it’s possible that we go to 0 or 1. If it’s 1, then the top g5 champ of course, but 0 is definitely a possibility. It’s possible that the g5 support changes for 24-25 in order to guarantee their auotobid for 26.

(09-24-2023 02:49 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

So basically the same boring teams that are in it every year?

(09-25-2023 11:38 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(09-24-2023 02:49 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

So basically the same boring teams that are in it every year?

What I think you mean to say is 11 teams that are going to attract lots of viewers and bring in the tv dollars that will make this set up lucrative.

(09-24-2023 04:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  There might well be 6 for the next two years.

Seems unlikely beyond that.

Agreed.

(09-25-2023 01:22 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(09-25-2023 11:38 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(09-24-2023 02:49 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Adjusting for next year’s affiliations:

Sugar Bowl Bracket
1 Georgia vs winner of: 8 USC @ 7 Washington


Fiesta Bowl Bracket
10 Utah vs winner of: 16 Wash St @ 3 Texas


Rose Bowl Bracket
2 Michigan vs winner of: 9 Oregon @ 6 Penn St


Orange Bowl Bracket
5 Florida St vs winner of: 11 Notre Dame @ 4 Ohio St

The Future Big 10 dominates the at large berths, grabbing 5 of 7.

So basically the same boring teams that are in it every year?

What I think you mean to say is 11 teams that are going to attract lots of viewers and bring in the tv dollars that will make this set up lucrative.

Viewership is trending down.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...s-history/

Not my thread, but updating after last weekend's results and yesterday's AP poll.

QF's
1. Georgia (SEC champ) vs 8. Washington (#7) or 9. Oregon (#8)
2. Michigan (Big Ten champ) vs 7. Penn State (#6) or 10. USC (#9)
3. FSU (#5, ACC champ) vs 6. Ohio State (#4) or 11. Notre Dame (#10) or 11. Utah (Big 12 #18, 5th champ)
4. Washington State (#16 PAC/MWC) vs 5. Texas (#3) or 12. Utah (#18 Big 12 champ) or Fresno STate (#24 6th champ) or unranked 6th conference champ (if WSU and Fresno are in same league, which is not unlikely.

If the 6+6 format bumps not one, not two but THREE top ten ranked schools out of the playoff, that's even stronger argument for 5-7. And the beginnings of an argument -- are the ACC and Big 12 champs REALLY worthy of a bye?

(10-02-2023 07:51 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Not my thread, but updating after last weekend's results and yesterday's AP poll.

QF's
1. Georgia (SEC champ) vs 8. Washington (#7) or 9. Oregon (#8)
2. Michigan (Big Ten champ) vs 7. Penn State (#6) or 10. USC (#9)
3. FSU (#5, ACC champ) vs 6. Ohio State (#4) or 11. Notre Dame (#10) or 11. Utah (Big 12 #18, 5th champ)
4. Washington State (#16 PAC/MWC) vs 5. Texas (#3) or 12. Utah (#18 Big 12 champ) or Fresno STate (#24 6th champ) or unranked 6th conference champ (if WSU and Fresno are in same league, which is not unlikely.

If the 6+6 format bumps not one, not two but THREE top ten ranked schools out of the playoff, that's even stronger argument for 5-7. And the beginnings of an argument -- are the ACC and Big 12 champs REALLY worthy of a bye?

If the PAC 2 merges with the MWC? Washington State/Fresno State/Air Force champ will take on Marshall or Tulane.

(09-25-2023 01:57 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  Viewership is trending down.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...s-history/

Shockingly bad for football. There is just not enough turnover at the highest levels. No USC (until maybe this year???), no B1G program aside from tOSU and UM. No Cinderella BCS buster anymore with the guaranteed slot. No decent FSU team since the inaugural year. You would think if we get something like FSU/UGa/USC in the playoff with competitive games, the ratings would and should bounce back a bit. Throw Michigan in there, and hopefully the ratings start to stabilize after the freefall it's been recently.

(10-02-2023 08:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-02-2023 07:51 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Not my thread, but updating after last weekend's results and yesterday's AP poll.

QF's
1. Georgia (SEC champ) vs 8. Washington (#7) or 9. Oregon (#8)
2. Michigan (Big Ten champ) vs 7. Penn State (#6) or 10. USC (#9)
3. FSU (#5, ACC champ) vs 6. Ohio State (#4) or 11. Notre Dame (#10) or 11. Utah (Big 12 #18, 5th champ)
4. Washington State (#16 PAC/MWC) vs 5. Texas (#3) or 12. Utah (#18 Big 12 champ) or Fresno STate (#24 6th champ) or unranked 6th conference champ (if WSU and Fresno are in same league, which is not unlikely.

If the 6+6 format bumps not one, not two but THREE top ten ranked schools out of the playoff, that's even stronger argument for 5-7. And the beginnings of an argument -- are the ACC and Big 12 champs REALLY worthy of a bye?

If the PAC 2 merges with the MWC? Washington State/Fresno State/Air Force champ will take on Marshall or Tulane.

.....that's actually true. RE-seeding may be in the CFP's future if #1 Georgia is playing #8 Washington in one quarterfinal while #16 Washington State is playing an unranked G5 in another QF

Updated for current rankings. Assumptions made:

1. Based on next year's conference alignments. No speculation as to conference alignments of Washington State or Oregon State.
2. Assumes Orange and Cotton Bowls will host next year's semifinals per regular rotation.

Semifinals at Orange Bowl

(8) Oregon at (7) Washington
Winner vs. (1) Georgia at Peach Bowl

Tulane at (3) Texas
Winner vs. (18) Utah in Fiesta Bowl

Semifinals at Cotton Bowl

(24) Fresno State at (4) Ohio State
Winner vs. (5) Florida State in Sugar Bowl

(9) USC at (6) Penn State
Winner vs. (2) Michigan in Rose Bowl

Utah getting a de facto 4 seed, when they wouldn't even qualify for the CFP under a best 12 format should expose the ridiculousness of giving top 4 seeds to top 4 conference champions. But there are enough conference apologists out there that it won't happen.

It's pointless to use next year's alignment then complain about where that team is currently ranked.

(10-02-2023 07:51 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Not my thread, but updating after last weekend's results and yesterday's AP poll.

QF's
1. Georgia (SEC champ) vs 8. Washington (#7) or 9. Oregon (#8)
2. Michigan (Big Ten champ) vs 7. Penn State (#6) or 10. USC (#9)
3. FSU (#5, ACC champ) vs 6. Ohio State (#4) or 11. Notre Dame (#10) or 11. Utah (Big 12 #18, 5th champ)
4. Washington State (#16 PAC/MWC) vs 5. Texas (#3) or 12. Utah (#18 Big 12 champ) or Fresno STate (#24 6th champ) or unranked 6th conference champ (if WSU and Fresno are in same league, which is not unlikely.

If the 6+6 format bumps not one, not two but THREE top ten ranked schools out of the playoff, that's even stronger argument for 5-7. And the beginnings of an argument -- are the ACC and Big 12 champs REALLY worthy of a bye?

Ranking teams after 4 or 5 games is worthless. The concern shouldn’t be whether Utah or the B12 merits the 6th conference champ bid…it should why does Michigan deserve the #2 ranking?

Once Michigan and other brands have played a few stronger teams, then the CFP modeling can result in serious arguments.