Pete Thamel of ESPN reports that Texas State and AAC schools in Texas are potential targets of the Pac-4 if they choose to rebuild the conference.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-additions

If it were just Washington St. and Oregon St. I could see how TXST being near Austin and their large enrollment might sway them but I can’t imagine Cal & Stanford go for TXST, UTSA, or North Texas.

(08-07-2023 08:49 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Pete Thamel of ESPN reports that Texas State and AAC schools in Texas are potential targets of the Pac-4 if they choose to rebuild the conference.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-additions

Damn, the temptation to be in a “P” league with in-state schools and not in an island any longer. But seems like a huge risk. May payoff nicely or be a total disaster.

(08-07-2023 09:00 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  If it were just Washington St. and Oregon St. I could see how TXST being near Austin and their large enrollment might sway them but I can’t imagine Cal & Stanford go for TXST, UTSA, or North Texas.

This is likely in the event Stanford and Cal go to the ACC.

That headline made me literally lol.... no way that happens

Also upon reading the article the thread title is quite a stretch by OP....

There’s probably a couple thousand casual alumni that would come out of hibernation and write checks up to $5k to see conference mates Oregon St, Wazzu, SDSU and Boise come to fruition. The SBC exit fees would be paid off by tomorrow.

I think SMU and Memphis might consider rescinding their PAC applications if it was just down to OSU and Wash ST

BestWestern stretching that quite a bit considering the article doesn't mention Texas State by name.

It mentions the PAC 12 may consider adding Texas Schools from leagues like the AAC or the Sun Belt to stay afloat. We just have one Texas Scho

(08-07-2023 10:48 PM)Johnnychimpo Wrote:  There’s probably a couple thousand casual alumni that would come out of hibernation and write checks up to $5k to see conference mates Oregon St, Wazzu, SDSU and Boise come to fruition. The SBC exit fees would be paid off by tomorrow.

The exit fee is eleventy billion dollars. We had Judy McLeod write our last contracts for us.

I continue to be baffled by this hypothetical drawing power of 4 athletic programs nobody else wants.

(08-07-2023 11:26 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  I continue to be baffled by this hypothetical drawing power of 4 athletic programs nobody else wants.

For the moment, they've still got that P5 sparkle. It comes down to whether they can assemble some type of "best of G5" grouping and get a significant media deal attached.

I keep flip-flopping in my mind if its possible, and from all the reports and rumors the PAC schools are too

The AAC added UNT expecting SMU to be out the door. I could see the remaining 4 PAC schools being ok with SMU and Rice, but that’s about it.

(08-07-2023 11:36 PM)Usajags Wrote:  The AAC added UNT expecting SMU to be out the door. I could see the remaining 4 PAC schools being ok with SMU and Rice, but that’s about it.

The article suggests PAC needs to get to "over 6" (I thought the number was 8) for next year to survive. So if Cal/Stan leave, that would mean at least 4 or 5 adds. Also seems to suggest the schools need to come from AAC/SBC, and they would wait a year on MWC exit fees to be lower.

If PAC-4 stay together, then maybe 2 more would be enough? Not clear about the "over 6" threshold mentioned.

(08-07-2023 11:36 PM)Usajags Wrote:  The AAC added UNT expecting SMU to be out the door. I could see the remaining 4 PAC schools being ok with SMU and Rice, but that’s about it.

I think the desire to be in the most competitive athletic conference with the most value possible needs to outweigh academics in this dire moment for all 4 schools.

Stanford and Cal are the only schools out of the four that would let this critical academic approach continue in this insane situation they are in and let it crumble their athletic departments.

Stanford who is by far the best athletic program for decades must wake up from this ideology if they want to have a chance at continuing their success.

Teams like Boise for example must be added without any retaliation from any of the PAC 4.

So, it seems that the PAC needs to be at 6 members for next year to retain NCAA status and tourney autobids. This presumes they could get a one year waiver of the 8 member FBS conference requirement.

If PAC 4 stay together, they need at least 2.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-foot...ed-part-p5

(08-07-2023 08:49 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Pete Thamel of ESPN reports that Texas State and AAC schools in Texas are potential targets of the Pac-4 if they choose to rebuild the conference.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-additions

. . .just when you thought the rumors couldn’t be any more ridiculous . . .

Hell has a better chance of freezing over.

(08-08-2023 12:23 AM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-07-2023 11:36 PM)Usajags Wrote:  The AAC added UNT expecting SMU to be out the door. I could see the remaining 4 PAC schools being ok with SMU and Rice, but that’s about it.

I think the desire to be in the most competitive athletic conference with the most value possible needs to outweigh academics in this dire moment for all 4 schools.

Stanford and Cal are the only schools out of the four that would let this critical academic approach continue in this insane situation they are in and let it crumble their athletic departments.

Stanford who is by far the best athletic program for decades must wake up from this ideology if they want to have a chance at continuing their success.

Teams like Boise for example must be added without any retaliation from any of the PAC 4.

I agree with this. They will cut off their nose to spite their face.

(08-08-2023 12:36 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  So, it seems that the PAC needs to be at 6 members for next year to retain NCAA status and tourney autobids. This presumes they could get a one year waiver of the 8 member FBS conference requirement.

If PAC 4 stay together, they need at least 2.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-foot...ed-part-p5

They'll add SMU and Rice for now. Then next year add SDSU and (Boise) someone else.

(08-08-2023 12:36 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  So, it seems that the PAC needs to be at 6 members for next year to retain NCAA status and tourney autobids. This presumes they could get a one year waiver of the 8 member FBS conference requirement.

If PAC 4 stay together, they need at least 2.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-foot...ed-part-p5

SMU (Dallas) + Rice (Houston) + Tulane (New Orleans) would make the most sense, if the goal is to get to 6 (would put them at 7).

For 2025, add SDSU (San Diego) + Colorado State (Denver) + UNLV (Las Vegas) to get to 10.

Those are some solid markets for a TV contract.