(07-09-2023 11:56 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 10:18 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 08:36 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  No market and the academics are eh. That would be a hard pass.

There's no market in Green Bay, yet they have the most storied franchise in NFL history. I don't think you understand it. I really don't.

If there's a team that deserves to move up, it's NDSU. Where they go is anyone's guess. They belong in the FBS.

You seriously cannot bring the NFL into this discussion. The Green Bay Packers are not confined to just Green Bay, they are a national brand just like the other 31 teams. So I do understand it, markets and academics are the only thing that matters. Boise State “deserves” to be in PAC or Big 12 but they are not. Rutgers was invited to the BIG 10 over many other schools that “deserved” it. Heck in 2004, Southern Miss “deserved” to be in the Big East over South Florida but that didn’t happen. Deserves has nothing to do with anything. Markets and academics are what drives college athletics plain and simple.

The NFL has nothing to do with it other than as an example of a team that's born from a grass roots effort that made them famous. The state of Wisconsin are Packer fans.

You think the Houston Texans are a national brand? How many other teams would you like me to cite?

The Green Bay Packers are owned by the city of Green Bay Wisconsin.

Green Bay Packers, Inc. The Packers are the only publicly owned major professional sports franchise in the United States. Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2022 by 537,460 stockholders.

Green Bay Packers ownership

You really don't get it do you?

NDSU, Montana, New Mexico State, and UTEP make perfect MWC backfill. It's where they belong.

(07-10-2023 12:41 AM)Ourland Wrote:  NDSU, Montana, New Mexico State, and UTEP make perfect MWC backfill. It's where they belong.

I would agree with that.

clt says we need to look at buffalo. aau status, 1B endowment, 32k students, wings.

small regional population of 885k and tiny airport are concerns

(07-10-2023 07:11 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says we need to look at buffalo.WINGS, aau status, 1B endowment, 32k students.

small regional population of 885k and tiny airport are concerns

FIFY

...although my spidey senses tell me I may have just derailed this thread...

(07-10-2023 12:54 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-10-2023 12:41 AM)Ourland Wrote:  NDSU, Montana, New Mexico State, and UTEP make perfect MWC backfill. It's where they belong.

I would agree with that.

...if the SDSU/Fresno/UNLY/Nevada combo of some sort end up in the PAC, I could easily see these teams replenishing the MWC - although NDSU may be able to get at least one of their Dakota rivals (S.D.?) in as a 'travel package' deal... heck, the MWC may take all four Dakotas (flagships and the 'States'), although not sure if all are ready to make the move up 'en masse'...