We are at 17 sports. And with the new donation from Lumen (Centurylink) that should bring an additional $11-14 Million annually to ULM, we could up our scholarships by $1.33 Million a year.

(07-02-2023 07:57 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  We are at 17 sports. And with the new donation from Lumen (Centurylink) that should bring an additional $11-14 Million annually to ULM, we could up our scholarships by $1.33 Million a year.

The donations are to the school or to the Athletic department? If to the school can the athletic department use any of it? Many times I've seen big donations at USM, but a lot of times the Athletics department can't use it, since it's marked for education. Either way that's still massive to get that amount annually.

(06-29-2023 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 11:20 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 10:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Sponsor at least 16 sports

2. Award at least 210 scholarships reaching 6 million in Value. Schools must offer at least 90 percent of the total scholarships required by a sport

3. Reclassifying institutions would have to pay a $5 million entrance fee compared to 5K

4. Specific training requirements regarding health and safety for coaches and Athletic Trainers


Schools currently in the middle of transitioning from FCS to FBS have 2 years to comply. Existing full FBS members must be in compliance by 2027.

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2023/6/28/medi...hools.aspx

I would think most of our schools in the SBC should be safe.. USM sponsors 17.

AState would need to add a Women's sport. We are at 16 sports, but we're under the scholarship minimum since our Women's sports don't offer a ton of scholarships.

If we add softball that will be twice we added that sport too stay in the top division. In the the '70's to stay 1A we added the sport. Dropped it as soon as the regs changed.

(07-02-2023 10:08 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(07-02-2023 07:57 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  We are at 17 sports. And with the new donation from Lumen (Centurylink) that should bring an additional $11-14 Million annually to ULM, we could up our scholarships by $1.33 Million a year.

The donations are to the school or to the Athletic department? If to the school can the athletic department use any of it? Many times I've seen big donations at USM, but a lot of times the Athletics department can't use it, since it's marked for education. Either way that's still massive to get that amount annually.

The donation is Lumen’s HQ in Monroe, they donated the campus to ULM and are going to rent office space from the university. Presumably that rent money won’t be earmarked for anything in particular and could be used to up the scholarship count. See also: this thread https://csnbbs.com/thread-972232.html

I think a big reason for ULM’s low scholarship $ number is just how cheap the school is to attend. In-state students get TOPS, out of state and international students get an out of state fee waiver, and there are academic scholarships you can get if your ACT or SAT is a certain score without even needing to fill out an extra application. I was out of state so no TOPS, but with the fee waiver and the highest tier of ACT scholarship, I broke even every semester once I moved off campus. My friends from in-state ended up at a surplus every semester with their TOPS money, even while living on-campus.

Of course it could come out that ULM is well below the scholarship limit in every sport and that would be the main reason for that number being so low, but this is my theory.

I don't think any existing school is going to be in too much trouble this is obviously an attempt to keep another FCS grab by conferences hurt by realignment. CUSA is now basically one more big shift to not existing if it goes down like it did last time. It is to the point where FCS schools with mediocre or no relevance are getting picked up not like App, GS, Marshall etc which were FCS powerhouses.

(07-06-2023 10:34 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I don't think any existing school is going to be in too much trouble this is obviously an attempt to keep another FCS grab by conferences hurt by realignment. CUSA is now basically one more big shift to not existing if it goes down like it did last time. It is to the point where FCS schools with mediocre or no relevance are getting picked up not like App, GS, Marshall etc which were FCS powerhouses.

The FCS schools that CUSA grab were perennial conference winning playoff teams that had higher budgets then App, GS, Marshall when they moved up. The teams that CUSA got were top 10 FCS teams year in and year out over the past 5 years. App, GS, Marshall were national title winning teams, however, the 5 years prior to their move up they were just like what KSU, JSU, SHSU were. Top 10 perennial conference winning playoff teams not winning national championships. The FCS is not the same as it was in the 80's and 90's. Due to most of the mid major schools moving to the FBS in the southeast, it is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to recruit players to beat NDSU or SDSU. The players that southeast teams need to beat NDSU are going to FBS schools. This is why teams in the southeast are not winning national titles and GS and App could not win a national titles in the later years of the FCS.

(07-07-2023 03:27 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 10:34 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I don't think any existing school is going to be in too much trouble this is obviously an attempt to keep another FCS grab by conferences hurt by realignment. CUSA is now basically one more big shift to not existing if it goes down like it did last time. It is to the point where FCS schools with mediocre or no relevance are getting picked up not like App, GS, Marshall etc which were FCS powerhouses.

The FCS schools that CUSA grab were perennial conference winning playoff teams that had higher budgets then App, GS, Marshall when they moved up. The teams that CUSA got were top 10 FCS teams year in and year out over the past 5 years. App, GS, Marshall were national title winning teams, however, the 5 years prior to their move up they were just like what KSU, JSU, SHSU were. Top 10 perennial conference winning playoff teams not winning national championships. The FCS is not the same as it was in the 80's and 90's. Due to most of the mid major schools moving to the FBS in the southeast, it is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to recruit players to beat NDSU or SDSU. The players that southeast teams need to beat NDSU are going to FBS schools. This is why teams in the southeast are not winning national titles and GS and App could not win a national titles in the later years of the FCS.

The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

(07-07-2023 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 03:27 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 10:34 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I don't think any existing school is going to be in too much trouble this is obviously an attempt to keep another FCS grab by conferences hurt by realignment. CUSA is now basically one more big shift to not existing if it goes down like it did last time. It is to the point where FCS schools with mediocre or no relevance are getting picked up not like App, GS, Marshall etc which were FCS powerhouses.

The FCS schools that CUSA grab were perennial conference winning playoff teams that had higher budgets then App, GS, Marshall when they moved up. The teams that CUSA got were top 10 FCS teams year in and year out over the past 5 years. App, GS, Marshall were national title winning teams, however, the 5 years prior to their move up they were just like what KSU, JSU, SHSU were. Top 10 perennial conference winning playoff teams not winning national championships. The FCS is not the same as it was in the 80's and 90's. Due to most of the mid major schools moving to the FBS in the southeast, it is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to recruit players to beat NDSU or SDSU. The players that southeast teams need to beat NDSU are going to FBS schools. This is why teams in the southeast are not winning national titles and GS and App could not win a national titles in the later years of the FCS.

The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

Jones, I hope you are employed. If you are please do your job and go away. As always love ya.

(07-07-2023 07:25 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 03:27 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 10:34 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I don't think any existing school is going to be in too much trouble this is obviously an attempt to keep another FCS grab by conferences hurt by realignment. CUSA is now basically one more big shift to not existing if it goes down like it did last time. It is to the point where FCS schools with mediocre or no relevance are getting picked up not like App, GS, Marshall etc which were FCS powerhouses.

The FCS schools that CUSA grab were perennial conference winning playoff teams that had higher budgets then App, GS, Marshall when they moved up. The teams that CUSA got were top 10 FCS teams year in and year out over the past 5 years. App, GS, Marshall were national title winning teams, however, the 5 years prior to their move up they were just like what KSU, JSU, SHSU were. Top 10 perennial conference winning playoff teams not winning national championships. The FCS is not the same as it was in the 80's and 90's. Due to most of the mid major schools moving to the FBS in the southeast, it is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to recruit players to beat NDSU or SDSU. The players that southeast teams need to beat NDSU are going to FBS schools. This is why teams in the southeast are not winning national titles and GS and App could not win a national titles in the later years of the FCS.

The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

No you said we were just like you 5 years prior. SBC East Members Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, and James Madison all had playoff runs that extended 10 and even 20 years before we joined FBS.

FCS National Titles by SBC members = 14
FCS National Titles by CUSA = 2

Check the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ampionship

(07-07-2023 08:57 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:25 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 03:27 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 10:34 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I don't think any existing school is going to be in too much trouble this is obviously an attempt to keep another FCS grab by conferences hurt by realignment. CUSA is now basically one more big shift to not existing if it goes down like it did last time. It is to the point where FCS schools with mediocre or no relevance are getting picked up not like App, GS, Marshall etc which were FCS powerhouses.

The FCS schools that CUSA grab were perennial conference winning playoff teams that had higher budgets then App, GS, Marshall when they moved up. The teams that CUSA got were top 10 FCS teams year in and year out over the past 5 years. App, GS, Marshall were national title winning teams, however, the 5 years prior to their move up they were just like what KSU, JSU, SHSU were. Top 10 perennial conference winning playoff teams not winning national championships. The FCS is not the same as it was in the 80's and 90's. Due to most of the mid major schools moving to the FBS in the southeast, it is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to recruit players to beat NDSU or SDSU. The players that southeast teams need to beat NDSU are going to FBS schools. This is why teams in the southeast are not winning national titles and GS and App could not win a national titles in the later years of the FCS.

The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

No you said we were just like you 5 years prior. SBC East Members Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, and James Madison all had playoff runs that extended 10 and even 20 years before we joined FBS.

FCS National Titles by SBC members = 14
FCS National Titles by CUSA = 2

Check the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ampionship

??? What are you talking about. That is not my point. My point is that it is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

App St and GS did not win FCS chips 5 years before they left the FCS due to the facts I stated. It is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to win a Natty in the current time period due the the reasons I stated.

The last App St title was in 2007. They moved to FBS in 2013. 6 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS
The last GS title was in 2000. They moved to FBS in 2013. 13 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS

Both of these schools had playoff runs just like KSU, SHSU, JSU but they was unable to win a natty after 2007 and 2000 because of the reasons I stated. That is the reason why they moved up. It is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

(07-07-2023 08:26 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  Jones, I hope you are employed. If you are please do your job and go away. As always love ya.

Bro can you just STOP. I can post were I want and when I want to post as long as it is not offensive just like you. It is a sports board. Go somewhere.

(07-07-2023 09:09 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 08:57 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:25 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 03:27 AM)jones682 Wrote:  The FCS schools that CUSA grab were perennial conference winning playoff teams that had higher budgets then App, GS, Marshall when they moved up. The teams that CUSA got were top 10 FCS teams year in and year out over the past 5 years. App, GS, Marshall were national title winning teams, however, the 5 years prior to their move up they were just like what KSU, JSU, SHSU were. Top 10 perennial conference winning playoff teams not winning national championships. The FCS is not the same as it was in the 80's and 90's. Due to most of the mid major schools moving to the FBS in the southeast, it is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to recruit players to beat NDSU or SDSU. The players that southeast teams need to beat NDSU are going to FBS schools. This is why teams in the southeast are not winning national titles and GS and App could not win a national titles in the later years of the FCS.

The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

No you said we were just like you 5 years prior. SBC East Members Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, and James Madison all had playoff runs that extended 10 and even 20 years before we joined FBS.

FCS National Titles by SBC members = 14
FCS National Titles by CUSA = 2

Check the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ampionship

??? What are you talking about. That is not my point. My point is that it is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

App St and GS did not win FCS chips 5 years before they left the FCS due to the facts I stated. It is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to win a Natty in the current time period due the the reasons I stated.

The last App St title was in 2007. They moved to FBS in 2013. 6 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS
The last GS title was in 2000. They moved to FBS in 2013. 13 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS

Both of these schools had playoff runs just like KSU, SHSU, JSU but they was unable to win a natty after 2007 and 2000 because of the reasons I stated. That is the reason why they moved up. It is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

That's all your opinion that you're stating as fact regarding competition. I'm posting facts and statistics, you are posting an opinion of your own as an excuse as to why you and your fellow call ups aren't competitive. And you saying KSU, SHSU and JSU had "playoff runs"? LOL! Only SHSU can boast of that out of you 3.

(07-07-2023 09:26 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 09:09 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 08:57 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:25 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

No you said we were just like you 5 years prior. SBC East Members Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, and James Madison all had playoff runs that extended 10 and even 20 years before we joined FBS.

FCS National Titles by SBC members = 14
FCS National Titles by CUSA = 2

Check the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ampionship

??? What are you talking about. That is not my point. My point is that it is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

App St and GS did not win FCS chips 5 years before they left the FCS due to the facts I stated. It is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to win a Natty in the current time period due the the reasons I stated.

The last App St title was in 2007. They moved to FBS in 2013. 6 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS
The last GS title was in 2000. They moved to FBS in 2013. 13 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS

Both of these schools had playoff runs just like KSU, SHSU, JSU but they was unable to win a natty after 2007 and 2000 because of the reasons I stated. That is the reason why they moved up. It is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

That's all your opinion that you're stating as fact regarding competition. I'm posting facts and statistics, you are posting an opinion of your own as an excuse as to why you and your fellow call ups aren't competitive. And you saying KSU, SHSU and JSU had "playoff runs"? LOL! Only SHSU can boast of that out of you 3.

Gotta take it easy on em brother, he's just trying to feel relevant lol CUSA is done, has been done. Most college football fans have no idea where Kennesaw is or frankly any of the rest of the call ups, they might get lucky and guess Houston for SHSU. Makes for a good laugh. All I can say is I love the SB and glad we are not part of that mess of CUFCSA.

(07-07-2023 09:26 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 09:09 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 08:57 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:25 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  The bolded...
That's called inflation.

That is a complete lie. Check your facts.

You're not winning National Titles because you're not as good. Plain and simple.

This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

No you said we were just like you 5 years prior. SBC East Members Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, and James Madison all had playoff runs that extended 10 and even 20 years before we joined FBS.

FCS National Titles by SBC members = 14
FCS National Titles by CUSA = 2

Check the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ampionship

??? What are you talking about. That is not my point. My point is that it is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

App St and GS did not win FCS chips 5 years before they left the FCS due to the facts I stated. It is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to win a Natty in the current time period due the the reasons I stated.

The last App St title was in 2007. They moved to FBS in 2013. 6 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS
The last GS title was in 2000. They moved to FBS in 2013. 13 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS

Both of these schools had playoff runs just like KSU, SHSU, JSU but they was unable to win a natty after 2007 and 2000 because of the reasons I stated. That is the reason why they moved up. It is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

That's all your opinion that you're stating as fact regarding competition. I'm posting facts and statistics, you are posting an opinion of your own as an excuse as to why you and your fellow call ups aren't competitive. And you saying KSU, SHSU and JSU had "playoff runs"? LOL! Only SHSU can boast of that out of you 3.

KSU has been ranked in the top 10, 6 out of the 8 years they had a program and had 4 FCS playoff runs and 3 conference titles within 6 years. They have a 70 and 28 all time recored. What the hell are you talking about. Those are facts.

What is in bold are also facts again what are you talking about.

(07-07-2023 09:35 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 09:26 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 09:09 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 08:57 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 07:25 AM)jones682 Wrote:  This is incorrect

First of all if you factor inflation, their budgets would still be higher. Inflation would increases budget at the most by 2 million.

Second, again things has changed. Again GS and App was not winning national titles the later years of the FCS due to what I have said. A kid will go to a FBS mid major before a FCS mid major and since most mid majors in the southeast are FBS now vs 20+ years ago when GS and App were winning national titles most of the the mid majors were FCS or AA.

No you said we were just like you 5 years prior. SBC East Members Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, and James Madison all had playoff runs that extended 10 and even 20 years before we joined FBS.

FCS National Titles by SBC members = 14
FCS National Titles by CUSA = 2

Check the facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ampionship

??? What are you talking about. That is not my point. My point is that it is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

App St and GS did not win FCS chips 5 years before they left the FCS due to the facts I stated. It is hard for a FCS team in the southeast to win a Natty in the current time period due the the reasons I stated.

The last App St title was in 2007. They moved to FBS in 2013. 6 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS
The last GS title was in 2000. They moved to FBS in 2013. 13 years they were unable to win a title because of the shift in power of the FCS

Both of these schools had playoff runs just like KSU, SHSU, JSU but they was unable to win a natty after 2007 and 2000 because of the reasons I stated. That is the reason why they moved up. It is hard to win FCS titles in the southeast at the current time period.

That's all your opinion that you're stating as fact regarding competition. I'm posting facts and statistics, you are posting an opinion of your own as an excuse as to why you and your fellow call ups aren't competitive. And you saying KSU, SHSU and JSU had "playoff runs"? LOL! Only SHSU can boast of that out of you 3.

Gotta take it easy on em brother, he's just trying to feel relevant lol CUSA is done, has been done. Most college football fans have no idea where Kennesaw is or frankly any of the rest of the call ups, they might get lucky and guess Houston for SHSU. Makes for a good laugh. All I can say is I love the SB and glad we are not part of that mess of CUFCSA.

Yeah they have a Napoleon Complex.

Want to discuss facts?

The ONLY reason Kennesaw, Jacksonville, Coastal, etc turned in to playoff FCS programs is because the best FCS programs had already moved up.

It’s much easier to be a “playoff team” when Marshall, Troy, App, Ga So, ULM, etc have all moved up to FBS.

(07-07-2023 09:10 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 08:26 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  Jones, I hope you are employed. If you are please do your job and go away. As always love ya.

Bro can you just STOP. I can post were I want and when I want to post as long as it is not offensive just like you. It is a sports board. Go somewhere.

Nah...I got a team in this conf. You are just a pain trying to justify your team with a tiny stadium should be FBS. You just annoy people. Post on CUSA. I am sure they appreciate it. As always love ya.

(07-07-2023 11:14 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Want to discuss facts?

The ONLY reason Kennesaw, Jacksonville, Coastal, etc turned in to playoff FCS programs is because the best FCS programs had already moved up.

It’s much easier to be a “playoff team” when Marshall, Troy, App, Ga So, ULM, etc have all moved up to FBS.

Yeah, dude’s kinda talking in circles on that one. If the FCS talent/competition level in the South has fallen so much, making the playoffs just kinda makes you the tallest midget.