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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 08:26 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (07-03-2023 09:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: There is a case for legacy admissions. A large part of the university experience is developing relationships. By admitting legacies over decades, the Ivies have ensured that many of the people that you want to know are on their campuses. I would argue that the main--if not only--value of an Ivy education is the relationship building. And the legacies certainly enhance that.
But not 70%. That's way too high.
I had read the information below before. Anyway this is from Google Bard....
"According to a 2014 survey of Harvard freshmen, the average SAT score for legacy applicants admitted to Harvard was 2296, compared to a 2237 average for non-legacy students. The average ACT score for legacy applicants admitted to Harvard was 33, compared to a 32 average for non-legacy students.
It is important to note that these numbers are averages, and there is a range of scores within each group. However, the numbers do show that legacy applicants tend to have slightly higher test scores than non-legacy applicants.
There are a few possible explanations for this difference in test scores. One possibility is that legacy applicants have more access to resources that can help them prepare for standardized tests, such as tutoring and test prep courses. Another possibility is that legacy applicants are more likely to come from families with a strong academic tradition, which can give them an advantage in the admissions process.
It is also worth noting that legacy status is just one factor that Harvard considers when making admissions decisions. Other factors, such as grades, extracurricular activities, and personal essays, are also important.
Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to admit a legacy applicant is a complex one that takes into account a variety of factors."
Inheritable IQ.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 08:42 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (07-03-2023 08:56 AM)Unionman76 Wrote: (06-29-2023 10:09 PM)BlueDragon Wrote: (06-29-2023 05:50 PM)Unionman76 Wrote: can your father make a big donation to get you in a school
not based on merit
SEE HUNTER BIDEN
on one of the sunday news shows,
they said 70% of yale and harvard admissions are legacy
that is what is keeping qualified students out of the school
all should be merit based, not money, old money or legacy
I don't think that's right. I've read that 30% of Harvard's admissions or legacy and of that 30% 70% are white. Maybe that's where the 70% came from.
Here's the quoted information in the complaint against Harvard showing the above percentages (28% legacy 70% of those white)
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quic...ons-policy
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 08:51 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (07-05-2023 08:42 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: (07-03-2023 08:56 AM)Unionman76 Wrote: (06-29-2023 10:09 PM)BlueDragon Wrote: (06-29-2023 05:50 PM)Unionman76 Wrote: can your father make a big donation to get you in a school
not based on merit
SEE HUNTER BIDEN
on one of the sunday news shows,
they said 70% of yale and harvard admissions are legacy
that is what is keeping qualified students out of the school
all should be merit based, not money, old money or legacy
I don't think that's right. I've read that 30% of Harvard's admissions or legacy and of that 30% 70% are white. Maybe that's where the 70% came from.
Here's the quoted information in the complaint against Harvard showing the above percentages (28% legacy 70% of those white)
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quic...ons-policy
Wgaf
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
The
Reeeeeeeeeee
Continues
It
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
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If white people would like to have a greater presence in the NBA, then they are going to have to work at their jump shots.
If black people would like to have a greater presence at Harvard, then we are going to have to work at our academics.
This is not hard.
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Imagine if the NBA declined Lebron James because there were “too many black people in the NBA” and they wanted racial diversity—so they instead allowed Ed Sheeran onto the Lakers in his place.
That is exactly what Asian-Americans have been enduring for decades at Harvard.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
Affirmative action has never been more than a band-aid to cover a real problem--the lack of opportunity in poor and minority communities because of poor education and bad welfare programs foisted upon them by the left.
"Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
And the f-king republicans have sat idly by and let them get away with it for 50 years.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(06-30-2023 12:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote: One workaround for schools?
Applications from various zip codes get preference
Just spit-ballin
I agree with the ruling as the policies are unfair to some groups over other groups
The University of Virginia must take students from around the state. The effect is students from northern Virginia have a more challenging time being admitted to the school.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 09:21 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Affirmative action has never been more than a band-aid to cover a real problem--the lack of opportunity in poor and minority communities because of poor education and bad welfare programs foisted upon them by the left.
"Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
And the f-king republicans have sat idly by and let them get away with it for 50 years.
Democrats did it, republicans allowed it, libertarians whined about it
Here we are. Finally a Republican fixed it.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 09:35 AM)chess Wrote: (06-30-2023 12:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote: One workaround for schools?
Applications from various zip codes get preference
Just spit-ballin
I agree with the ruling as the policies are unfair to some groups over other groups
The University of Virginia must take students from around the state. The effect is students from northern Virginia have a more challenging time being admitted to the school.
Why? More apply from nova?
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 09:49 AM)shere khan Wrote: (07-05-2023 09:21 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Affirmative action has never been more than a band-aid to cover a real problem--the lack of opportunity in poor and minority communities because of poor education and bad welfare programs foisted upon them by the left.
"Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
And the f-king republicans have sat idly by and let them get away with it for 50 years.
Democrats did it, republicans allowed it, libertarians whined about it
Here we are. Finally a Republican fixed it.
Which part of
Affirmative action has never been more than a band-aid to cover a real problem--the lack of opportunity in poor and minority communities because of poor education and bad welfare programs foisted upon them by the left.
did this ruling fix?
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 09:21 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Affirmative action has never been more than a band-aid to cover a real problem--the lack of opportunity in poor and minority communities because of poor education and bad welfare programs foisted upon them by the left.
"Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you'll keep 'em voting democrat."
And the f-king republicans have sat idly by and let them get away with it for 50 years.
Absolutely correct.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 09:49 AM)shere khan Wrote: Democrats did it, republicans allowed it, libertarians whined about it
Here we are. Finally a Republican fixed it.
Judges aren't supposed to be political. If they are then they should be removed from their position. They should follow the constitution and nothing else.
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RE: Affirmative Action in higher education struck down by SCOTUS
(07-05-2023 10:02 AM)shere khan Wrote: (07-05-2023 09:35 AM)chess Wrote: (06-30-2023 12:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote: One workaround for schools?
Applications from various zip codes get preference
Just spit-ballin
I agree with the ruling as the policies are unfair to some groups over other groups
The University of Virginia must take students from around the state. The effect is students from northern Virginia have a more challenging time being admitted to the school.
Why? More apply from nova?
This piqued my interest as I have rising HS senior that is interested in several VA schools, with UVA being one of them.
Virginia College Acceptance Rates
It's the most current data I could find and breaks done application/acceptance data for several VA schools. Fairfax Co alone had over 7k UVA applicants.
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