There’s lots of smoke around Tulane and Rice getting invites to the PAC 12. What’s the plan when all of that shakes out?

(05-02-2023 12:18 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There’s lots of smoke around Tulane and Rice getting invites to the PAC 12. What’s the plan when all of that shakes out?

I have not smelled any smoke.

(05-02-2023 12:21 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 12:18 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There’s lots of smoke around Tulane and Rice getting invites to the PAC 12. What’s the plan when all of that shakes out?

I have not smelled any smoke.

Yeah I've seen nothing of this. Tulane has had one good season in 20 year, and Rice arguably wasn't even a good AAC call-up. Where are you seeing this?

(05-02-2023 12:21 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 12:18 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There’s lots of smoke around Tulane and Rice getting invites to the PAC 12. What’s the plan when all of that shakes out?

I have not smelled any smoke.

its been on my feed a little, that sdsu and smu are the favorites... rice, tulane and unlv are the next group if they decide they want 4

(05-02-2023 12:18 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There’s lots of smoke around Tulane and Rice getting invites to the PAC 12. What’s the plan when all of that shakes out?

You believe the DavidST of Twitter?

(05-02-2023 12:48 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 12:18 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There’s lots of smoke around Tulane and Rice getting invites to the PAC 12. What’s the plan when all of that shakes out?

You believe the DavidST of Twitter?

I’m just saying

This rumor is coming from the something called the "Monty Show". He's one of many YouTube guys who have sports shows. I have no idea how accurate he is but doubt that there is much to this rumor.

If by chance he is correct, I would have to imagine that SDSU and one other (SMU or another from the MWC) would also be joining.

Again, I seriously doubt that this guy knows ____ from apple butter. I don't give much credence to this rumor.

There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m seeing

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m hearing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

Count me as a Disbeliever. I just do not believe anyone knows anything at this time.

SMU+SDSU+Tulane+UNLV would be pretty sick.

SMU/SDSU are sure to keep investing and making athletics a priority.

Tulane with New Orleans and UNLV with Las Vegas are very likable brands for fans and TV. Plus UNLV with 25k undergrad is no slouch. Would Tulane/SMU academic pedigree be enough to offset the UNLV stink for the PAC? We'll have to see.

This guy is click bait nonsense.

I'd think the PAC would focus on ascertaining that they even have a viable conference and media partner before anything else.

Aresco went to 14 to hedge against losing 2-4 more so there would be 10-12 left in AAC if there are more leavers.

Actually Rice makes sense too. AAU in a major Market. Travel is in and out. You can schedule Olympics games around Tulane, Houston and Rice.

Yes Houston is not in the pac12, but pac12 schools currently play Houston in many Olympic sports.

Rice and Tulane are pac12 bound in my opinion.

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

how will the Big 12 lose 3 programs to the ACC?

1. the Big 12 currently pays more than the ACC and that is prior to the new Big 12 TV deal

yes there is a chance the ACCn will add some dollars to the ACC payout, but it will have to be significant

and the ACC still has 2.75 more mouths to feed which means that new CFB playoff money will get split by more mouths than the Big 12 and that money will be significant

2. the Big 12 has a new GOR in place until the end of their new TV deal

3. even if you are trying to say the Big 12 will lose 3 teams after the end of their new TV deal and new GOR the Big 12 still has an exit fee in place for 88 more years under the terms of general contract membership that is equal to the prior two years of distributions......so the ACC will need a way to pay out enough money to cover a $100+ million exit fee for each of those 3 members to make that happen in many years from now

and that seems highly unlikely if the ACC is losing their top 6 members to other conferences

that prediction makes zero sense based on all reality

(05-02-2023 10:29 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

how will the Big 12 lose 3 programs to the ACC?

1. the Big 12 currently pays more than the ACC and that is prior to the new Big 12 TV deal

yes there is a chance the ACCn will add some dollars to the ACC payout, but it will have to be significant

and the ACC still has 2.75 more mouths to feed which means that new CFB playoff money will get split by more mouths than the Big 12 and that money will be significant

2. the Big 12 has a new GOR in place until the end of their new TV deal

3. even if you are trying to say the Big 12 will lose 3 teams after the end of their new TV deal and new GOR the Big 12 still has an exit fee in place for 88 more years under the terms of general contract membership that is equal to the prior two years of distributions......so the ACC will need a way to pay out enough money to cover a $100+ million exit fee for each of those 3 members to make that happen in many years from now

and that seems highly unlikely if the ACC is losing their top 6 members to other conferences

that prediction makes zero sense based on all reality

Actually the CFP payout will be per school not lump sum as they do currently.

Texas and Oklahoma set a ceiling of 50 million per school, for exiting. That 1 years worth of conference revenue. Not insurmountable.

There has been talk and rumor from a few places that Tulane would be the 3rd team added after smu & sdsu. But that won’t happen unless one of the four corner team departs.

(05-02-2023 11:23 PM)Acres Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 10:29 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

how will the Big 12 lose 3 programs to the ACC?

1. the Big 12 currently pays more than the ACC and that is prior to the new Big 12 TV deal

yes there is a chance the ACCn will add some dollars to the ACC payout, but it will have to be significant

and the ACC still has 2.75 more mouths to feed which means that new CFB playoff money will get split by more mouths than the Big 12 and that money will be significant

2. the Big 12 has a new GOR in place until the end of their new TV deal

3. even if you are trying to say the Big 12 will lose 3 teams after the end of their new TV deal and new GOR the Big 12 still has an exit fee in place for 88 more years under the terms of general contract membership that is equal to the prior two years of distributions......so the ACC will need a way to pay out enough money to cover a $100+ million exit fee for each of those 3 members to make that happen in many years from now

and that seems highly unlikely if the ACC is losing their top 6 members to other conferences

that prediction makes zero sense based on all reality

Actually the CFP payout will be per school not lump sum as they do currently.

Texas and Oklahoma set a ceiling of 50 million per school, for exiting. That 1 years worth of conference revenue. Not insurmountable.

where is it stated the playoff payout will be per schools vs per conference

and Texas and OU paid a lot more than that when all factors were considered and that does not mean it will happen again.....and you still leave out the fact that the ACC would be losing 6 schools what would make the remaining ones more attractive to 3 Big 12 members than the Big 12.....and the fact that the Big 12 still currently pays more even with the older deal and they have a new deal coming

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

Bruh, how "attractive" is Tulane to the B12 when they just raided the AAC and didn't take them?

(05-03-2023 07:45 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

Bruh, how "attractive" is Tulane to the B12 when they just raided the AAC and didn't take them?

They have one good football season and all the sudden think they are the top dog. Tulane has like 10 schools in front of it and that is being kind.

(05-03-2023 08:16 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 07:45 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(05-02-2023 02:20 PM)pablowow Wrote:  There’s smoke.. for sure..

Tulane is attractive to all three PAC, BIG 12, ACC…

Tulane is next in line with

Memphis
USF
UCONN
SMU
SDSU

From what I’m seeing

ACC will lose up 6
BIG 12 will lose maybe 3(to ACC)
PAC will lose up 4

All will go to SEC or BIG

All three conferences will refill with above 6 schools first…

What I’m hearing and seeing

Bruh, how "attractive" is Tulane to the B12 when they just raided the AAC and didn't take them?

They have one good football season and all the sudden think they are the top dog. Tulane has like 10 schools in front of it and that is being kind.

that might not be the case for the PAC 12 that is still consistently showing they want their athletics to somehow represent academics (worthy goal, but long since out of the gate now)

with the comments a lot of the administrations have made about the Big 12 recently really only Rice, Tulane, and Colorado State come close to meeting their criteria

SDSU is a very good school, but the inability to offer doctoral degrees and the massive reduction in research dollars and academic standing that comes with that hurts them, but I imagine the PAC 12 might over look that.....but really if they over look that for them then SJSU and Fresno are just as good of options with the exception of the (failed) idea of "markets" for Fresno and SJSU being in the same "market" as Stanford

at this point with all the things the admins of some PAC 12 schools have said even if Oregon and UW leave (I am not certain this happens or anytime soon) they still might have to go after "academic" replacements first and worry about athletics second or take yet another PR kick in the face