It's a crime just to go to Temple.

I'm going to guess that this is one of those things that's hard to compare because reporting standards very from place to place.

clt says crime at temple should be down with bill cosby in jail

Governor Desantis gave us constitutional carry. So our number will be coming down.

After thinking about it a bit - I imagine that the safety of students on campus should be measured against the crime in the surrounding area - with comparisons for major crime being of most interest. If the crime rates for major crime on a campus is
better than the immediate surrounding area - then it would seem that the Universities are doing something right.

For example - it was just reported today, that a Memphis student was slashed in the face by a guy that ambushed him by convincing whoever was in charge of a dorm to let him into the victim's dorm room. If that is factual then this represents a major failure on the part of the university.

I go back to the thread and commentary about the UCF campus police and wonder if there has ever been a conference/gathering of of campus security officials to share what works best secure a campus. Probably not rocket science but might be a solid step forward.

(04-26-2023 07:44 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  After thinking about it a bit - I imagine that the safety of students on campus should be measured against the crime in the surrounding area - with comparisons for major crime being of most interest. If the crime rates for major crime on a campus is
better than the immediate surrounding area - then it would seem that the Universities are doing something right.

For example - it was just reported today, that a Memphis student was slashed in the face by a guy that ambushed him by convincing whoever was in charge of a dorm to let him into the victim's dorm room. If that is factual then this represents a major failure on the part of the university.

I go back to the thread and commentary about the UCF campus police and wonder if there has ever been a conference/gathering of of campus security officials to share what works best secure a campus. Probably not rocket science but might be a solid step forward.

clt recommends a wall around the memphis campus. you can have the taxpayers cover the cost

(04-25-2023 09:31 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  [i][i]Is very curious Temple, in N. Phila, the largest and most urban campus in the conf wasn't represented. I wonder why they'd choose not to give out their numbers?
The reason I wonder is....they just deep sixed their president and a MAJOR reason was crime on and near campus.
It is a hot topic up here. Too hot for the prez...who got voted out.
I would like to know Temple's stats on this.[/i][/i]

Soft on crime DA Krasner doesn't help, but I can't speak to crime on Temple's campus.

40smokingcannon recollects crime at ECU for the six years he was there was mostly tinkling in the bushes offenses..........

All of the crime around Rice is white-collar. Even the on-campus crimes probably involved shell companies in the Cayman Islands.

(04-28-2023 12:13 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  40smokingcannon recollects crime at ECU for the six years he was there was mostly tinkling in the bushes offenses..........

clt says 6 years? congrats on beating the eCu average!

(04-28-2023 03:59 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(04-28-2023 12:13 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  40smokingcannon recollects crime at ECU for the six years he was there was mostly tinkling in the bushes offenses..........

clt says 6 years? congrats on beating the eCu average!

What can I say, I'm above average.

















Ask your wife.

#P6

(04-28-2023 12:13 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  40smokingcannon recollects crime at ECU for the six years he was there was mostly tinkling in the bushes offenses..........

If there’s a bustle in your hedge row
Don’t be alarmed now
It’s just a sprinkling of the May Queen.

(04-24-2023 09:58 AM)49ShadesOfGreen Wrote:  On campus is pretty safe at Charlotte but off campus has some issues for sure. Lots of the off campus student housing attracts people who should not be mixed in with students. Definitley some drug/gang activity around campus.

You have hit the nail on the head. With the Charlotte area's rapid growth, older, lower cost housing gets torn down and new, expensive housing gets built in its place. Yay for gentrification! The people that get displaced look for cheap places to live, and unfortunately that is also what students want, so they move near campus. The University has a program called "Niner Choice" that sets standards which make off-campus housing safer, and properties that comply make the list. Unfortunately, not all landlords have embraced it and they end up with undesirables living there--and there is no proof that these folks are from Sun Belt schools. I know fixing this is a high priority, but it will not be easy.

(04-28-2023 01:32 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  All of the crime around Rice is white-collar. Even the on-campus crimes probably involved shell companies in the Cayman Islands.

Ha!

(04-26-2023 08:09 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Yeah Temple is really bad. I’d find it hard to believe anywhere is worse than Temple, especially in major crimes.

Within the property borders of Temple, it is very safe. The crime explodes once you get 3 blocks from campus. Many student apartments in that area now.

(04-29-2023 04:06 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 09:58 AM)49ShadesOfGreen Wrote:  On campus is pretty safe at Charlotte but off campus has some issues for sure. Lots of the off campus student housing attracts people who should not be mixed in with students. Definitley some drug/gang activity around campus.

You have hit the nail on the head. With the Charlotte area's rapid growth, older, lower cost housing gets torn down and new, expensive housing gets built in its place. Yay for gentrification! The people that get displaced look for cheap places to live, and unfortunately that is also what students want, so they move near campus. The University has a program called "Niner Choice" that sets standards which make off-campus housing safer, and properties that comply make the list. Unfortunately, not all landlords have embraced it and they end up with undesirables living there--and there is no proof that these folks are from Sun Belt schools. I know fixing this is a high priority, but it will not be easy.

clt says the light rail is leading to more higher end housing near campus. the lower priced spots are heading towards concord

(04-26-2023 08:10 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(04-26-2023 07:44 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  After thinking about it a bit - I imagine that the safety of students on campus should be measured against the crime in the surrounding area - with comparisons for major crime being of most interest. If the crime rates for major crime on a campus is
better than the immediate surrounding area - then it would seem that the Universities are doing something right.

For example - it was just reported today, that a Memphis student was slashed in the face by a guy that ambushed him by convincing whoever was in charge of a dorm to let him into the victim's dorm room. If that is factual then this represents a major failure on the part of the university.

I go back to the thread and commentary about the UCF campus police and wonder if there has ever been a conference/gathering of of campus security officials to share what works best secure a campus. Probably not rocket science but might be a solid step forward.

clt recommends a wall around the memphis campus. you can have the taxpayers cover the cost

Ha, that’s actually what they do in Colombia. First time I went to Colombia, I thought they had a ton of prisons but most of them were schools. They have brick walls lined with barbed wire around all schools, along with gates guarded by armed security, to protect kids from possible abductions.

(05-01-2023 02:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-26-2023 08:10 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(04-26-2023 07:44 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  After thinking about it a bit - I imagine that the safety of students on campus should be measured against the crime in the surrounding area - with comparisons for major crime being of most interest. If the crime rates for major crime on a campus is
better than the immediate surrounding area - then it would seem that the Universities are doing something right.

For example - it was just reported today, that a Memphis student was slashed in the face by a guy that ambushed him by convincing whoever was in charge of a dorm to let him into the victim's dorm room. If that is factual then this represents a major failure on the part of the university.

I go back to the thread and commentary about the UCF campus police and wonder if there has ever been a conference/gathering of of campus security officials to share what works best secure a campus. Probably not rocket science but might be a solid step forward.

clt recommends a wall around the memphis campus. you can have the taxpayers cover the cost

Ha, that’s actually what they do in Colombia. First time I went to Colombia, I thought they had a ton of prisons but most of them were schools. They have brick walls lined with barbed wire around all schools, along with gates guarded by armed security, to protect kids from possible abductions.

clt says it is sad what has happened to south carolina

(04-28-2023 03:59 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(04-28-2023 12:13 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  40smokingcannon recollects crime at ECU for the six years he was there was mostly tinkling in the bushes offenses..........

clt says 6 years? congrats on beating the eCu average!

(05-01-2023 11:00 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(05-01-2023 02:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(04-26-2023 08:10 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(04-26-2023 07:44 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  After thinking about it a bit - I imagine that the safety of students on campus should be measured against the crime in the surrounding area - with comparisons for major crime being of most interest. If the crime rates for major crime on a campus is
better than the immediate surrounding area - then it would seem that the Universities are doing something right.

For example - it was just reported today, that a Memphis student was slashed in the face by a guy that ambushed him by convincing whoever was in charge of a dorm to let him into the victim's dorm room. If that is factual then this represents a major failure on the part of the university.

I go back to the thread and commentary about the UCF campus police and wonder if there has ever been a conference/gathering of of campus security officials to share what works best secure a campus. Probably not rocket science but might be a solid step forward.

clt recommends a wall around the memphis campus. you can have the taxpayers cover the cost

Ha, that’s actually what they do in Colombia. First time I went to Colombia, I thought they had a ton of prisons but most of them were schools. They have brick walls lined with barbed wire around all schools, along with gates guarded by armed security, to protect kids from possible abductions.

clt says it is sad what has happened to south carolina

At first, loki thought he was talking about the Ivy League school in NYC.

(04-22-2023 07:24 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  There was a thread recently on how tough the UCF campus police are and it got me curious about safety on the AAC campuses. The most recent data I could find was from 2019.

Crime per 1000 Students:

1). USF 3.07

By far the safest AAC campus

2) Memphis 6.90

Had no idea our campus was this secure.

3) FAU 7.75

4) UTSA 10.06

5) RICE 10.85

6) UAB 11.19

7) North Texas 11.85

8) Charlotte 18.67

9) ECU 22.27

10) SMU 27.23

11) Tulsa 29.46

Could not find data for either Temple or Navy and didn't bother with the guys who are leaving - except, I did check out UCF and they had a low score around 7+ - as I remember it. The campus crime data I found may be updated somewhere or other and if your campus has better crime per 1000 students at this time please note that.

The data for Charlotte, ECU, SMU and Tulsa is a bit scary and may be skewed higher for some unknown reason. For example, Tulsa is a small school with a total enrollment of less than 5,000 while SMU only has a total enrollment of 12,000 or so - so it might not take much to push their crime numbers higher.

As for ECU and Charlotte my goodness - they both have a total enrollment of around 29-30K so something else is at work there.

For 2021, ECU had 14.13 per 1000 (396 incidents) of "Liquor law violations" and another 5.14 per 1000 (144 incidents) of "Drug abuse violations" for a total of 19.27 per 1000 out of the total (21.84 in 2021).

So apparently a lot of happy, relaxed students.

https://ope.ed.gov/campussafety/#/